iAnnoyance Winner: "Stoplight"

Great jobs guys and congratulations. I can't wait to give it a try. Thanks a ton.

Finally - instant full screen in Safari (my preference for web browsing).

Awesomeness! It' a great utility. Well done!

Wow. This is cool. A great new way to make cool utilities. Everybody happy in the end I have to congratulate the idea and the programmers. Well done!

Thanks for running the contest! Even though I kind of like the default behaviors, I think it's valuable to re-examine assumptions like those from time to time, and 'mechanisms'(or, as I like to say, 'hacks') like these are excellent for that purpose.

So, thanks again. Andy and I will be glad to give the next iAnnoyance a shot, too. (:

I'd also like to thank JonZ14 of this forum for our icon and Ian Henderson( http://ianhenderson.org ), another of the Pixen coders, for some of the framework code we used in writing our SIMBL hack. Thanks!

Awesome!

I had just about finished my SIMBL plugin that accomplished the tasks, but had not yet even started on the pref pane. It took a while of spinning my wheels to realize that SIMBL was the way to go. I think im gonna continue work on my own version, if only because i have at least a bit of time invested in it already. Congrats to the winners...i guess ill just have to work faster next time...

Welcome, Joe. I like the default behaviors too for most apps, but I've already enjoyed tweaking a few apps.

Thanks for your great work (I've emailed Andy with the details).

Thanks again for running the contest. It was a lot of fun! Maybe I'll make a proper installer for it sometime, but for now I'll just enjoy the victory. I hope Stoplight is useful!

wow...upon looking through the soure code, i can see that i was definatly on the right track with my own attempt. I also had started with the megazoomer plugin and was using its method swizzling to get the close behavior working. I was having a lot more trouble with the zoom though. It boosts my confidence that I can hopefully help the community in the next challenge.

Speaking of the next challenge, how about next weekend Mash? i wont have such st00pid distractions as work and the girlfriend next weekend (okay, the GF isnt st00pid, but still very much a distraction)

oh well, i guess ill go to sleep now....damn...those 3 red bulls i bought earlier are gonna go to waste! or maybe ill take the time to work on CPUThrottler

Any bugs you find can be listed here:

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...view=getnewpost

For example, I just discovered that closing a tab in Camino quits the app.

Hay, I kinda agree with some on leaving the default behavior, what I had in mind is something like, if I press ctrl and I press the red close button, it terminate the application otherwise it behave as default.

Great work, Thanks for everybody!!!

We've made it onto ars technica, and they're bashing us..horribly..

http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2006/9/2/5185

Great app guys!!

Wow AT really didnt like it!! lol - their loss. I cant say why you wouldnt like to customize something on OSX to your preference.

I love it, I love it, I love it!

Glad to see that other ppl hated the (inconsistent) behaviour of them buttons too!

You can't believe how thankful i am. Stupid "apple+q" see you in hell :-)

I agree with them. I have absolutely no use for this, as my windows behave exactly as they are supposed to. When I close a BBEdit window the app stays open because I'm likely about to open another one. I hate that GarageBand was quiting just because I closed one window to go open another one, but thankfully now I get a popup window asking if I want to open another window or quit. Quitting without my consent was the annoyance.

I don't use Maximize much. I just resize on the fly.

For the people who are bashing this contest, none of them seem to realize that having an option is better than none at all. They may like the current way Mac OS X handles windows, but HEY you don't have to install it.

Some people on that site make me puke. Come to the party or stay at home. Ether you like or not, is your prerogative. Being little b!tches about it and not contributing is plain pathetic.

Wow he told me he was gonna be done by tonight so i guess he finished early. I can't wait to try it out.

P.S. Don't forget that the icon was made by jonz14

I'm also willing to create icons for any of the other apps, just pm me.

It's not worth reading the whole Ars Technica comment thread, but I'd like to point out that they're arguing with themselves more than with the competition.

Also, as the most vocal detractor of this program in the original thread, I'd just like to say that I'm impressed at how quickly it got done, and I'm downloading it now to check it out. Congratulations, Andy and Joe. And nice icon, jonz14.

Edit: and it's pretty awesome. I'm not using it on close buttons for reasons I mentioned in the other thread, but this zoom functionality is wicked. Two issues, though:

1. The zoom button doesn't quite zoom full-screen on my MacBook. It gets everything except a few pixels on the left. Is this on purpose?

2. I was happy to see that pushing the zoom button again returns the window to its original size. However, it puts it in the middle of the screen even if that was not its original location.

Again, good job.

Excellent work on this! I forgot to add Preview to my list of apps that should quit when all windows are closed but don't, but now that's solved. For some reason, Activity Monitor doesn't quit when I configure it to, but this is still great!

Well, we have our "Dingbat of the Week" award from ars also:

$500? Anyone with enough talent to do this will feel like there are far more lucrative ways to fill their time.

 

Like release it themselves and charge for it.

I take it they don't know how hard it is to make $500 marketing a piece of shareware.

and here's the quote needed for version 2:

How about someone fix only being able to resize a window on one corner.

I do have to say that I thought long and hard about my response to this contest and the application. I find myself split between the two battling camps. Those are:

1. Those who find the entire idea of the “iAnnoyance” competition wrong and pointlessl; and,
   
2. Those who agree with every aspect of this competition.
   

Personally, I am somewhere in between. I think it’s a great idea to offer a bounty to address aspects of the OS that really ought to have been addressed already. (I can already hear everyone shouting to FTFF, for instance.) But I have a few points I’d like to make.

Regarding “Stoplight”: I feel the “Red means ‘Stop’, Green means ‘Go’” challenge to be unnecessary. As has been pointed out, this challenge has been commented on over at Ars Technica, and most of the comments aren’t particularly nice. Unfortunately, I must say I agree with most of the comments and posters at Ars, and here’s why:

1. The nature of the Close button of OS X windows is supposed to be different based upon the type of application. For document–based applications, the Close button is supposed to close the window, but leave the application running; this is to be the case even when the last window of a running application is closed. Likewise, for single–window applications, closing the window should quit the application, unless it continues to process information and run in the background (i.e., iTunes or Transmission).

   Closing Windows
    
   Users can close windows by:

   • Choosing Close from the File menu
     
   • Pressing Command-W
     
   • Clicking the close button
     

   When a user closes a document window, your application should:

   • Decide what to do with unsaved data (see “Dialogs for Saving, Closing, and Quitting”)
     
   • Store the window’s onscreen position and size (so they can be used when the window is reopened)
     

   In most cases, applications that are not document-based should quit when the main window is closed. For Example, System Preferences quits if the user closes the window. If an application continues to perform some function when the main window is closed, however, it may be appropriate to leave it running when the main window is closed. For example, iTunes continues to play when the user closes the main window.

   Source:

   OS X HIG: Chapter 17, Windows; Section 4, Window Behavior

   [*]A utility to allow the user to modify standard OS behaviors may be useful in some situations, but to modify behaviors that are abiding by the established HIG of an OS should not be seen as something justifying an entry into this competition. The target of this should have been to address those applications which do not conform to Apple’s HIG. (A particular example would be Apple’s own Address Book application: It barely meets their own require for brushed metal windows, but is also a single–window application. Once the application window is closed, the application continues to run in the background—this is contrary to the HIG for single–window applications.) By modifying the action of the Close button of both document–based applications and single–window applications, this particular “iAnnoyance” is contrary to Apple’s HIG, and creates an even more confusing computing environment.

   To address the green Zoom button of the window, I feel that this contest has inappropriately branded it as a maximize button, when this is not the case. Again, the HIG are quite explicit as to the nature of the Zoom button:

   Resizing and Zooming Windows

    

   Your application determines the minimum and maximum window size. Base these sizes on the resolution of the display and on the constraints of your interface. For document windows, try to show as much of the content as possible, or a reasonable unit, such as a page.

    

   Your application also sets the values for the initial size and position of a window, called the standard state. Don’t assume that the standard state should be as large as possible; some monitors are much larger than the useful size for a window. Choose a standard state that is best suited for working on the type of document your application creates and that shows as much of the document’s contents as possible.

    

   The user can’t change the standard size and location of a window, but your application can change the standard state when appropriate. For example, a word processor might define the standard size and location as wide enough to display a document whose width is specified in the Page Setup dialog.

    

   The user changes a window’s size by dragging the size control (in the lower-right corner). As a user drags, the amount of visible content in the window changes. The upper-left corner of the window remains in the same place. The actual window contents are displayed at all times.

    

   If the user changes a window’s size or location by at least 7 pixels, the new size and location is the user state. The user can toggle between the standard state and the user state by clicking the zoom button. When the user clicks the zoom button of a window in the user state, your application should first determine the appropriate size of the standard state. Move the window as little as possible to make it the standard size, and keep the entire window on the screen. The zoom button should not cause the window to fill the entire screen unless that was the last state the user set.

    

   When a user with more than one monitor zooms a window, the standard state should be on the monitor containing the largest portion of the window, not necessarily the monitor with the menu bar. This means that if the user moves a window between monitors, the window’s position in the standard state could be on different monitors at different times. The standard state for any window must always be fully contained on a single monitor.

    

   When zooming a window, make sure it doesn’t overlap with the Dock. For more information about the Dock, see “The Dock”.

   Source:

   Op. cit.

   As you can see, the Zoom button is not intended to maximize the window, but rather switch between the application’s predetermined ‘standard state’ and the modified ‘user state’. Many applications do not adhere to this standard (such as the aforementioned iTunes), but individual applications’ inability to follow established standards should not be seen as a problem with the OS itself. If we want consistency, we need to ask the developers of these applications to follow the HIG, and not create our own hacks for filling in the gaps. Most developers accept feedback, and when an application’s behavior is contrary to established guidelines it ought to be viewed as a bug, unless explicitly deemed appropriate to act contrary.

    

   The other part of my gripe comes from the way in which Stoplight works. Stoplight is a ‘plug–in’ for SIMBL, which acts as an input manager. I believe John Gruber (of Daring Fireball fame) put it best when he said:

   The supported purpose for input managers is to allow developers to define new ways for users to enter text. However, the code in an input manager can pretty much do what it wants to inside an application’s address space, and so thus, input managers have turned into an unofficial channel for hacking system and application behavior. E.g., most of the hacks euphemistically described as “plug-ins” on Jon Hicks’s Pimp My Safari web site — such as Saft and PithHelmet — are input manager hacks. “Plug-ins” implies the use of a legitimate API intended for extending or modifying an application; Safari, unfortunately, has no plug-in API, so any developer wishing to extend or modify Safari must resort to unsupported mechanisms such as input managers.

    

   As stated before, every installed input manager loads into (nearly) every application. Input managers that are targeting one specific application, such as the way Saft and PithHelmet patch Safari or the way Smart Crash Reports patches Crash Reporter, typically perform some identifier checking so as only to deliver their actual payload inside the application they’re targeting. But, no bones about it, the nature of input managers is such that they’re loaded into every app on your system. …

   Source:

   Smart Crash Reports

   Although Gruber was referring to Unsanity’s Smart Crash Reporter, the same holds true for any hack that uses an Input Manager interface—in this case, SIMBL. Loading this hack into the system, and making the address space of every running application available to Stoplight is, I believe, foolish and an unsafe practice. Having the source code to Stoplight available will hopefully ensure that it does not become an unstable application or otherwise affect the system in unintended ways, but it does not guarantee it.

    

   I know this was a bit long, however I feel that these points need to be addressed, and people made aware. If one is going to offer a bounty for fixing perceived problems with the OS, let’s first ensure that there really is a problem to be fixed. In this case, modifying the Close and Zoom behavior of windows is not something that needs to be addressed on a system–wide level, but rather on an application–based level. And even then, they should be filed as a bug with the developer and not attempted to be remedied with third–party, ill–conceived hacks.

    

   (Normally I would not have even commented, but I felt that this was a topic that ought to be addressed, especially considering the amount of attention that it has garnered. Everyone has their own opinion—and is rightfully entitled to it—and I am in no way attempting to tell people their opinions are wrong. However, I am making it known that I do not believe that this perceived “iAnnoyance” is something that needs to be addressed, and the manner in which is was addressed could have been better handled as well. Perhaps future entrants in this competition will be a better fit; I just feel that as the inaugural entry, “Red means ‘Stop’, Green means ‘Go’” was ill–thought out.)

My machine is my machine, and no one else's, and I want to use it and have it work just the way that I like. I don't want to have to be a slave to any "official" guidline. This little competition and the resulting application give me options for configuring my machine to my tastes. This is a good thing, and it does no harm to anyone else.

To be fair, there's no way to make Stoplight work (at least, as far as I know) without injecting code into every process.

But besides that, I think Patrick's right on every point. As Joe and I were making Stoplight, we were talking through how to fix the zoom behavior: "So... right now, how does zoom work?" "It sizes to content, which is the right behavior, really: no wasted space." "So what are we doing?" "We're making it use the wrong behavior: fill the screen regardless of wasted space." But if it's what you want, I guess there's really no reason to let arguments on usability stop you because it's just how you want it to behave.

I do kind of think there's some merit to the "hide if last window" functionality simply because it's inconsistent and startling sometimes when closing the last window closes the app (like in iCal, etc)... but I wouldn't use it myself.

Edit: Also, Joe's coming back over a bit later today; we're going to squash some bugs and maybe make an installer.

This is a fantastic program! Thanks!.

So there is bashing because its not to "Mac OS X", many developers dont follow HIG and this useful app fixes the problems I have.

Its always an option and those who like the classic mac os x dont have to use it.. but still suffer at those programs which dont follow HIG, which i must say are quite alot out there.

I've used Mac for quite a long time, since the OS 7. But my user experience with this nifty little app is certainly improved compared with the old 'x' box. I find the whole idea of iAnnoyances fantastic.

Thanks everyone!

P.S It makes it better then having a yellow and red button that do pretty much the same thing (on some apps).