BlackyG Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 FYI, I've created a new irc channel for this great project at irc.macpseak.net - #AppleHDA Would be nice to chitchat there about your success/failure of the latest AppleHDA Patcher build, etc... Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipttees Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 hey folks ... I've made a kind of "repository" with all the dumps i've found here ... if you need a dump, go there : http://psykopat.free.fr/apple/AppleHDA/ ;-) ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe75 Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 if you need a dump, go there :http://psykopat.free.fr/apple/AppleHDA/ Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pRoFeSSiOnAl Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Hi Taruga ... here my codec dump from the Asus P5B Deluxe: Codec: Analog Devices AD1988B Address: 0 Vendor Id: 0x11d4198b Subsystem Id: 0x104381f6 Revision Id: 0x100200 Default PCM: rates 0x7ff, bits 0x0e, types 0x1 Default Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Default Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x27, nsteps=0x27, stepsize=0x05, mute=0 Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x30311: Stereo Digital PCM: rates 0x7e0, bits 0x0e, types 0x5 Connection: 1 0x1d Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x405: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x27, nsteps=0x27, stepsize=0x05, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x27 0x27] Power: 0x0 Node 0x04 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x405: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x27, nsteps=0x27, stepsize=0x05, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x1b 0x1b] Power: 0x0 Node 0x05 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x405: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x27, nsteps=0x27, stepsize=0x05, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Power: 0x0 Node 0x06 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x405: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x27, nsteps=0x27, stepsize=0x05, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Power: 0x0 Node 0x07 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x130391: Stereo Digital PCM: rates 0x7e0, bits 0x0e, types 0x5 Connection: 1 0x1c Node 0x08 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100501: Stereo Power: 0x0 Connection: 1 0x0c Node 0x09 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100501: Stereo Power: 0x0 Connection: 1 0x0d Node 0x0a [Audio Output] wcaps 0x405: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x27, nsteps=0x27, stepsize=0x05, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Power: 0x0 Node 0x0b [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300301: Stereo Digital Connection: 3 0x08* 0x09 0x0f Node 0x0c [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x27, nsteps=0x36, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0xa7 0xa7] Connection: 10 0x38 0x39* 0x3a 0x3b 0x3c 0x18 0x24 0x25 0x3d 0x20 Node 0x0d [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x27, nsteps=0x36, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0xa7 0xa7] Connection: 10 0x38 0x39* 0x3a 0x3b 0x3c 0x18 0x24 0x25 0x3d 0x20 Node 0x0e [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x27, nsteps=0x36, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0xa7 0xa7] Connection: 10 0x38 0x39* 0x3a 0x3b 0x3c 0x18 0x24 0x25 0x3d 0x20 Node 0x0f [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100501: Stereo Power: 0x0 Connection: 1 0x0e Node 0x10 [beep Generator Widget] wcaps 0x70000c: Mono Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x0f, nsteps=0x0f, stepsize=0x0b, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00] Node 0x11 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x08373f: IN OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x02214030: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Front Conn = 1/8, Color = Green Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP Connection: 1 0x22 Node 0x12 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x081373f: IN OUT HP EAPD Detect Pin Default 0x01014010: [Jack] Line Out at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Green Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 1 0x29 Node 0x13 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40010c: Mono Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00] Pincap 0x0810: OUT Pin Default 0x511711f0: [N/A] Speaker at Int Rear Conn = Analog, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 1 0x2d Node 0x14 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80] Pincap 0x08373f: IN OUT HP Detect Pin Default 0x02a19022: [Jack] Mic at Ext Front Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN Connection: 1 0x2b Node 0x15 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80] Pincap 0x0813737: IN OUT EAPD Detect Pin Default 0x01813021: [Jack] Line In at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Blue Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN Connection: 1 0x2c Node 0x16 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x083737: IN OUT Detect Pin Default 0x01011012: [Jack] Line Out at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 1 0x2a Node 0x17 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40098d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x80 0x80] Pincap 0x083737: IN OUT Detect Pin Default 0x01a19020: [Jack] Mic at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN Connection: 1 0x26 Node 0x18 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400001: Stereo Pincap 0x0820: IN Pin Default 0x9933112e: [Fixed] CD at Int ATAPI Conn = ATAPI, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN Node 0x19 [Power Widget] wcaps 0x500500: Mono Power: 0x0 Connection: 2 0x20* 0x21 Node 0x1a [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400000: Mono Pincap 0x0820: IN Pin Default 0x918711f0: [Fixed] Line In at Int Rear Conn = Analog, Color = Black Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN Node 0x1b [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40030d: Stereo Digital Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x27, nsteps=0x27, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x27 0x27] Pincap 0x0810: OUT Pin Default 0x0145f1f0: [Jack] SPDIF Out at Ext Rear Conn = Optical, Color = Other Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 1 0x02 Node 0x1c [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40020b: Stereo Digital Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-In vals: Pincap 0x0820: IN Pin Default 0x41c5f1f0: [N/A] SPDIF In at Ext Rear Conn = Optical, Color = Other Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN Node 0x1d [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200303: Stereo Digital Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Connection: 2 0x01 0x0b Node 0x1e [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200103: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] Connection: 2 0x36 0x21 Node 0x1f [Volume Knob Widget] wcaps 0x600080: Mono Node 0x20 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20010b: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x15 0x15] [0x80 0x80] Connection: 8 0x39 0x33 0x38 0x3d 0x34 0x3b 0x18 0x1a Node 0x21 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x9f 0x9f] Connection: 1 0x20 Node 0x22 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200103: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Connection: 2 0x37 0x21 Node 0x23 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00100: Mono Connection: 18 0x11* 0x12 0x13 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x17 0x18 0x24 0x25 0x38 0x39 0x3a 0x3b 0x3c 0x3d 0x20 0x21 Node 0x24 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40098d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x0837: IN OUT Detect Pin Default 0x01016011: [Jack] Line Out at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Orange Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 1 0x27 Node 0x25 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40018d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Pincap 0x0837: IN OUT Detect Pin Default 0x01012013: [Jack] Line Out at Ext Rear Conn = 1/8, Color = Grey Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Connection: 1 0x28 Node 0x26 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200103: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] Connection: 2 0x32 0x21 Node 0x27 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200103: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] Connection: 2 0x05 0x21 Node 0x28 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200103: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] Connection: 2 0x0a 0x21 Node 0x29 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200103: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x00 0x00] [0x00 0x00] Connection: 2 0x04 0x21 Node 0x2a [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200103: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] Connection: 2 0x06 0x21 Node 0x2b [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200103: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] Connection: 2 0x30 0x21 Node 0x2c [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200103: Stereo Amp-In Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x00, stepsize=0x00, mute=1 Amp-In vals: [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] Connection: 2 0x31 0x21 Node 0x2d [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x200100: Mono Connection: 1 0x1e Node 0x2e [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono Node 0x2f [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00100: Mono Connection: 6 0x11* 0x12 0x14 0x15 0x16 0x17 Node 0x30 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo Connection: 3 0x03* 0x04 0x06 Node 0x31 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo Connection: 2 0x04* 0x0a Node 0x32 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo Connection: 2 0x05* 0x04 Node 0x33 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo Connection: 3 0x3a* 0x25 0x24 Node 0x34 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo Connection: 3 0x3c* 0x25 0x24 Node 0x35 [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono Node 0x36 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo Connection: 3 0x03 0x04* 0x06 Node 0x37 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300101: Stereo Connection: 3 0x03 0x04* 0x06 Node 0x38 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 1 0x11 Node 0x39 [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 1 0x14 Node 0x3a [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 1 0x15 Node 0x3b [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 1 0x16 Node 0x3c [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 1 0x17 Node 0x3d [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30010d: Stereo Amp-Out Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x27, mute=0 Amp-Out vals: [0x00 0x00] Connection: 1 0x12 maybe it helps you!? 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Lagmac Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 (edited) Hi Taruga. How are you ? I am demoralized. This is my codec dump from Ubuntu codec.txt, for my laptop Acer Travel mate 4220 wmli with Intel 82801G ICH 7 controller and ALC883. I have installed it with your AppleHDApatcher V. 1.10. Now i can see all controllers for the audio, like internal speaker, incorporated and external mic, headphones, and i can set the volume and the input level. (if i speak the input level bar, into System Preferences Audio window, move up and down) But, no sound out from the speaker or headphones. My version of OSX is 10.4.8 kernel 8.8.1 Where i mistake ? Can you help me ? Regards. Lagmac Edited February 2, 2007 by Lagmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dionysossss Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 hi taruga, do you need codec dump for adi ad1988a? Unfortunately I dont know how to make a codec dump If you need I can try to learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruga Posted February 2, 2007 Author Share Posted February 2, 2007 hi taruga,do you need codec dump for adi ad1988a? Unfortunately I dont know how to make a codec dump If you need I can try to learn I already have it, thanx anyway Hi Taruga. How are you ? I am demoralized. This is my codec dump from Ubuntu codec.txt, for my laptop Acer Travel mate 4220 wmli with Intel 82801G ICH 7 controller and ALC883. I have installed it with your AppleHDApatcher V. 1.10. Now i can see all controllers for the audio, like internal speaker, incorporated and external mic, headphones, and i can set the volume and the input level. (if i speak the input level bar, into System Preferences Audio window, move up and down) But, no sound out from the speaker or headphones. My version of OSX is 10.4.8 kernel 8.8.1 Where i mistake ? Can you help me ? Regards. Lagmac Did you try the one SkippyRetard made for ALC883 ? Did it had the same result ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zef Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Taruga, output works fine but still no mixer control for the microphone which is detected as name 'Unknown' and empty port. My codec is a 9223 soldered onto an Intel D945GNTLR board You Rock! Bye, zef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndoe2k4 Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Taruga, I emailed you my AppleHDA extension after I patched it with 1.10b. Please check your email. thanks, JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalK Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 how do I figure out which sigmatel card I have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicko_029 Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 I have Asus P5W DH Deluxe (Realtek ALC882M) and 10.4.7 installed (update from 10.4.6). I read that the kext depends on kernel, which patcher and which soundfix should I use?? Thx a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackyG Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 how do I figure out which sigmatel card I have? You can check via Windows or Linux. search for your devid,venid in google/etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 anyone is having ADI1985 (P4P800SE) codec? does it work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagmac Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Did you try the one SkippyRetard made for ALC883 ? Did it had the same result ? Yes. I have tried before. Same result. Another question. In System Profiler under Audio i read only this : hda_compatible_hardware: hda_avaible_devices: Now i try with AppleAzalia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avenger Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 hey taruga does this patch work on asrock conroe????............ what i mean is ; is it worth trying???(if it is i wold like to give it a shot)............or do u need to add the support yet?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiTRiP Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 (edited) depends which audio chip you have....not which mobo/cpu I think Taruga is pretty clear in his first post. Edited February 3, 2007 by BiTRiP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avenger Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 no... but i think there is some problem with ALC888 on conroe(ICH7) channel............ i believe on other ALC888 chip it work fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaemonES Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 BiTRiP it depends which mobo do you have. Vendor can use another GPIO pins of codec, thats why ASRock users couldn't get ALC888 working with AppleHDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 no1 can grab the codec dump of ADI1985 from ASUS P4P800? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjduro Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 I already have it, thanx anyway Hi Taruga, I'm still fiddling around with my Asus F3JC' Realtek ALC861. I've managed to get a dump from a working Ubuntu 6.10 distro (very nice with XGL working ), but when I apply it to your patcher - v1.08 to v1.10b - I get a kernel panic warning and have to reboot... any ideas? I use Semthex's 8.8.1 kernel Thanks, jjduro (Portugal) Here's the ALC861/660 dump for Asus F3Jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruga Posted February 3, 2007 Author Share Posted February 3, 2007 Yes. I have tried before. Same result. That´s what I thought.... It will need some 'tweaks' Another question. In System Profiler under Audio i read only this : hda_compatible_hardware: hda_avaible_devices: Now i try with AppleAzalia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor486 Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 I tried with new patcher but no sound....the card is recognized and I can see the correct devices (Internal speakers,headphone,lineout) but no sound.... Taruga, what's the meaning of hp line in taruga.ini? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taruga Posted February 3, 2007 Author Share Posted February 3, 2007 I tried with new patcher but no sound....the card is recognized and I can see the correct devices (Internal speakers,headphone,lineout) but no sound.... Taruga, what's the meaning of hp line in taruga.ini? hp = headphones Hi Taruga,I'm still fiddling around with my Asus F3JC' Realtek ALC861. I've managed to get a dump from a working Ubuntu 6.10 distro (very nice with XGL working ), but when I apply it to your patcher - v1.08 to v1.10b - I get a kernel panic warning and have to reboot... any ideas? I use Semthex's 8.8.1 kernel Thanks, jjduro (Portugal) Here's the ALC861/660 dump for Asus F3Jc ALC881 is not working yet, but the kernel problems you´re having, other users reported and one thing in common is semthex kernel, don´t know why.... I´m using Daemon´s or Mifki´s kernel hey taruga does this patch work on asrock conroe????............ what i mean is ; is it worth trying???(if it is i wold like to give it a shot)............or do u need to add the support yet?? Not working yet, alc888 on asrock conroe is a special case that will need an extra change for it to work. I will take a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 hey folks ... I've made a kind of "repository" with all the dumps i've found here ... if you need a dump, go there : http://psykopat.free.fr/apple/AppleHDA/ ;-) could u find the ADI1985? im not having Ubuntu thanx again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackyG Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 (edited) Ok, some good news! Thanks to the quick tests we (Taruga, cosmo1t and me) did at the new project channel #AppleHDA (macspeak), there's some very good progress. Sigmatel 9200 aka STAC9200_83847690 works! Internal Speakers + HeadPhones - works Microphone - works Output volume controls - works Wait for the full version of AppleHDA Patcher (1.10 should be out 2mrw) by Taruga. That's all for now, c'ya all in #AppleHDA channel at irc.macspeak.net Edited February 3, 2007 by BlackyG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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