WaxTrax! Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I have a gut feeling that Apple wants OSX on non-Apple hardware they just don't want to have to deal with Microsoft. I don't know if I would go that far, but I don't believe that Apple is vain enough to believe that their OS can't be cracked. I don't think they're going to make a huge fuss over white-box macs, but at the same time I don't believe that they will ever release OSX for non-macs because they don't want to have the trouble of trying to support every piece of hardware under the sun the way Microsoft does with Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzez1986 Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Great job Maxxuss. But, how to use this patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Damn. I have SSE3 and PAE, but no NX/XD. It seems like eveytime I get a new cpu Intel comes out with some new instruction set right afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreno Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Glorious Maxxus! You are great! Are you also working on nVidia kext to get the video driver working? Or is this now supported in 10.4.4? Anyway, great work! I think Apple might be sort rooting on us in the background. Can you imagine, they start slowly getting market share from Microsoft by people like us installing it on our machines? They then release 10.5 with all the great bells and whistles and make it really impossible for us to upgrade to. It will force some of us to actually buy the Mac OS which by that time should have taken a big chunk from Microsoft. Sort of like when the CIA fed crack to the ghettos in the 70's It's not the first time Steve Jobs does something like this. I believe he recently did this with the iPod g5 where he said it supports video but didn't give us an easy way to put the video in it. There is talk now of a Video iPod in the works. They were waiting to see how a video supporting iPod would first be accepted before going all out. I bet the guy (Steve) uses the hacker community (like our friends Maxxus and MacVidia), as well as the PC savvy folks like us, as guinny pigs before making a major release. I can easily see a Universal Mac OS X, installable on all PCs within 2 years. Could Apple be waiting until after everybody adopts and upgrades to EFI enabled PCs before releasing that Mac OS? Just a thought people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm2001XP Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 also the little comment about Apple’s best attempts to secureing their OS on their Hardware, Are we sure they just didn't want this to happen, I mean they even added that little "Please don't Steal" message. They knew it was going to happen. I have a gut feeling that Apple wants OSX on non-Apple hardware they just don't want to have to deal with Microsoft. I don't think so. It's very interesting that many people who don't even know how to build a kext think that it would be easy to crack a whole OS. If you have ever read some of the posts from our developers like in the 10.4.4 Progress threat on win2osx you should know that in comparison to 10.4.4 cracking 10.4.3 has been a joke. For example this Version (10.4.4) uses encrypted binaries, LaGrange and not to forget EFI to name a few things. I honor Maxxus for his incredible work once more. He is a real genius in what he's doing. I also want to mention the hard work of others like Pianoman and his companions who were also working on a solution to get 10.4.4 running (and hopefully are still on it). I'm sure Apple does, in their opinion, the best to protect their OS. They proberly know that might be cracked once more, but rethink what would have happend if we didn't have such great fellows like JaS, Maxxus, Pianoman, wesley to name a few (they are much more but to name some). Everybody is doing a great job and will hopefully, if Apple doesn't shut us done this time, continue to do so. Just a few thoughts of mine. (Sorry for my english ) Manfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyris ng Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I went to a local PC shop in town and saw one of Maxxus' work being sold pre-installed. Way to go Maxxus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 WOW! i knew this would happen sooner or later. Great job maxxus!!!!! you are the man. JaS, wesley we know you are out there, can you help us please to do a patcher using this files, we know that you guys are the right people for the job. you guys are geniuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menno Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Can this be injected in the current 10.4.4 iso or do I have to install 10.4.3 and then run the replace script? By the way. Great work Maxxuss really appriciated . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillesv Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Great work Maxxus!!! Can someone post a complete install instruction to patch the 10.4.3 install? Thanks in advance, Jilles The Netherlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooly Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 maxxuss the gr8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speech Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 well done maxxuss. Just some little questions : - will all screen resolutions be available (like 1280x800 with ATI 9600 cards) ? - will intel centrino acpi work (maybe) and ipw2200b/g too (i don't think so) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer75 Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Will we need the patch if our CPU already supports SSE3? If we do apply the patch would be lose SSE3 functionality? Does it require an EFI motherboard? Is this a VMware only install? I'd like to do a native install straight from the disc onto it's own hard drive. Does 10.4.4 comes with Nvidia drivers? If I can run at 1600x1200 and play WoW i'm switching to OSX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm2001XP Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 First if you have a question to a threat READ IT! The first post mentions this threat 10.4.4 Technical discussion Will we need the patch if our CPU already supports SSE3? If we do apply the patch would be lose SSE3 functionality? You won't lose SSE3. It is necassary to run 10.4.4 and use all it's features. Does it require an EFI motherboard? No, you only need an working 10.4.3 platform Is this a VMware only install? I'd like to do a native install straight from the disc onto it's own hard drive. Native install only through 10.4.3. VMware won't work. Does 10.4.4 comes with Nvidia drivers? If I can run at 1600x1200 and play WoW i'm switching to OSX. It has got nvidia drivers but they will not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipersfate Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Will we need the patch if our CPU already supports SSE3? If we do apply the patch would be lose SSE3 functionality? Does it require an EFI motherboard? Is this a VMware only install? I'd like to do a native install straight from the disc onto it's own hard drive. Does 10.4.4 comes with Nvidia drivers? If I can run at 1600x1200 and play WoW i'm switching to OSX. I doubt they have all of that information already available, wasn't it just done extremely recent? Give them some time. Patience will get us what we want eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomovich Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I don't think Apple has put all her efforts in this. I think that the next OS release 10.5 will be the one that is "unhackable". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phineas J. Whoopie Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I am looking at the patch contents, and have read Maxxuss's notes. It appears that if you have SSE3, PAE, NX, then you only need to replace the mach_kernel with the Maxxuss' provided one. The replace.sh script will only replace files if you have an SSE2 CPU. In the past, some oah files had to be replaced, but it doesn't look like this is necessary if you have SSE3. Did I read this correctly? Phineas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexaltair2 Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Good work Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digital_boy Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I've just got back home and whaoooooo!!! Good news!!! The 10.4.4 patch is ready! Great Maxxuss you are a Genius! You deserve a Gold medal! Ok now I have a question after converting OS X x86 10.4.4 restore.dmg to a .ISO and apply this patch, I have to burn to a DL DVD wish is not a problem for me but can I burn it and install Natively or do I need to wait a boot loader patch also? I have all requirement needed I just need to know if we can boot that OS X x86 10.4.4 restore.iso after all before waste a DL media Thanks very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enb14 Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I am looking at the patch contents, and have read Maxxuss's notes. It appears that if you have SSE3, PAE, NX, then you only need to replace the mach_kernel with the Maxxuss' provided one. The replace.sh script will only replace files if you have an SSE2 CPU. In the past, some oah files had to be replaced, but it doesn't look like this is necessary if you have SSE3. Did I read this correctly? Phineas This is from maxxuss website The archive contains: * A modified mach_kernel system file (can boot under SSE2; required for VMWare), * A AppleSMBIOS kernel extension replacement (only required for VMWare), * Most importantly, the decrypted system files along with an installation shell script. So have you tried the replace.sh file and told you that you don't need the SSE2 files? Weird maxxuss website says that the decrypted system files are the most important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 Sorry for the slow server everyone. We can handle being dugg, we can handle a slashdotting, but when they collide (along with regular traffic a few other links), things get slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisco_Kid Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I don't think Apple has put all her efforts in this. I think that the next OS release 10.5 will be the one that is "unhackable". You must be the most naive person on Earth. Saying 10.5 will be "unhackable" is like stating the Earth is flat. If something can be done, there is a way to undo it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreno Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Hey Maxxuss, please oh please go for the big prize now and figure out how to dual boot the new MacBook Pro I hope you're working on it so you can claim all of that money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyboy Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Yes Maxxuss you would deserve every cent of that prize money and more so much more ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipian Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Does this work on older P4's without NX? Or rather without the 4 Gigs of ram needed to enable it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defylogik Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 nice too bad i just sold my x86 box. intel macs still arent ready for primetime, at least in a production environment. ill stick with my ibook and dualcore powermac for now untill adobe gets their heads outa their azzes and releases a universal binary. awesome work tho maxxus. i think people are still more concerned about dual booting a intel mac, as you just cannot beat mac hardware design and usability.. especially having everything just work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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