Leopard leaks... again.

Apple is really falling hard to piracy. They need to do something fast. In the past week, we've seen people circumvent the 10.4.8 kernel's protection and manage to get ATi drivers to work perfectly using the minimum means. People are getting very good and hacking every aspect of OS X, and now they're doing it faster and cleaner than ever before.

Not that I don't like this all, but I wouldn't want Apple to go out of business either.

On their open source resources site, they did little more than post a warning message to deter people. Even Semthex was expecting some more drastic.

Osx86 is happening just like CPUs are. They keep getting faster every year and osx86 experts are able to crack faster and faster as they learn.

Yeah, but I think Takuro is absolutly right. Getting Apple out of business can't be a goal for people who likes OSX. The more people don't pay for this great software, the more won't buy an Apple.

Remains me on the Amiga system and their problem with massive copying...

So what does this build have over the last one?

I don't get some ADC members, why leak?

I'm currently looking at Leopard from a security point of view and if anyone thinks that running Beta code is fun, then they have a nasty suprise. ITS A DEVELOPER RELEASE, if you can't f**king code/debug/understand whats in there from a low-level, stick with Tiger.

Unless these people are actively finding bugs, it's a waste of bandwidth. Just wait for the real thing, you won't be dissapointed, I promise

This may be off topic but most people who come to OSX are new or don't even know about OSX86.

ajb01, you're right. But anyways, this would never lead to the closing of Apple. Considering what they make more money off of than anything (the iPod) is not the product being stolen, why worry? It is unfortunate on their side but they will start wising up shortly, or atleast they should.

It's easy for the people like us, who hang out on tech sites and know our way around torrents, usenet and so on, to forget that the vast majority of computer users are hardly aware of pirated software, wouldn't know where to get it, and would be scared stiff to use it on their machines. While software leaks and piracy may seem to be a big issue (and the companies always paint it as such) they're not in any danger of going out of business while the innocent public keep on doing the honest thing and paying for what they use.

Actually, I think that the OSx86 community is driving MORE people to buying a Mac, not less. It's been shown here, over and over, that people who are experimenting on their PC's are wanting to buy an actual Mac, once they see how smooth of an OS it is. Heck, the community is HELPING 2 different people (JaS & Semthex) to buy Macs right now! And the Mac that JaS ordered isn't exactly a cheap one, either. I'm about 2 -3 months away from buying a Mac myself, so that I'll be able to enjoy running the real Leopard when it comes out. There will most likely always be some amount of apps (or hardware) that won't run on on a Hackintosh like they would on a real Mac, and people who either want to run those apps, or just plain appreciate what Apple is doing, from an OS and app perspective, will continue to be motivated to buy one, especially as overall prices for Macs on Intel hardware continue to inch downward.

edit: But Steve, we WOULD like to see them do more than "inch" downward (hint, hint)

Cheers!

Actually, I think that the OSx86 community is driving MORE people to buying a Mac, not less ...

You're right, and a lot of people here have real Macs and have bought them since discovering OSX on a beige box. Check out the enthusiastic threads at the time the Intel MacBooks came out.

It's a bit like the cars you run when you're young and short of cash - you don't mind working on them and you put up with the frustrations - it's fun and good experience. After a while you want something that just works, so you buy the Mercedes or whatever that you've always tried to pretend your old banger could be. I'm not knocking OSX on a beige box, it's great for all sorts of things, but at the end of the day, well, it isn't a Mac.

I am a application developer come application security professional and software instability and security are incompatible.

Umm...

What? Please try to find a better 'x-language to english' translator, or we won't be able to understand you at all, but welcome to the boards!

Umm...

 

What? Please try to find a better 'x-language to english' translator, or we won't be able to understand you at all, but welcome to the boards!

I was responding to comments here about people going through all kings of stupid hoops to get OS-X to work on hardware it was never intended for. Kind of like taking a Honda Civic replacing the engine, chassis, drive train, seats and spending thousands of dollars etc all in in attempt to get it to perform like a Ferrari. At the end of the day it's still just a Civic.

And for your information I have been speaking English ( not American ) for over 3 decades.

Don't forget an important reason people are switching to Mac's.... Microsoft. Until 3 months ago I never thought I would own an Apple product (including iPod). My son bought Apple stock and showed me a Mac Mini and Parallels. I now have a Mac Mini and an iMac.

A friend of mine came down for a visit. I showed him the iMac and how everything he does in Windows can be done on an iMac (with a little help from Parallels). He can do it without running anti-virus programs, spyware programs, and firewalls (his router has a firewall). He now owns 2 iMacs (his and hers).

To those of us who suffer under Microsoft, we will gladly spend money to support a company like Apple. We can see Apple will make changes to reflect the needs of it's customer base unlike Microsoft who demands you change to suit them.

I see a big future for Apple. It will change the face of computing and force other companies to rethink their domination.

thats true we are spreading or squirting the macs over all our friends and family we hack but we are also great PR guys for mac and apple.

Apple is really falling hard to piracy. They need to do something fast. In the past week, we've seen people circumvent the 10.4.8 kernel's protection and manage to get ATi drivers to work perfectly using the minimum means. People are getting very good and hacking every aspect of OS X, and now they're doing it faster and cleaner than ever before.

 

Not that I don't like this all, but I wouldn't want Apple to go out of business either.

 

On their open source resources site, they did little more than post a warning message to deter people. Even Semthex was expecting some more drastic.

where there is a will there is a way. if some one wants it and they wont give it to them or release it so its available there will always be hackers and reverse engeneering geniuses like Semthex helping out the masses of people who are not good enough coders (aka allmost everyone... ) so pirating will never be killed, it can only be quelled and/or slowed. and apple is falling, i agree, but as everything else, security through obscurity with the ppc architecture, no one could run it on a pc because they were different archatectures