newsman1 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 great work my friend very easy to use i was wondering if it is possible some how that within TINU that we can chose the file system to install (HFS+ or APFS) because with sierra and up and if you have SSD it will install with APFS file system. and for me i like to use the HFS+ file system or if there is a way to do that thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITzTravelInTime Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, newsman1 said: great work my friend very easy to use i was wondering if it is possible some how that within TINU that we can chose the file system to install (HFS+ or APFS) because with sierra and up and if you have SSD it will install with APFS file system. and for me i like to use the HFS+ file system or if there is a way to do that thanks you cannot choose which file system will install the bootable usb drive you create, because tinu uses just the command line method to create usb drive and that method does not allows to chosse if eneble or not the automatic apfs convert in the usb installer, but you have several ways to do avoid that, first of all there is an option in tinu 2 which is enabled by default which creates a copy of tinu inside the usb installer, and after you have booted into the installer you can open tinu using the terminal with the following command: "/Volumes/Image Volume/TINU.app/Contents/TINU" . when tinu is opened you can use it to install mac os and inside the advanced options you find also an option to disable the automatic apfs upgrade, the other method is to use the unsolid kext, which is a kext that lets macOS to belive that you are not installing on an ssd, so it will not upgrade to apfs. For all of you guys remember that if you open tinu from the booted installer you can use it to install macOS without apfs upgrade 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsman1 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 thank you very much for the tip i will try that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al6042 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 There is also the option to use the Unsolid.kext to prevent the APFS filesystem on SSDs. This kext was created by @Brumbaer and works like a charm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsman1 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 so just put this kext at EFI/CLOVER/kexts/Other. on the Install macOS High Sierra USB when I want to do a fresh install it will see my SSD drive as reg hard drive and it will install HFS+ file system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al6042 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Correct, that's the general idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsman1 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 but after the installation is done and high Sierra is up and running is it still see my SSD drive as Reg Hard drive or it will recognized as SSD drive. and do I need to put the UnSolid.kext in the EFI/CLOVER/kexts/Other. in the SSD drive. Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al6042 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 The kext is only used for the install process... You don't have to use it on the EFI-Partition of the SSD afterwards... The SSD will be shown as SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITzTravelInTime Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 4 hours ago, al6042 said: There is also the option to use the Unsolid.kext to prevent the APFS filesystem on SSDs. This kext was created by @Brumbaer and works like a charm. i have also suggested the unsolid kext in my post and it's probably the most simplay way to avoid the apfs conversion on a hackintosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammoune78 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) Hey ItzTravelInTime! I've just found now that TINU require 8Gb USB and no less, even if 7Gb, in my case i create two partitions one for the installer (macOS) and the second for apps and files required after the installation. Now if i have 8Gb USB Stick I create partition 1 with 6,50 Gb and partition 2 with 1,20 Gb. But TINU doesn't see the partition, can you do something please? Edited April 4, 2018 by ammoune78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammoune78 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) I've found another issue, TINU create USB installer but when i boot from it doesn't see the "boot from Install macOS High Sierra", i just tried it two times but same result! Edited April 4, 2018 by ammoune78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsman1 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 23 hours ago, al6042 said: The kext is only used for the install process... You don't have to use it on the EFI-Partition of the SSD afterwards... The SSD will be shown as SSD. Thank you very much my freind that's answer all my qustions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammoune78 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I think it's not related to TINU because same thing with install media command from terminal! So is there a trick for this 10.13.4 Installer to be detected by clover Boot Menu or i'm doing something wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITzTravelInTime Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 hours ago, ammoune78 said: Hey ItzTravelInTime! I've just found now that TINU require 8Gb USB and no less, even if 7Gb, in my case i create two partitions one for the installer (macOS) and the second for apps and files required after the installation. Now if i have 8Gb USB Stick I create partition 1 with 6,50 Gb and partition 2 with 1,20 Gb. But TINU doesn't see the partition, can you do something please? tinu does detects only partitions which can be used with an install media, so at least 8 gb, if it's not shown it's because it's not usable with tinu 28 minutes ago, ammoune78 said: I think it's not related to TINU because same thing with install media command from terminal! So is there a trick for this 10.13.4 Installer to be detected by clover Boot Menu or i'm doing something wrong tinu uses the command line method, probably it can be solved via a future clover update which will support this new frmat of installers, but at the time being you can solve this issue by creating a .IABootFiles folder and you have to put inside of it all the files inside the system folders in the usb key, so you should end up with something like this which should solve the issues at least in my case it did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammoune78 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 It worked, thanks MAN! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITzTravelInTime Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) Reagrding what is happening with macOS 10.13.4 and the usb installers not detected, i have added a new advamced setting to tinu, which is enabled by default if you want to create a bootable usb installer of macOS 10.13.4 and does the procedure i described in the previous post, it creares an .IABootFiles folder and the it copyes all the system files from the usb installer inside the .IABootFiles Folder, a temporary solution which helps until the clover team adds support for 10.13.4 installers, when this support will be added to the latest clover, i will no longer make it enabled by default when such support is added, now this feature is in testing, i will let you know how is it going Edited April 5, 2018 by ITzTravelInTime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITzTravelInTime Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) so, after some thuble shooting the new advanced option works, maybe i can consider tinu as the first mac os installer creation tool which has the 10.13.4 support in it And i have also fixed a bug hich was introduced in the pre-release 2 of tinu 2.0 which i have discovered only now Edited April 5, 2018 by ITzTravelInTime 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matgen84 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 41 minutes ago, ITzTravelInTime said: so, after some thuble shooting the new advanced option works, maybe i can consider tinu as the first mac os installer creation tool which has the 10.13.4 support in it And i have also fixed a bug hich was introduced in the pre-release 2 of tinu 2.0 which i have discovered only now Where I can find new pre-release of Tinu 2.0. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITzTravelInTime Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 Just now, Matgen84 said: Where I can find new pre-release of Tinu 2.0. Thanks look at the orevious posts, i have created one with links to download the app and the source code, but a new one is coming shortly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al6042 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 As far as I know, the removal of the file ".IAPhysicalMedia" should be sufficient. The following lines from the Clover Sourcecode (loader.c) should explain it: // Use standard location for boot.efi, unless the file /.IAPhysicalMedia is present// That file indentifies a 2nd-stage Install Media, so when present, skip standard path to avoid entry duplication if (StriCmp(CustomPath, MACOSX_LOADER_PATH) == 0 && FileExists(Volume->RootDir, L"\\.IAPhysicalMedia")) { DBG("skipped standard OSX path because volume is 2nd stage Install Media\n"); continue; } Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITzTravelInTime Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, al6042 said: As far as I know, the removal of the file ".IAPhysicalMedia" should be sufficient. The following lines from the Clover Sourcecode (loader.c) should explain it: if (StriCmp(CustomPath, MACOSX_LOADER_PATH) == 0 && FileExists(Volume->RootDir, L"\\.IAPhysicalMedia")) { DBG("skipped standard OSX path because volume is 2nd stage Install Media\n"); continue; } ok, i will test this, but i will also keep the option to create the .IABootFiles folder but i will make it disabled by default and i will make another option to remove .IAPhysicalMedia that will be enabled by default, i do this to also leave more freedom to the users to choose a way to fix, but clover team should allow the usb drive to be detected if there is the .IAPhisicalMedia file and not the .IABootFiles folder, to let the "vanilla" usb installer to be detected, or am i wrong? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al6042 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I just create a new Install Stick with TinU (Public) and then try to just rename the file and/or the folder to verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITzTravelInTime Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 Just now, al6042 said: I just create a new Install Stick with TinU (Public) and then try to just rename the file and/or the folder to verify. i tried moving the .IAPhisicalMedia file to another location in a usb installer created with TINU and it's detected by clover and correctly booted, so i can say that removing or moving it works, maybe i will remove it in the code i am going to write for the app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al6042 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Just finished my test, but didn't had to rename or move the hidden file at all. The unmodified install stick was found by the original MBP which I currently use on holiday. Adding Clover in Version 4423, without changing the hidden file, showed the Installer in the Clover bootmenu also. That means, that you shouldn't have to do anything, since the newest Clover sources seems to tackle the already known issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITzTravelInTime Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, al6042 said: Just finished my test, but didn't had to rename or move the hidden file at all. The unmodified install stick was found by the original MBP which I currently use on holiday. Adding Clover in Version 4423, without changing the hidden file, showed the Installer in the Clover bootmenu also. That means, that you shouldn't have to do anything, since the newest Clover sources seems to tackle the already known issue. ok, but i will kepp the 2 options in tinu beause i have already created them, but i will leave them disabled by default and i will just tell to folks using tinu to just upgrade their clover version, thank you very much for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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