Colonel Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Apple may have an AMD-based notebook computer in the works. Taiwan component makers have stated that there is an increase in orders for certan capacitators that are intended to be used in an AMD-based Apple notebook. Digitimes has the the details. Taiwan passive component makers are witnessing an aggressive increase in orders for high-capacitance multi-layer ceramic capacitors (MLCCs), with most of the MLCCs having a capacitance of 22?F, and being for use in an AMD-based Apple notebook, sources at the makers noted. For this new notebook, about 70 22?F MLCCs will be required, with Japan-based Murata Manufacturing, Taiyo Yuden and TDK being the three major suppliers, the sources added. Speculation that AMD and Apple will team up has been fueled by statements made by AMD CEO Hector Ruiz in September, when he noted that the two companies will eventually do business with each other. The merger between AMD and ATI also helped make the speculation more convincing, as ATI delivers graphics solutions that are specialized for Apple G5 PCs. If Apple does start to use AMD processors, this may have a drastic effect on Apple's partnership with Intel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errandwolfe Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 This may finally give hope to us x200 people, especially if they will be producing "budget" MacBooks. They would almost certainly have the x200 chipset would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user2 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Apple may have an AMD-based notebook computer in the works. Taiwan component makers have stated that there is an increase in orders for certan capacitators that are intended to be used in an AMD-based Apple notebook. Digitimes has the the details. Taiwan passive component makers are witnessing an aggressive increase in orders for high-capacitance multi-layer ceramic capacitors (MLCCs), with most of the MLCCs having a capacitance of 22?F, and being for use in an AMD-based Apple notebook, sources at the makers noted. For this new notebook, about 70 22?F MLCCs will be required, with Japan-based Murata Manufacturing, Taiyo Yuden and TDK being the three major suppliers, the sources added. Speculation that AMD and Apple will team up has been fueled by statements made by AMD CEO Hector Ruiz in September, when he noted that the two companies will eventually do business with each other. The merger between AMD and ATI also helped make the speculation more convincing, as ATI delivers graphics solutions that are specialized for Apple G5 PCs. If Apple does start to use AMD processors, this may drastically affect Apple's partnership with Intel. God I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mifki Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooo!!!!! Scum of the cpu world , but hey they will have to make amd efi boards so it aint all bad..... INTEL FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuka Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Bah, I rather dislike AMD, Can Apple do that and keep AFI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton Peck Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 This may finally give hope to us x200 people, especially if they will be producing "budget" MacBooks. They would almost certainly have the x200 chipset would be my guess. I would gladly trade some CPU points for a better GPU, even if it is only an X200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Just thought i'd reiterate for everyone who's forgotten their own statements: "Apple will NEVER use AMD!!!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcslayer Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 "Apple will NEVER use AMD!!!". who said this??? even that is Jobs you should remember the famous Bill's statement: who need more than 8MB RAM!!~!?!? Infact, the AMD Turion give the same performance as Pentium M with much lower price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user2 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 "Apple will NEVER use AMD!!!". who said this??? even that is Jobs you should remember the famous Bill's statement: who need more than 8MB RAM!!~!?!? Infact, the AMD Turion give the same performance as Pentium M with much lower price. Right, the turion gives the same performance as Intels last generation mobile chip at the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katmail Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Members have OS X86 to run on AMD computers, so I don't think many software changes would be necessary. Positive News for OS X86.With Cheaper AMD Notebook Mac OS X could have increase its market share. By releasing its operating system more often and at a slightly lower cost, Apple Computer is better able to maximize its profitability in the OS field compared with its rival, Microsoft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mithrantir Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I really hope that Apple will release AMD powered computers most of you "NOOOOOOOOOO" guys should have to understand the followings: 1)There are Apple fans, Intel fans, and AMD fans (of course, someone can be apple&intel or apple&amd fan). Each one wants different things from his processors (which is not only about the processor itself, characteristics, cost, perfomance, but it's about personal experiences, support, future-plans, company policies etc). Personaly, i dislike 2 things in Intel, company policy and pricing (you have to admit that intel processors that did the same or worse job than athlon 64 cost higher than the AMD one, just how i have to admit that core 2 duo >>>> athlon64) By using intel processors Apple has kept me (and a lot more customers i guess) from buying an macbook. Apple may have done a lot of mistakes in the past, but i think they have learnt not to turn their backs on a marketshare 2)COMPETITION IS IMPORTANT. Of course, apple can make non-competitive models between amd and intel (the most important reason is so that the relationship with intel will not brake, if they can persuade intel that the amd models do not affect the intel models' sales). However, the slightest form of competition is always good, and if a particular model turns out to sell more than one other, there will need to be repricing (e.g. amd model sells more = intel will have to do something to make their model sell = cut down the price of the CPUs they give to Apple, asking apple to lower it's overall price, in order to be more competitive) 3)Compatibility. For all of us with athlon os x86 that need to wait for a release compatible to our software, things will get a lot easier Anyway, as a conclusion, i would like to say that since Apple does not dump intel, there is no reason for you to moan and whine, on the contrary, IF, i repeat IF, apple does indeed chose to make an AMD mobile, it gets a lot better for AMD fans, and it remains the same (or better) situation for intel fans. In any case, you have nothing to lose from this, and it can only affect you in a good way That's my personal opinion ofc anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mifki Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 But you need EFI, and i dont see apple creating a whole new framework just for AMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam_the_killer Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 APPLE WANTS TO REACH THE MASSES...so that they dry up the market for other notebook manufacturers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Apple may have an AMD-based notebook computer in the works. BS. Taiwan passive component makers are witnessing an aggressive increase in orders for high-capacitance multi-layer ceramic capacitors (MLCCs), with most of the MLCCs having a capacitance of 22?F, and being for use in an AMD-based Apple notebook, sources at the makers noted. For this new notebook, about 70 22?F MLCCs will be required, with Japan-based Murata Manufacturing, Taiyo Yuden and TDK being the three major suppliers, the sources added. Whatever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I think it's good. I hated Apple's switch from PowerPC, as Intel architechture is rubbish. AMD, however, make much better processors. Also, think of the GPU that would go in the Macbooks or Mini - it would be an Ati chip/card. I hope they do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 For those gullible enough to believe this nonsense, try reading AppleInsider's discussion: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread....;threadid=68520 Editor's note: DigiTimes has not been particularly accurate in its predictions of future Apple product directions and technologies EDIT: Also, see MacRumors discussion: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=252707 Readers should note that Digitimes remains notoriously inaccurate with their rumors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gio on the mic Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Well, as already noted, AMD-based notebook could give hope for my ATI x200 based Amilo: still struggling to get CI/QE on my Radeon, ethernet and sound fully working. I'll keep hoping... I also agree that competition and price lowering can bring Apple much more market/money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_muad_dib Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 it would be great but... i guess it will never happen.. just some rumors to keep you busy when you're on the {censored}ter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katmail Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Intel make the Best Chipset What do you think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabricioGS Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I wouldn't buy a Mac Book with AMD chip but it's very clear that Apple has turn out to be a PC manufacturer. Now I understand why Steve Jobs insist on comparing Apple to Dell. Apple is becaming day by day more like a Dell to me (and of course I just love Apple by far). But I think that's good for all of us because if Apple start using both AMD an Intel products they would probably fight for best prices and that kind of competition reflect to us as lower prices and better hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macadoo Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Maybe AMD will be used in their iTV product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katmail Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 macadooPosted Yesterday, 11:47 PM Maybe AMD will be used in their iTV product? AMD's upcoming "Fusion" chips, which combine processor and graphics, should be ripe for future media center machines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estek Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I do not see it specifically saying AMD CPUs, even if it is AMD chipsets it could be anything. Just a quick note that the name "ATI" is no longer being used. And that AMD is used to refer to AMD CPUs, ATI RADEON video cards (yes ATI RADEON is a brand now, not just RADEON), and AMD chipsets (No longer ATI chipsets). Just an example, former-ATI employees and "ATI" locations no longer process or work with ANYTHING (document, packaging, etc) that has the ATI logo on it. Example, former-ATI, now AMD employee goes and hands over a document to his manager with ATI logo on (well he was working for "ATI" till a few weeks ago), manager doesn't accept the document because of logo! true story. Same with partners, they refer to the entity as AMD. It took AMD less than a week to remove every and any sign of red ATI logo at their locations !!! All the way down to letter heads, badges, .... So Apple Notebooks using AMD chipset, could mean utilizing AMD-based integrated or dedicated graphics. As we all know Intel's graphics used in MacBook (Intel GMA 950) is pethatic in terms of 3D performance by today's standards. Or maybe even using AMD-based chipsets/controllers on server type Apple systems. So there can be different interpertations on this. Don't just jump and saying "NOOOOO" or saying "YEAAAH", grow up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 Maybe AMD will be used in their iTV product? I think it'd be safe to say that Apple would use Intel's Viiv instead of an AMD "Fusion" in iTV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobNyc Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Well I thought AMD was better than Intel until just now ??? Even in all the games AMD seemed better and even for Linux so why not for OSX, but we'll see if it ccompetes with Conroe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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