Post YOUR instructions....

~Neo · November 26, 2006

Ok,

this thread is meant to search the best and universal method to get natit WITH dual screen working!

Please ONLY instructions (and maybe some files :angel: ) and NO questions or other things! These will be removed!!!

Waiting for some tuts now :blowup:

spanakorizo · November 27, 2006

EDITI would also recomend this method for all the users that had no luck

with titan or natit kexts and QE/CI enabled.

Just leave ONLY the kexts i describe and ofcourse ADD the DEVid at

like this in the info.plist

ok i will post my instructions as i promised in order to install

7600GS AGP WITH QE/CI ENABLED

i didnt have the time to test dual screen but in 1 monitor everything works perfect ,and AGP with agpgart

after DOING A LOT of tests with different kexts,remove kexts/modify etc

differnet versions of natit/titan ...compinations together with other kexts or leave them alone,

i found that the ONLY solution for this card is :

8.8.1 kernel of course (i used the latest semthex beta7)

natit.kext (i used the one at the official thread that says "natit_edit.kext" )

and only 3 kexts at the extensions

GEFORCE.KEXT

NVDARESMAN.KEXT

NVDANV40Hal.kext

ONLY THOSE 3 KEXTS!

and must put the DEvid in both of them

if you put the dev only in geforce.kext or in NVDARESMAN.KEXT the system will crash

if you leave only the NVDAREsman or NVDAV40 with corrected id the system will crash

if you put 1 of them but with not corrected id the natit driver will load BUT you will not have QE/CI

not either resolutions

so you must edit/install BOTH OF THEM

i have also THESE .bundle geforces in the extensions folder,maybe they match somewhere :

(unmodified)

GeForce2MXGLDriver.bundle

GeForce3GLDriver.bundle

GeForceFXGLDriver.bundle

GeForceGA.plugin

GeForceVADriver.bundle

so delete or nvidia/geforce kexts and put only those at extensions

edit the info.plist and add your devid (there are guides about this)

<key>IOPCIMatch</key>

<string>0x02e110de</string>

and at the terminal set the permissions correct

EDIT

set permissions for 3 IMPORTANT kexts you copy/pasted in extensions folder

open terminal and:

sudo -s

type your password

copy paste ALL this ..

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce.kext

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/NVDARESMAN.KEXT ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/NVDARESMAN.KEXT

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/NVDANV40Hal.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/NVDANV40Hal.kext

sudo rm -f /System/Library/Extensions.mkext

sudo rm -f /System/Library/Extensions.kextcache

diskutil repairpermissions /

[PRESS ENTER]

reboot

after reboot you will have CI/QE and then you can install at extensions AGPGART for AGP

LIKE you did with other kexts:

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/AGPGart.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/AGPGart.kext

sudo rm -f /System/Library/Extensions.mkext

sudo rm -f /System/Library/Extensions.kextcache

diskutil repairpermissions /

[PRESS ENTER]

reboot

everything works well here :construction:

MY installation DVD was 10.4.8 AMD SSE3TEST1 (tubgirl) cause im in amd ofcourse

cbreaker · December 7, 2006

Sorry guys, I had a post on here that explained it...

It was deleted.

I'll try to post it again tomorrow when it's not 3AM. Basically, you want to edit those three nVidia kext's he mentioned - the Info.plist files in their folders (you have to use the terminal to get to these, and I think Nano is the easiest editor, use nano -w when you run it.) Look for the big long line of strings in each file, and replace everything between the >< with your card - in the format of 0x004510de - meaning, if your card Device ID is 0045 and the vendor is 10de (nvidia.) 0045 is the 6800GT, so look in the plist.info in the Natit.kext folder and find your card to find the Device ID. (mine also shows the card's device ID during bootup after the BIOS detects the hard disks.) It might also be seen in system profiler.

I only edited the GeForce.kext, NVDAResMan.kext, and NVDANV40HAL.kext info's. I left everything else there. I had Titan at first, so I removed that. I didn't have to change any permissions, because I didn't create new files I just edited the existing ones. That's assuming you have an NV40 card - I don't know about others but once you realize what needs to be done hopefully you can figure it out.

Once the nVidia drivers kicked in, AGPGart also kicked in (which you should install if it's AGP) and froze my system until I figured out how to unlock the CMOS setup option for the Aperture. I set it to 128MB and it worked.

See, the problem is that although the nVidia drivers support a lot of cards (it's likely a port from the Windows/Linux driver which supports almost all nVidia cards) they are only set up to detect ones that Apple sells. Natit only initializes the card, because the Apple ones initialize in a special way that the PC ones don't, so you need to make the nVidia drivers to also detect it. Once you edit those kext's, hopefully the nVidia drivers will detect your card and provide full 3D acceleration. The 6800GT is in the Natit.kext, but it wasn't in the nVidia kext's.

Hopefully that helps you. There's no Guarantee that your card will work even if the driver does recognize it though - since nVidia doesn't really make their own cards, there's a lot of little differences between brands.

ps. I use dual screens - one VGA one DVI- both 1920x1200, and it all works, so hopefully it works for you too.

koaxial · December 7, 2006

Hello everyone! I would like to share that I finally succeeded in getting my Gfx card to work... in DUAL!

Please see my Graphics/Display profile below:

-------------------------------------------

GeForce 7600 GS:

Chipset Model: GeForce 7600 GS

Type: Display

Bus: PCIe

VRAM (Total): 256 MB

Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)

Device ID: 0x0392

Revision ID: 0x00a1

Displays:

L1710S:

Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz

Depth: 32-bit Color

Core Image: Supported

Main Display: Yes

Mirror: Off

Online: Yes

Quartz Extreme: Supported

L1710S:

Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz

Depth: 32-bit Color

Core Image: Supported

Mirror: Off

Online: Yes

Quartz Extreme: Supported

-------------------------------------------

And here's my system specs:

Asus P5LD2-VM SE Intel 945G (built-in 8-ch HD ALC 882 snd, Intel Gb LAN & GMA 950 Gfx)

Intel Pentium D 830+ (which i plan to upgrade to Core 2 Duo when i get some cash)

2GB GEIL PC2-4300 533MHz

Leadtek WinFast PX 7600 GS TDH (PCIe) - DUAL DVI

2 LG Flatron L1710S (a bit old but i'm satisfied with them)

-------------------------------------------

Here's what i did:

Clean install from Mac OS X 10.4.7 Jas DVD

Official Update 10.4.8 via Software Update from Apple (All 4 available updates selected)

After the update: I DID NOT reboot/restart until i:

replaced the kernel to VITALY kernel (mifki) for Intel NX & SS3 CPU (Version 8.8.1: Sun Oct 29 01:33:16 MSD 2006; vit:xnu-792.13.8/BUILD/obj/RELEASE_I386 i386 i386) which i got from here:

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=32025

also replaced the AppleSMBIOS.kext which can be obtained from here:

http://paulicat.freeflux.net/

and followed the step by step guide by paulicat (i did not replace the original IOATAFamily.kext)

Reboot/Restart. (i noticed my system restarted twice before getting to the desktop).

Installed the 'Natit_1.0.pkg' which i obtained by following the link from here:

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...32004&st=40

after that i replaced the 'Natit.kext' in my /System/Library/Extensions folder

with the one from this thread: (Natit_Dual_v0[1].02.zip)

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...=32536&st=0

Of course, i did the usual thing before restarting:

cd /System/Library/Extensions

sudo chown -R root:wheel Natit.kext && sudo chmod -R 755 Natit.kext

sudo rm -f /System/Library/Extensions.mkext

sudo rm -f /System/Library/Extensions.kextcache

Reboot/Restart. Both screens would go black/dead for a while and after that, VIOLA! DUAL screens!

I didn't do editing of kext's and that's basically it!

CONS: Enabling the 'Mirror Display' option in System Preferences would leave the main display with just the mouse cursor. Everything's gone black except the secondary display.

Here's my monitor config:

DVI > VGA Adaptor > LCD Monitor (L1710S) - Primary

DVI > VGA Adaptor > LCD Monitor (L1710S) - Secondary

Sorry if i already gave too much info especially the links i provided above (is this allowed?). I have noticed some members in this forum are hesitant to give more information especially the links of where did they get this one... and that. Of course, i also spent sleepless nights researching through this forum before getting my system up and running. At some point, i almost gave up but then also almost everyday i read some success story from other members but were not too eager to share it or that they simply forgot on how did they do it. But thanks to them anyway, they did give me reason to continue.

BTW, my previous Gfx card (WinFast Geforce 6600 LE) didn't work for me. I did all possible solutions:

Natit_1.0.pkg, Natit_Uni1.0.pkg, Natit_ATIauto.pkg, Natit_edited.kext, Natit_Dual.01, Natit_Dual.02 and other things including editing the kext's. i almost pulled my hair off! Didn't work! no DUAL screens. But CI/QE worked in either combinations. (i got used to DUAL display since the matrox-twinhead days).

As you may also have noticed there are lot of members in this forum have some problem with just at least the CI/QE running.

I hope the above links and guides will be of some help to those members.

Special thanks to:

dm_webd

NeoPheus

bofors

gaucho

and also to:

Rammjet

Takuro and the rest...

And especially to:

semthex

Vitaly (mifki)

paulicat

and of course to:

np_ - (pls continue in what you are doing)

omni?

And all the guys who are involved in Natit & Titan project.

You guys are genius! keep up the good work! :idea:

You can count on me with those 'Donate' buttons soon.

Sorry with my English. It's not my everyday language.

koaxial

batitombo · December 7, 2006

This method did not worked with my PNY Geforce 7600GS 512mb

spanakorizo · December 9, 2006

DELETE ALL NVIDIA AND GEFORCE KEXTS FROM /EXTENSIONS FOLDER

ok listen

1st of all go to system/extensions folder and DELETE ALL nvidia and geforce kexts etc

for example : Geforce.kext : DELETE IT

YOU MUST DELETE ALL THE FILES

now download this rar i 've made that inside are only the neccesary kexts i used to load nvidia

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=...RKING_KEXTS.rar

extract everything and paste all the files inside this rar to EXTENSIONS folder

(dont extract the file CONSOLE COMMANDS.txt ! )

NOW YOU MUST MODIFY 3 KEXTS YOU JUST INSTALLED IN EXTENSIONS WITH YOUR devID CORRECTLY

THE 3 KEXTS ARE:

GEFORCE.KEXT

NVDARESMAN.KEXT

NVDANV40Hal.kext

you must do this with nano in the terminal and when you finish save the changes

now open terminal

type: sudo -s

enter your password

now copy/paste all this text to terminal (in 1 line)

____________________________________________________________________________

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce.kext

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/NVDARESMAN.KEXT ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/NVDARESMAN.KEXT

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/NVDANV40Hal.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/NVDANV40Hal.kext

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/Natit.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/Natit.kext

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/AGPGart.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/AGPGart.kext

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce2MXGLDriver.bundle ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce2MXGLDriver.bundle

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce3GLDriver.bundle ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce3GLDriver.bundle

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/GeForceFXGLDriver.bundle ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/GeForceFXGLDriver.bundle

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/GeForceGA.plugin ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/GeForceGA.plugin

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/GeForceVADriver.bundle ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/GeForceVADriver.bundle

sudo rm -f /System/Library/Extensions.mkext

sudo rm -f /System/Library/Extensions.kextcache

diskutil repairpermissions /

________________________________________________________________________________

now press enter at terminal

w8 for some seconds

type: reboot

if you did everything correctly after reboot you must have qe/ci

i've made easy for you the most serious part at terminal in one copy/paste

but you must also modify CORRECTLY the 3 kexts ,its very important also

plz dont ask me "what is devID,where can i find it?...how do i insert my devID etc etc"

im trying to help but there are answers for those common questions everywhere in forum!

hope this helps

johnniecarcinogen · December 10, 2006

So if you have an nvida card with a nv30 chipset just use NVDANV30Hal.kext instead of NVDANV40Hal.kext and do everything else the same?

Rammjet · December 10, 2006

From what I've seen, the key is to put your device id into these two kexts:

GeForce.kext

NVDAResman.kext

-- and --

one of the following:

NVDANV10Hal.kext

NVDANV20Hal.kext

NVDANV30Hal.kext

NVDANV40Hal.kext

I speculate the series goes like this:

older cards  NVDANV10Hal.kext
4xxx cards   NVDANV20Hal.kext
5xxx cards   NVDANV30Hal.kext
6xxx cards   NVDANV40Hal.kext
7xxx cards   NVDANV40Hal.kext

redult · December 10, 2006

Got a GeForce FX 5500 (128MB) AGP Card working....

I've used the Nvidia Accelerated Kext Package (got it from Demonoid).

Copied these files into the extensions folder:

GeForce.kext

GeForce2MXGLDriver.bundle

GeForce3GLDriver.bundle

GeForceFXGLDriver.bundle

GeForceGA.plugin

GeForceVADriver.bundle

IONDRVSupport.kext

NVDANV30Hal.kext

NVDAResman.kext

and just corrected the DevID in

the info.plist files of following:

NVDAV30Hal.kext/Contents/Info.plist

NVDAResman.kext/Contents/Info.plist

GeForce.kext/Contents/Info.plist

I used the latest titan.kext from

http://omni.starchaser.org/titan

which I suspect to be the same in the package @ demonoid.

Terminal:

chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/Titan.kext

chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/Titan.kext

then

deleted Extensions.kextcache and Extensions.mkext from /System/Library/

and repaired permissions using disk utility....

rebooted and looked fine except that it just frooze here:

Screenshot

so i booted my other installation of osx and deleted apgart.kext in the extension folder...

after that it was working

QE/CI Working :}

My Hardware:

AMD 64 3700+ @ 2,4Ghz (SSE2)

Gigabyte K8N Mainboard (Nforce 3 Chipset)

1024MB Ram

200GB Maxtor HDD

i used a Myzar patched 10.4.6 and upgraded with the

JaS.10.4.8.AMD.SSE2.SemtheX.Beta9.pkg to 10.4.8

I hope my english is not too bad

cashgrow · December 10, 2006

ahh.. superfast reply, great!

Deleted agpgart.kext and got som progress i think.. sometimes the screen is big black and white boxes whit the mouse coursor and sometimes its completly black with only the mouse coursor. both on the vga and dvi. i did see something like this in the startup:

start display <1>

start display <1> failed

install is 10.4.6 Jas with the ss2 10.4.8 combo update.. with the beta9 kernel running smoothly.. done exactly what you described. got the same device ID so I didnt change that..but checked it.

got a intel P4 sse2 cpu with Club 3d 7600gs agp...

Hagar · December 10, 2006

Just 1 note: to avoid all kinds of trouble, start by editing just Geforce.kext. Reboot, check what loads, and progress..

In a lot of cases editing more than that is unnecessary, and in many cases causes problems. in any case, 1 change at a time, clear kextcache & reboot or at least kextload & recheck before going on.

~Neo · December 10, 2006

Ok... cleaned up...

PLEASE write questions in this thread now!!!

This is meant for instructions!

The two posts where some1 asked something were moved to the new thread!

walterav · December 11, 2006

SOLUTION

SSE2 kernel with TITAN nvidia injector!!! QE/CI colourprofiles / resswitch

MOST of the ABOVE POSTS are not complete !!!read why!!!

If we download software or distro DVD's with 10.4.8 from the usual channels , we think that we are actually running 10.4.8. In most cases this might not be so, if you start checking the versions of kexts, frameworks and other stuff involved, you notice that your 10.4.8 installation uses a mix of components of older releases 10.4.7-10.4.6-10.4.5-"10.4.4 my case". Everybody using a different mix of different components with versions of the OS makes trouble shooting a pita! There is only one solution beginning from scratch and don't use distro packages!!! BUILD YOUR OWN 10.4.8 for your own needs!!! Start from retail/vanilla...

---INSTRUCTIONS---

01*Start with a clean 1044 installation, just something that works it might even be1045 1046 1047 or 1048

02*save loginwindow.app to your desktop

03*update to a working 1048 kernel 881 not 841 "i used JASS combo updater 1048 with sse 2Beta9 semthex"

04*after restart replace loginwindow.app with the one from 10.44 i can't say if the others work "try about this mac and you will notice"

at this point kexts are becoming very important!!!

Now at this point I don't even know which kexts you are running or what version you are running WHATEVER so how can i ever sugest something??? Well I started from the lowest 1044 so if you load what i load you got everything "I HOPE ;-)"

05*Download an original 10.48comboupdate from apple intel version "search forum for link"

06*Download PACIFIST and install

07*open 1048combointel apple version.DMG

"don't install it!!!"

08*open the package with pacifist and extract the folder <EXTENSIONS> and <FRAMEWORKS> to desktop

09*now you have pure kexts and frameworks from 1048 extracted on the desktop!!!

10*go to >>>>system/library/extensions and delete all the following kexts!!!

-GEFORCE.kext "everything with gforce total of 6" to lazy to type names

-NVDHAL10-20-3040 etc "everything with nvda total of 4"

-NVDARESMAN

-IOGRAPHICSFAMILY

-IOPCIFAMILY

-IONDRVsupport

-appleintegratedframebufferupdater

-appleSMBIOS

i also deleted i915 950 and ati drivers because i have NVIDIA but it might not be neccesary

-also delete agpgart!!! but it might work with agp to i gonna test

11*Go to the 1048 extracted extentions folder on desktop and edit the info.plists in the next 3 kexts

GEFORCE.kext

NVDARESMAN.kext

NVDA10 or 20 or 30 or 40HALL.kext "depend on your GEFORCEFX NV30 = fx5200 fx5500 NV40=6600 or 7800 et etc"

to do this you have to right mouse button on each kext "show package contents" than open terminal and type: (nano -w )than drag the info.plist in the termin and press enter, now you are editing the info.plist with nano in the terminal and add your deviceID than save

Do this for all 3 other kexts to!!!

12*now copy back the deleted kexts from step10 with the ONES from the 1048EXTENSIONS folder on your desktop EXCEPT FOR appleSMBIOS.kext

13* download appleSMBIOS somewhere, the date is 23november!!!2006

14*put this downloaded appleSMBIOS also in the system/library/extensions/ folder

!!!15*forget this one its moved to the end

16*download titan 4 november from omnis website

17* put titan.kext also in the system/library/extonsions folder

18* goto terminal again

type:

sudo -s

"type your password" "than copy past the rest" mention!!!!! NVDANV30HAL.kext it might be 40 or 20 depends on card

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce.kext

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/NVDARESMAN.KEXT ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/NVDARESMAN.KEXT

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/NVDANV30Hal.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/NVDANV30Hal.kext

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/Titan.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/Titan.kext

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/IOGraphicsFamily.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/IOGraphicsFamily.kext

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/IOPCIFamily.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/IOPCIFamily.kext

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/IONDRVSupport.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/IONDRVSupport.kext

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/AppleIntelIntegratedFramebuffer.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/AppleIntelIntegratedFramebuffer.kext

sudo chown -R root:wheel /System/Library/Extensions/AppleSMBIOS.kext ;

sudo chmod -R 755 /System/Library/Extensions/AppleSMBIOS.kext