[pre-release] macOS Ventura

[PoMpIs]

16 minutes ago, Common_Sense said:

 

Yes... It was working the whole time but playing on my 2nd monitor (TV) which had another input selected. hehe, well it works at least even if I look like a fool.

 

Do you have DRM working in Safari?

 

Yes, everything works on safari, Netflix, Disney+, HBO 👍

[eSaF]

With SmBIOS iMac 20,2 all good on mine although have to use Chrome for Netflix and Amazon.

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[PoMpIs]

@Common_Sense 

 

I was curious if the DRM was still working when connecting a second monitor... and indeed it only works for 30 seconds, then it stops and the video is black  

 

 

Removing the second monitor makes everything work again.. 

 

With each new beta we are losing something 😆

 

Edited August 12, 2022 by PoMpIs

[Matgen84]

13 hours ago, eSaF said:

With SmBIOS iMac 20,2 all good on mine although have to use Chrome for Netflix and Amazon.

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Hi @eSaF I want to tru my Clover config.plist with SMBIOS Imac20,1 (Z390 i7 9700k, RX 580) on Ventura. I see you use SMBIOS Imac20,2. What do you think is the best choice? I don't understand the difference between the two except for the graphics card on these original Apple models.
Let me know, please.

[miliuco]

@Matgen84

These are the specs of 4 iMac SMBIOS we can have:

• iMac19,1 >> CPU Coffee Lake / Radeon Pro 570X / 27" 2017 2019
• iMac19,2 >> CPU Coffee Lake / Radeon Pro 555X / 21.5" 2017 2019
• iMac20,1 >> CPU Comet Lake / Radeon Pro 5300/5500 XT / 27" 2020
• iMac20,2 >> CPU Comet Lake / Radeon Pro 5700/5700 XT / 27" 2020.

Accordingly, iMac 19.1 and 19.2 seem more suitable to our 9th gen CPUs. but I really think that any of the 4 is suitable for our machines.

All 4 have Radeon dGPUs and also Intel UHD 630.

I usually have iMac19,1 and @eSaF 20,2.

In my opinion, you can try but macOS is going to work the same with any of the 4.

 

Edited August 12, 2022 by miliuco

[PoMpIs]

58 minutes ago, MacAbe said:

That can't be, here beta 5, smbios MacPro7.1 with 2 Display everything works fine, Amazon Prime too...!

 

what GPU do you have?

[D3v1L]

btw lol

 

 

0 slot occupied xD

[Common_Sense]

4 minutes ago, D3v1L said:

btw lol

 

 

0 slot occupied xD

This is how it looks like without RestrictEvent kext. If you use RestrictEvent kext, it will look similar to other mac models.

[D3v1L]

5 hours ago, Common_Sense said:

This is how it looks like without RestrictEvent kext. If you use RestrictEvent kext, it will look similar to other mac models.

Sure but... this is not my hackintosh....is my 2019 MacPro7,1 🤣 😉 

Edited August 12, 2022 by D3v1L

[Matgen84]

2 hours ago, miliuco said:

@Matgen84

These are the specs of 4 iMac SMBIOS we can have:

• iMac19,1 >> CPU Coffee Lake / Radeon Pro 570X / 27" 2017 
• iMac19,2 >> CPU Coffee Lake / Radeon Pro 555X / 21.5" 2017
• iMac20,1 >> CPU Comet Lake / Radeon Pro 5300/5500 XT / 27" 2020
• iMac20,2 >> CPU Comet Lake / Radeon Pro 5700/5700 XT / 27" 2020.

Accordingly, iMac 19.1 and 19.2 seem more suitable to our 9th gen CPUs. but I really think that any of the 4 is suitable for our machines.

All 4 have Radeon dGPUs and also Intel UHD 630.

I usually have iMac19,1 and @eSaF 20,2.

In my opinion, you can try but macOS is going to work the same with any of the 4.

 

 

@miliuco Thanks. I'm agree with you. Actually, I use SMBIOS Imac19,1 suitable for our 9th CPU. These 2 Aluminum iMac models was introduced in 2019 (not in 2017 as you wrote, Bro).

[PoMpIs]

22 minutes ago, MacAbe said:

AMD RX 580

 

I knew it!!! 😄 ... Does that GPU have Metal 3 in Ventura?

 

 

Because in Monterey with metal 2 it works for me with two or more monitors

Edited August 12, 2022 by PoMpIs

[D3v1L]

Just now, PoMpIs said:

 

I knew it!!! 😄 ... Does that GPU have Metal 3 in Ventura?

 

 

Because in Monterey with metal 3 it works for me with two or more monitors

Polaris Is not metal 3 capable

[PoMpIs]

13 minutes ago, D3v1L said:

Polaris Is not metal 3 capable

 

That's why I asked, because in my computer with RX6000, since the betas come with Metal 3 support, they cause me quite a few errors with almost all the video playback applications... that will need to be adapted at random, but until the final version comes out, no I have a solution

 

Amazon prime video app sometimes causes screen flickers if I enter the Launchpad... SVP+MPV or IINA Causes "windowServer" to fail sometimes.

 

And in monterey with Metal 2 none of that happens... and I use the same EFI in both systems 🤷‍♂️

Edited August 12, 2022 by PoMpIs

[PoMpIs]

@MacAbe 

 

It's correct...😁  only that almost never happens to me.. 

 

It has only happened to me twice, and only in Beta 5.....

 

But safari I have already detected from the beta one that has quite a few bugs....

 

But I still use it daily 🤣

[miliuco]

2 hours ago, Matgen84 said:

...These 2 Aluminum iMac models was introduced in 2019 (not in 2017 as you wrote, Bro).

Ups, it's true, I wrote 2017 by mistake. Fixed.

 

Edited August 12, 2022 by miliuco

[deeveedee]

@Sherlocks and @Moviemakergr - I formatted a USB3 thumb drive as FAT/MBR and was able to duplicate the USB performance issue that you described.  It does appear to me that the issue is not specific to EFI partition, but rather is specific to the partition format.  In Ventura Beta 5, when running BlackMagic Disk Test on a FAT formatted USB3, the test failed with a write error as shown below.  USB3/FAT performance appeared to be fine in Monterey 12.5.  Note that before the write failure in Ventura, write speed for the USB3/FAT drive was only 10MB/s vs. 18MB/s in Monterey 12.5.

 

Monterey 12.5: BlackMagic Disk Speed Test - USB3 Thumb Drive - FAT/MBR

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Ventura Beta 5: BlackMagic Disk Speed Test - USB3 Thumb Drive - FAT/MBR

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EDIT: In Ventura Beta 5, I re-ran the same test with the same USB3 / same USB 3.1 port, but changed the USB Thumb Drive format to APFS.  There were no performance issues which further solidifies my belief that there is a problem with the way Ventura Beta is handling FAT formatted partitions.

 

Ventura Beta 5: BlackMagic Disk Speed Test - USB3 Thumb Drive - APFS

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Edited August 12, 2022 by deeveedee
Added APFS-format test

[Common_Sense]

6 hours ago, D3v1L said:

Sure but... this is not my hackintosh....is my 2019 MacPro7,1 🤣 😉 

Yes, I didn't even consider that some people might have real macs 😊

[miliuco]

Note: my dGPU is RX 6600 or RX 6600 XT.

 

A few days ago @Pavo commented about the AMD GPU handled by AGPM controller, seen as AGPM under the first display device of the dGPU on IORegistryExplorer.

I've noticed that:

• iMac19,1 SMBIOS by default has AGPM controller. In Monterey, it has only one AGPMClient key however, in Ventura, there is a few (usually 12). I don't know why. In both cases the RX 6600 seems to work fine.
  
  
  
  
   
• MacPro7,1 SMBIOS by default doesn't show the AGPM controller although it's possible, as suggested by @Pavoand done by @PoMpIs, to generate an AGMPInjector codeles kext to have it.
   

Edited August 13, 2022 by miliuco

[BarryBar]

Hello everyone,

 

First of all my thanks to you all for this nice thread and the contributions to it. It has been helpful in recognizing problems on my system and also supplied solutions. For instance this terminal command made it possible for me to run another updated EFI folder.

First I wanted to clean install Ventura beta 5 to see whether that would solce the problem with CPU heating up. Because another forum member said to the contrary I have decided to postpone that clean install for now.  To my surprise however today there was no need to run the command because the CPU did not heat up. That is after a few times running the command after startup. Hopefully it could be the case the problem dies out if the schedule kill command is used a couple of times. I will you updated on this.

sudo pmset schedule cancelall

 

Edited August 13, 2022 by BarryBar

[Matgen84]

1 hour ago, miliuco said:

Note: my dGPU is RX 6600 or RX 6600 XT.

 

A few days ago @Pavo commented about the AMD GPU handled by AGPM controller, seen as AGPM under the first display device of the dGPU on IORegistryExplorer.

I've noticed that:

• iMac19,1 SMBIOS by default has AGPM controller. In Monterey, it has only one AGPMClient key however, in Ventura, there is a few (usually 12). I don't know why. In both cases the RX 6600 seems to work fine.
• MacPro7,1 SMBIOS by default doesn't show the AGPM controller although it's possible, as suggested by @Pavoand done by @PoMpIs, to generate an AGMPInjector codeles kext to have it.
   

 

Hi @miliuco If you want to generate an AGPMInjector for SMBIOS MacPro7,1. Download the latest OC-Gen-X (Pavo's app on GitHub), use graphics menu.  

[miliuco]

43 minutes ago, Matgen84 said:

 

Hi @miliuco If you want to generate an AGPMInjector for SMBIOS MacPro7,1. Download the latest OC-Gen-X (Pavo's app on GitHub), use graphics menu.  

Yes, thank you, I have tried it but there are 2 drawbacks:

• OC-Gen-X from @Pavo doesn't have RX 6600, only 6600 XT, this is the one I've chosen but not sure if the properties are exactly the same
• GeekBench 5 scores drop clearly with this kext (maybe related to the above issue).

With AGPMInjector, there is AGPM controller on Monterey as in Ventura.

[Matgen84]

56 minutes ago, miliuco said:

Yes, thank you, I have tried it but there are 2 drawbacks:

• OC-Gen-X from @Pavo doesn't have RX 6600, only 6600 XT, this is the one I've chosen but not sure if the properties are exactly the same
• GeekBench 5 scores drop clearly with this kext (maybe related to the above issue).

With AGPMInjector, there is AGPM controller on Monterey as in Ventura.

 

Sorry if Off-Topic: the differences between RX 6600 and RX 6600 XT: Cores (1792/2048), Base Clock (2044/1968Mhz) and BootClock (2491/2589Mhz) 😊

Edited August 13, 2022 by Matgen84

[Pavo]

2 hours ago, miliuco said:

Yes, thank you, I have tried it but there are 2 drawbacks:

• OC-Gen-X from @Pavo doesn't have RX 6600, only 6600 XT, this is the one I've chosen but not sure if the properties are exactly the same
• GeekBench 5 scores drop clearly with this kext (maybe related to the above issue).

With AGPMInjector, there is AGPM controller on Monterey as in Ventura.

RX 6600 and RX 6000 XT have the same device-id, if it doesn’t you can always generate the injector kext of a RX 6600 XT and manually change the device-id in the Info.plist. All dGPUs have the same settings for properties.

Edited August 13, 2022 by Pavo

[eSaF]

I can not remember if it is in this thread where a few said they noticed high temps and max fan speed under Ventura so I thought I'd throw this out there. For those of us going through a higher than usual heat wave, it would be a good idea to give your rig a good clean removing all the dust filters as well and clean. I just done mine and the temps has dropped by 3 - 5 degrees as a result hopefully putting less stress on the CPU and components. Living in a cold climate coupled with an ambient indoors temperature, we tend to forget this necessary task at times.

[Slice]

16 minutes ago, eSaF said:

I can not remember if it is in this thread where a few said they noticed high temps and max fan speed under Ventura so I thought I'd throw this out there. For those of us going through a higher than usual heat wave, it would be a good idea to give your rig a good clean removing all the dust filters as well and clean. I just done mine and the temps has dropped by 3 - 5 degrees as a result hopefully putting less stress on the CPU and components. Living in a cold climate coupled with an ambient indoors temperature, we tend to forget this necessary task at times.

In this thread some users noticed high CPU load under Ventura. The reason of high temps is not in climate change, the reason  is in bad tuned Ventura.