legendariske_harehjort Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Hi, I havent got a feel for CPU's. All I can read is the specs, and that does not tell me a lot,... Is there an overview somewhere? (besides the HCL) or can someone recommend a good one? Good to me means that is likely to support 10.5 and future version, and runs cool to keep noise down. (btw looking at 775) Thank you, walther Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hurt Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Ask community members. A intel core 2 is probably the best for OS X. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-515918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendariske_harehjort Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 So any processor with the name Conroe? And they run the coolest too? Thank you, walther Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-515928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 If you're not going to overclock at all, stocking cooling is alright for you. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-515930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendariske_harehjort Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 Thank you for the quick replies,... No I was not planning on overclocking, unless it it needed to get a mac with a decent speed? I would really like for people to post benchmarks when they list their equipment, I have absolutely no idea what a Core 2 Duo E4400 is like in mac terms ? thx, walther Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-515939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Well, not really. Unless you're getting the single core Conroe based celeron, or the dual core e210 1.6 ghz model, there's no need to overclock at all. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-515950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendariske_harehjort Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 Thank you, Would you dare estimate what a processor like E6320 would be like, compared to the current line of macs? (any comparison of any processor to any mac would be a great help ) Thx again, walther Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-515960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 I don't know where you're from, but here in the states, they run about $180 and up. Which, is a decent price. But, you can go with the allendale series(Which is a conroe with lower fsb) at $129.99 running 2.2 ghz per core, but you'd have 800 mhz fsb though. Which is pretty decent. The thing with comparing these processors to Macs processors, it's hard to because all the macs besides the Mac Pro use notebook cpus. And the Mac Pro uses a 2 beefed up conroes. So, if you run stock on the E6320, you'd have 2 cores running at 2.4 ghz versus the mac pro where there are 4 available cores running at 2 ghz base each. Single core applications, I think would do better, but for plain out multitasking the Mac Pro will get you there. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115015 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115031 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-515966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikonnut Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Just a quick note. The E6320 is a C2D 1.86 GHz Conroe. The E6600 is the 2.4 GHz model. I have a E6320 somewhere (I upgraded to a E6700, talk about diminishing returns) and it was a great processor. I can attest to its performance and cool running. As for a Mac Pro comparison, check out this site for a real world test. http://retouchartists.com/pages/results.html Now, I can't attest to the PCs listed since too many variables are left out but look at my system below. My best time for on the speedtest was 36.97s. The fastest Mac Pro clocks in at 23s with the same RAM but faster HDDs and 4 cores ( and the attendant 2x4MB of L2 cache). Hope this helps Asus P5LD2-VM R2.0 Intel C2D E6700 o/c to 3.0GHz 4GB DDR2 PC-5300 Kingston value RAM eVGA 7950 GT 256MB PCI-e GPU 2x500 GB Hitachi Deskstar 7200HDD Pioneer DVR-212D BK (SATA) 10.4.11 thanks to NetKas and all the others involved in the PC EFI bootloader Best of Luck, Nik Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-516016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurael Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Why did you replace an E6320 with an E6700 only to clock it up to 3GHz? My E6320 is stable at 3.5GHz+ if I increase voltage (though it only goes up to 450x7 prime-stable on stock voltage, which is my daily clock) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-516034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikonnut Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Azurael, My MoBo isn't an overclocking wonder(The BIOS options suck, I can't O/C the Processor w/o upping the FSB). For me to get a E6320 to 3.5 GHz I'd have to have the FSB at 2 GHz (I forget but isn't the E6320 locked at 7x? That means 3500/7=500*4=2000 MHz on the FSB) which leads to the following problems; 1) Don't want to push the FSB that hard. 2) At any setting over 305 (1220 FSB) Orthos fails. So, thats where I'm at. Santa is bringing a new MoBo (What are you running?) plus some faster memory that I hope will let me O/C my system like it should. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-516190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendariske_harehjort Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 Thanks again for all the feedback,... I'm a lot closer now to gettin an idea of speed. What I really wanted to know was what kind of machine matched the mac line, so that you in a blind test could not tell which machine you were running on. For instance where would a machine like this: Asrock ConRoe945G-DVI + E6750 + 2GB ram Roughly fit in this lineup: MacMini 1.8GHz iMac 2.4GHz MacPro 2x2.66GHz Thank you, (Btw, my MacMini 1.25GHz scores 38.86 on XBench) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-516291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wipeout Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 All the Macs run on the Core line of chip. I wouldn't recommend an AMD, runs slower than a snail on my rig. Maybe that's just me. Any ideas? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-516301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal swimmer Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html that rates every current cpu, in a variety of tests. btw, that site is amazing for nearly everything related to building a computer (including monthly gfx card ratings for each price category) anything with core 2 in the name is good. We bother with an exact match when you can go much faster for cheap? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-516476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Tomshardware isn't the most accurate site anymore, but those charts should give you an idea of what performs and how. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-516557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal swimmer Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Tomshardware isn't the most accurate site anymore, but those charts should give you an idea of what performs and how. really? In what way? .... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-516628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurael Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 So, thats where I'm at. Santa is bringing a new MoBo (What are you running?) plus some faster memory that I hope will let me O/C my system like it should. Gigabyte P35C-DS3R - cheap, but seems to clock nicely, even with quads - looking forward to getting a Q9450 in January I had it running at the same daily clock on my previous 3 boards, a Gigabyte 965P-DQ6 and before that a 965P-DS3 and before that an Abit FP-IN9 (worst motherboard ever!), although it wouldn't have gone past 500MHz FSB on any of those boards, and it does on this one Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-516854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 really? In what way? .... Toms hardware has had bad(unreasonable, wrong scores) benchmarks lately, which sucks because Tomshardware is one of the only sites that has the whole cpu, and gpu comparison chart. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/72959-cpus-do-not-know-where-to-start/#findComment-517056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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