makk Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1-- Seagate Firecuda 530 SSD $139 Heatsink Version at Bestbuy and other places. this sports two versions: one with heatsink and one without. Heatsink less version is ten dollars less. Then you definitely need a heatsink which can be above $20. The heatsink version sold by Seagate has been lived tested to be around 18C on boot and around 22C while running idly and around 58C during hard testing. The heatsink less version runs above 63C hard testing and idles at 33C or higher. Thermal incidents occur. 2-- Silicon Power XS70 Heatsink version only sells at-- $89 for 1TB model at their site and $94 at Amazon and others. Not yet at Bestbuy.com for some reason. Has one version with heatsink and has same temperature characteristics as the Seagate model with the heatsink. Both of these have the Phison E18 controller and Micron’s 176-layer B47R TLC NAND. Micron has announced their new 232 Layer one mid termish this year. Both of these achieve upto and around these figures: 7000-7300 MB read speeds and upto and around these figures: 6800-6900 MB write speeds. --could be lower depending on several factors such as heat and the hardware onboard. Plus if your software is not cluttered. Can affect a great deal. Depending on your CPU + motherboard components may achieve 7300 MB per on reads and upto 6800 - 6900 MB write speeds without Overclocking. I would venture to assume with DDR5 Ram and the Newer CPU's AMD and Intel has produced lately can reach max throughput. Obviously these numbers are not randomly produced. Theory is nice but need real world figures. These both are above Samsung at the moment. Gen 4 currently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max.1974 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Nice @makk and for coincidence, I saw on Amazon US, 4 TB and really is price is not so bad, compare with another's. Im bought one WD SN 5850x 1 TB for teste, is good too. Im thinking order soon, to put my backups from my HDDS discs retired Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makk Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Max.1974 said: Nice @makk and for coincidence, I saw on Amazon US, 4 TB and really is price is not so bad, compare with another's. Im bought one WD SN 5850x 1 TB for teste, is good too. Im thinking order soon, to put my backups from my HDDS discs retired Thanks!! @Max.1974 probably good to have the Silicon Power XS70 2TB for $169.99 x2 at $370 then get an external hookup that can house a few of these like a dual bay NVME https://www.newegg.com/maiwo-k3016sd/p/2BN-00EG-00020?Item=9SIAVF7DRP6244&Description=m.2 nvme adapter&cm_re=m.2_nvme adapter-_-9SIAVF7DRP6244-_-Product&cm_sp=SP-_-1254507-_-0-_-6-_-9SIAVF7DRP6244-_-m.2 nvme adapter-_-adapter|nvme-_-12 ^ Lower in cost ^ For this configuration XS70 1TB at $94 x 4 a little under $400 for 4Tb as super speeds. Gen 4 Asus Hyperx PCIe housing 4 NVME's. Can do raid or single's. https://www.newegg.com/asus-90mc08a0-m0aay0-pci-express-to-m-2-card/p/N82E16815293047?Description=m.2 nvme adapter&cm_re=m.2_nvme adapter-_-9SIA25VH161402-_-Product If you have a Tower Case can add up to 4 Sata III plus a few HDD's and at least 4 NVME's. HDDs for backup. HDD's are more reliable in the years then these NV sticks. and Sata III. So good for backup drives. Just make sure you have power saving mode turned on for the HDD's so they stay sleeping during. They don't need to be on all the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max.1974 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) Oh nice, its possible do RAID with Nvme ? I try a long time ago, but no success. Thanks to available links, my friend, im always watching the new hardwares!!! God bless you!! 😀 Its truth, my "old" WD Gold 4 TB and my Seagate 4 TB external works fine, and after remapping my USB ports with detailer guid to make a SSDT so f#cking cool, its amazing speed after years suffering, and now its nice. Them works very fine!!! Very awesome ideas and hardwares, im see now!! My new motherboard, Z790 Aorus Elite have many nvme slots. But I appreciated the possibility to make a RAID. It's possible to do in my motherboard too, im so glad to know it!! Edited December 6, 2022 by Max.1974 News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makk Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Max.1974 said: Oh nice, its possible do RAID with Nvme ? I try a long time ago, but no success. Thanks to available links, my friend, im always watching the new hardwares!!! God bless you!! 😀 Its truth, my "old" WD Gold 4 TB and my Seagate 4 TB external works fine, and after remapping my USB ports with detailer guid to make a SSDT so f#cking cool, its amazing speed after years suffering, and now its nice. Them works very fine!!! Very awesome ideas and hardwares, im see now!! My new motherboard, Z790 Aorus Elite have many nvme slots. But I appreciated the possibility to make a RAID. It's possible to do in my motherboard too, im so glad to know it!! @Max.1974 Z790 is probably top of the line for Intel Cpu's. yes 4 NVME, 6 SATA III which you can pick and choose mix and match: HDD or SSD USB is prolly good choice for HDD because you can unplug it. If you put HDD onboard, it boots up and sleeps, and takes space in the case usually on the bottom now days. Gets noisy on boot if internal. I have 2x 2Tb HDD both USB but I took one out of the case, used an adapter installed in the Tower. Cost for one USB 2TB back about 7 years now was between $40 - $50 USD. As for RAID on MacOS Ventura, not sure if this is doable on Third Party Kexts and cards. AppleRaidCard is what Apple uses. Have to check around to see if any one has success with OpenCore and latest MacOS. As for Raid on Windows no problems. I would not run Raid rather 4 individually on PCIe HyperX card. Raid is for Server class running redundancy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max.1974 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 12 hours ago, makk said: @Max.1974 Z790 is probably top of the line for Intel Cpu's. yes 4 NVME, 6 SATA III which you can pick and choose mix and match: HDD or SSD USB is prolly good choice for HDD because you can unplug it. If you put HDD onboard, it boots up and sleeps, and takes space in the case usually on the bottom now days. Gets noisy on boot if internal. I have 2x 2Tb HDD both USB but I took one out of the case, used an adapter installed in the Tower. Cost for one USB 2TB back about 7 years now was between $40 - $50 USD. As for RAID on MacOS Ventura, not sure if this is doable on Third Party Kexts and cards. AppleRaidCard is what Apple uses. Have to check around to see if any one has success with OpenCore and latest MacOS. As for Raid on Windows no problems. I would not run Raid rather 4 individually on PCIe HyperX card. Raid is for Server class running redundancy. Thanks!!! Is very nice use USB External and internal, but like you said, noise is very bad!!! After im back up from my external plugged, on WD 4 TB internal, im turn off again...and um use raid SSD sata and is very good choice too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makk Posted December 7, 2022 Author Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Max.1974 said: Thanks!!! Is very nice use USB External and internal, but like you said, noise is very bad!!! After im back up from my external plugged, on WD 4 TB internal, im turn off again...and um use raid SSD sata and is very good choice too!! Yes nice way. The convenient thing about onboard HDD is for backups. Doesn't require USB cable. Just plug and play onboard. However the throughput is not the same as USB external. I was getting 2.4Gb on throughput writes USB external average. Onboard, fluctuates between 1 to 2 GB. So depending on the Motherboard and all this could go up or down. The interesting points for RAID is that fact that it can simultaneously read and write to several drives giving good redundancy of data having then several to boot from as well as backups. Can take one out and boot on another machine. So making copies is doable without the need to install over again. Then you can switch RAID conditions around to suit some functions where if the software is a good one have several apps running to write to the a chosen dedicated drive. Development to one drive, gaming on another, so forth. Not sure about gaming but I would assume can be done in a windowed fashion while running a development app to another. At the moment I see max of 4 drives on a card. Can dedicate a drive to suit what you want. I'm not sure how far along having several drives has come to, but the idea is to be able to run several apps each using a dedicated drive. Having also several monitors dedicated and plugged into one machine each viewing the intended app. Dedicated, like having several machines but done on one. Switchable on the fly at any time and no lag. Edited December 7, 2022 by makk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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