Vista: Complete

AcePlayer, I had to much coffee tonight

I agree with every thing you said and with 2GB it uses even more resources

I saw a movie from cnet.com about vista rtm. all of the stuff they showed are just enhancements. nothing new. most of the programs and stuff are already being done by some third party software. the newest thing i saw was a new game that is bundled with vista.

This, in contrast to the leopard preview, is a bit lame. Imagine 5 years, 5 billion in RND and 2000 of the worlds brightest and highly paid developers just to do this? Its true what Steve Jobs said, and it something like "even with all that money you still can't make it better". Something like that.

Wait for Vista guys. I'm sure it'll be cool for the first time, but I'll wait a little longer till hackers break through its security. Just like what happened to Windows XP service pack 1.

Try installing Windows XP service pack 1, boot it up, plug and internet connection and wait 1 minute you'll get hacked by spywares just by using IE alone.

For the average user to buy a new machine for windows vista just for the sake of games this will be good enough. But i'd rather get the cool ps3 to play games on rather than having headaches trying to fix windows vista.

Goodluck guys. I'm sticking with the osx.

what also sucks about vista's release is that M$ will be trying their best to force everybody to the new os, they would bring out things only for vista; like dx10, now game developers have an issue on their hands they now have to choose between next gen graphics or sales and because of microsofts push behind vista they forget about anything that ever happened before it (windows XP) and now they say that sp3 wont be out until 2008 or something. it also doesnt help people when mircosoft charges and arm and a leg for you to get the upgrade to vita for the new features (to have vista ultimate and the top of the range office 2007 it would cost you AU$1700) and plus if your pc cant handle vista you can slap on another 2 grand. if Microsoft wants to fight piracy seriously then they should drop prices of their products because the people who know how much the os is really worth are the ones who would pirate the thing

if Microsoft wants to fight piracy seriously then they should drop prices of their products because the people who know how much the os is really worth are the ones who would pirate the thing

I'm sure almost all of us could say the same about Apple here.

well how much will vista cost?

bout 400 for the ultimate and 199 for home i think

home basic is the {censored} version that doesnt include aqua aero iirc. its like xp home, except designed to suck. they want you to buy the premium or ultimate or whatever and make home basic just for the bare essentials (which linux could do 10 times better even for a beginner). it should be one version fits all, but NOOOOOOOO, microsoft doesnt want to.

btw, my old pc has a 256 mb vid card, 2.8ghzp4 w/HT, but a measly 512 ram which will most likely be upgraded.

I know this is a bit off topic but what is Aero and Aqua?

Is it the OS themes?

joe75, I thought it might be coffee but then though coffee isn't strong enough.

Good that Vista is complete. Once they release it, they can't "copy" features from Mac OS X Leopard that are still kept secret.

I know this is a bit off topic but what is Aero and Aqua?

Is it the OS themes?

 

 

those names are themes of it .

but there are difference betwen them.tho im not so interested to go on further.

 

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My office got a Vista RC in today at work with Office 2007 beta. Oh my God. I was thinking I would hate Vista, now I love it. I don't understand, I thought I would hate it. I see alot of OSX copying, but Aero is gorgeous and I have to say, better looking than Aqua. *shakes head* Didn't think I would post this, but don't count me a MS fanboy and OSX out. I love OSX, but Vista is something else.

My office got a Vista RC in today at work with Office 2007 beta. Oh my God. I was thinking I would hate Vista, now I love it. I don't understand, I thought I would hate it. I see alot of OSX copying, but Aero is gorgeous and I have to say, better looking than Aqua. *shakes head* Didn't think I would post this, but don't count me a MS fanboy and OSX out. I love OSX, but Vista is something else.

Well, I had 5477 installed about 2 weeks back - it didn't have that much of on impact on me. Sure - it does look pretty nice, but I don't think it compares to OS X just yet...

However, each to his own opinion.

One thing I do like is the way you can select which window you want in the Expose thingy. The way it looks 3D is pretty cool...

However - don't judge Vista until Leopard is out. Then we can really see what Apple has in stock.

Well we here at work are all impressed. The features it has, even though rip offs, are very nice. It is interesting to see Vista and actually have all these neat features, even if it took them 5 years. We just tested {censored} to run, and alot doesn't run so I am now coming back down off the high (I am a geek and it was a high to run a new OS and such). After messing with it for a couple hours straight, testing and such, Vista is what XP should have been. It is a great OS, at least on the surface. I am sure problems will arrise, but I am going to run it home for a while, till I get a mac mini. OSX is still superior, but I will give Microsoft this ,they did put in a lot of work. Though after this new high stops for people, even me, I am wondering if the evilness of bugs and short comings of Vista will rear it's ugly head. We ran it on a Xeon processor, 2 gig ram, and 256 meg graphics card. The whole OS is running is 1 gig ram, that is f***ing ridiculous! So I am still shocked and pleased with it, but I will run it at home for a while and see how that goes.....

the ram usage is coming from superfetch. if you would run it on a system with less ram, you'd see that it would use less. vista is using your ram to cache data/applications thatt you use a lot so that it will take less time to access it. right now on a system with 512 mb of ram, i'm using about 300 mb (my mini, and that's with aero). if you would go to use a program that is going to take up more ram, the system should release it from the superfetch cache.

you're using rc, which wasn't really a good build, i'm using 5840, which is a major improvement. with the debugging code gone, i can't wait to see how much it speeds up.

I wouldn't say Vista is what XP should of been

It could be that I'm more use to XP, but I do think XP is more efficient for getting work done.

I hate all the extra steps Vista wants from users.

I have found that 5840 is much better and a little less demanding on ram, but still needs some work.

It will take awhile for me to give up XP

Going to put it on my system at home and then try to break it for a while. I will be entertained with Vista but still long for my Mac and OSX.

btw, my old pc has a 256 mb vid card, 2.8ghzp4 w/HT, but a measly 512 ram which will most likely be upgraded.

So? what's the problem?

no time bomb? meaning it doesn't run out in july or something? I hope our school at least upgrades the student computers to XP. Let's see the student comps are win 98 pieces of {censored}. Teachers just got XP this year. Last year we got Gayway laptops that have XP on them from a technology grant. Seriously i would have used the grant on desktops (off topic srry)

I'd rather waste my money on Leopard. And take the other $170 bucks and spend it on other gadgets.

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vista might be nice but mac 10.5 is going to be way ahead of vista. i think vista is nice but they are just trying to get it out of the door now and just have a nice beta test with every sucker that buys it.

I'm runnign Vista RTM right now and to all of you with are running 512, good luck to you. Right now all i have is IE 7 running and pc-cillin in the background running and I am using 955mb of ram which is rediculous. Can't really find the benefits here over xp, maybe the search function(spotlight copy), which i neer use, slower on games, annoying with security screen freezes when you want to install a program. In all honesty, it looks cool and has a few new cool uselss options (it did get all my drivers installed automatically), and eats away at all your ram. so right now it just feels like a better looking and sounding XP that like to eat half your ram for breakfast. they really need to fix the ram problem.