amdprophet Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Sorta funny how Intel just happened to announce it now that the first quantum computer has been made. I've actually known about the 80 core processor for a few months, my teacher saw it a while back. Me thinks Intel, IBM, and AMD are all a little bit worried about the quantum computer, especially since it can run 64,000 processes at one time rather than running processes sequentially. If anyone is interested, my teacher got permission to check out the quantum computer in march (the company who made it is 10 minutes from my school), I can probably get you some pictures other than the ones on slashdot along with some more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takuro Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 The average Joe isn't exactly computing the number of possible planets in Proxima Centauri using thousands of petabytes of data. The quantum computer is basically only for research facilities. AMD and Intel don't have anything to worry about as far as losing market share in their main consumer base goes. That's not to say they don't feel pressure though. They do. But from eachother. It's a processor "arms race" basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soündless Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 damn, i was hoping my mbp would be future proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 So first the Mhz race, now the core race... Does Intel never learn? It's tricky enough to make progams that fully use 4 cores, let alone 80. i just feel that this is only part the way to go, not all the way. AMD has got a much better idea with Fusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrimes80 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) So first the Mhz race, now the core race...Does Intel never learn? It's tricky enough to make progams that fully use 4 cores, let alone 80. i just feel that this is only part the way to go, not all the way. AMD has got a much better idea with Fusion Simply because 80 cores isn't of use to a typical consumer today, it hardly warrants any denounciation. There's a huge difference between what good for the consumer today and what's good for the industry. I provided consultation for a CNC lathe design/mod to cut within .000002 or "2 hundreths of a tenth" ... is this necessary? NO! A product's practicality today is beside the point when doing R&D; it's paving the road for the future. It's like the iPod, everyone starts designing products around your technology, it helps provide a stable market base. just my Edited February 13, 2007 by jgrimes80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMC6053 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) Semi-related - trying to stay on topic. Old news but: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,60791-0.html An ordinary desktop PC outfitted with six PCI cards, each containing four of the chips, would perform at about 600 gigaflops (or more than half a teraflop). Edited February 13, 2007 by BMC6053 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest goodtime Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) The Core Wars is a rehash of the Megahertz battle. Though amazingly cool this is what will happen. You need a new computer with 2-4 cores. Next year, you need a new computer with 4, 8, or 16 cores. Year following, 16, 32, or 64 cores. This will go on and on until they cannot fit anymore cores. Then they will want you to buy a quad processor computer with 256 cores on each processor. Hopefully by then, biocomputers that calculate using plant life will emerge. By the way, technology moves exponentially not linearly. In our minds, we think technology changes linearly, but it does not work that way. Go Venus Fly Trap CPU Go! gt. Biocomputers could be centuries into the future: http://retoum12.wordpress.com/2007/01/21/h...cramble-an-egg/ http://www.centres.ex.ac.uk/egenis/events/...Amos-Egenis.pdf Edited February 13, 2007 by goodtime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 i think Amd its more reality based than Intel.Because they always have looked into better performance with instructions an tweaks of its architecture.Also im agree with you Paranoid Marvin ,i think Amd has something more apealling with Fusion , again graphics is the bottleneck to break so this seems more important than 80.000 core cpu . About Barcelona sounds promising, i hope that Intel get it at last and develop something in cooperation with nvidia. Zealot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVENGE Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 This thing is actually more of a proof of concept silicon to demonstrate that the bus these "cores" are using to communicate has the bandwidth and low-latency needed to support this kindof setup. The cores themselves are fairly meager, but imagine having say 10 full x86 cores for processing, 65 specialized cores dedicated to graphics processing, and another 5 cores for processing physics. It looks feasible with the current setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdprophet Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 The average Joe isn't exactly computing the number of possible planets in Proxima Centauri using thousands of petabytes of data. The quantum computer is basically only for research facilities. AMD and Intel don't have anything to worry about as far as losing market share in their main consumer base goes. That's not to say they don't feel pressure though. They do. But from eachother. It's a processor "arms race" basically. I read somewhere that the 80 core processor isn't x86 either, so I thought that the quantum processor could be competing with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
track09 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Now we need an OS that can effectively manage 80 cores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Freak Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I would want to buy one of those, but it seems so expansive, a four core Xeon already costs $2,000. How much do you guy expect this thing to cost? $40,000. My estimation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVENGE Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I read somewhere that the 80 core processor isn't x86 either, so I thought that the quantum processor could be competing with it. It can be anything it needs to be. The cores on this particular demo chip are "mini-cores" which aren't fully x86 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
track09 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I would want to buy one of those, but it seems so expansive, a four core Xeon already costs $2,000. How much do you guy expect this thing to cost? $40,000. My estimation. They won't put it to the market of consumers that high. It won't be more than $5,000 at most if it ever hits the consumer level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPDM Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 it does not have that many cores, but has 1 core with 128 unified shader engines. Great.. the stuff isn't out yet and already they begin misleading the world. As for this intel chip. If it's based on the ARM-technology they nipped from Digital (StrongARM/XScale) then it doesn't necesarry consume much power. And since they said it isn't x86-compatible, which for embedded or speciallised machinery, isn't a requirement it doesn't matter either. We ALL know the fiasco of the Netburst architecture so this move to chung cores together to increase computing power is the logical step and excact opposite from drivng clockspeeds up. As for the use of the thing. Well Vista is already stuffed with DRM (and probably other useless {censored}), and it's ridiculous de-/encoding engine for socalled "Premium content" requires a hefty share of computational power. So the not yet available multi-core, teraflop-power will already be wasted by simply playing a HD-DVD onto your DH-TV/monitor setup. Which means that al this technological increase will be reduced to nothing by the time the Multi-megacorporations have a go at it while we the consumers wont benefit at all (except for yet another nice windowdress-up perhaps) Naah, I'm not impresed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenVa Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 The Venus Fly Trap CPU is code named the Audrey II Please don't feed the plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe75 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Please don't feed the plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest goodtime Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 The plant computer will take over the world one day. Oh {censored}, my wife's roses are attacking me. It's already begun. hehe gt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest goodtime Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 So when is the 800 Core processor coming out?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret-Simpson Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Remember their 50ghz roomtemp CPU? I wonder if they'll combine the two? 50ghz 80core CPU. . . *twitch. Whimper* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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