jonisign Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Hi all, Us over in the 5960X thread are trying to get that CPU to boot in El Capitan. To date, it seems that no one has successfully used this CPU. To figure out what is going on we want to look at ACPI tables for the 5960X and the 5930K on the same motherboard. Would anyone in this thread who has a 5930K on the Asus X99-E WS be kindly willing to upload their ACPI tables? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeXtor Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 i7-5820k and asus x99-e ws with el capitan, running at 100%? all devices work at 100%? thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWanderer Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Anyone able to get 2 GPUs to work under X99 system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisign Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Anyone able to get 2 GPUs to work under X99 system? Yes, but you won't be able to use them in CrossFire or SLI. They will both be registered by the system though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maleorderbride Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Stinga--I noticed this error in console and have been trying to address it, but it still remains. X86PlatformShim::start - Failed to send stepper Pike states that it is caused by a failure to find the board-id's frequency vectors. I know that the X79 Plugin kext is supposed to be injecting that information, but it does not seem to be working quite right. I also tried to modified the X86PlatforumPlugin manually to ensure that the MacPro Board-ID plist was in there (I stole the one from the X79 plugin), but it still generates this same error. I then tried a iMac14,2 SMBIOS, but no difference in power management. I assume this is part of why we have incomplete power management with Hasewll-EP. For example, turbo states are not reached reliably, nor does a 100% load even result in non-turbo states being flat-lined in IPG. Running Cinebench gives dramatically different scores each time, with mine varying from as low as the 800s, to as high as 1710. Are other people also having this problem? If not, please post your SSDT and config.plist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maleorderbride Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 We use FakeCPUID to have 100% load else we are unstable like and you I am using FakeCPUID, my post comes only after following all of Stinga's guidlines. Do you have the same error? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandrea Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 @maleorderbride: same error on my side. Tried generating SSDT with several different flags (see https://github.com/Piker-Alpha/ssdtPRGen.sh/issues/65 ) but I always get the same message 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maleorderbride Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I guess the question is, does anyone see? X86PlatformShim::sendPStates - Success! X86PlatformShim::sendStepper - Done! If so, then they really have XCPM loaded. I only have it halfway installed. Not using AICPUPM, but not really XCPM. @maleorderbride: same error on my side. Tried generating SSDT with several different flags (see https://github.com/Piker-Alpha/ssdtPRGen.sh/issues/65 ) but I always get the same message Yea, I read that as well when googling last night. However Pike's latest ssdtPRGen doesn't even allow me to make new SSDTs as it no longer allows me to supply all values for CPUs that do not exist on his tables. Too lazy to file a bug report as of yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balamut Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Hey guys, after Vegas craziness I wanted to do some testing and see what I can come up with. What's been tested: Hardware: 5930k on X99-E WS Different variations of SSDT, Clover and versions of Mac. MacPro6,1 gives the best overall graphic performance on the GPU, but the CPU performance is not that great, plus you can actually see some noticeable lag in the UI. iMac17,1 (all models) gives the best CPU performance, but there is a GPU lag and USB's acting up a bit strange (telling me that there is not enough juice to charge a mouse ). So what I end up doing is removing SSDT, and letting Clover do the P/C state injections (v.3338, oddly enough any version prior to that never managed to work on injecting the states.), replaced the the MacPro6,1 ( Mac-F60DEB81FF30ACF6 ) frequency vector with the one from iMac17,1 (i7 version, Mac-65CE76090165799A ), started clover with -xcmp and so far got the best compromise of speed and power. No FakeCPUID is being used. One of the ways I've tested the UI lag is to preview Arabesque screensaver, almost on all of the combinations I've tried it was a 3-4fps slideshow except the last one. My two cents; I know that this is still not a 100% flatline, but it gets close, and considering that it hovers in the overclocked turbo region is good enough for me and I think for most people unless you're doing some heavy CPU lifting e.g Scientific, video, audio I don't think you'd notice (doing compiles on xCode, android and some heavy VMware tasks myself I didn't see the any difference. ) Now since, Geekbench and Cinebench might not be the best to test, I end up testing it with Handbrake in real life situation e.g. converting Full HD mov into Full HD h264 MP4 file, and well... let me pictures speak for themselves. Geekbench: Cinebench: Handbrake: And looking to at sysctl machdep.xcpm and looking at the system log I think XCMP is loaded correctly. Hope this helps someone.....On the side note:USBs are working perfectly without and inject or mods, the only thing needed is up-ing the limit of ports to get 2 more ASM's loaded. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maleorderbride Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Very nice work Balamut! I'll give that a shot somewhere in the nearish future. For now, I have just disabled speestep, which allows me to stay continuously in turbo states and gives me absolute flat lines during renders in IGP. This gives me extremely solid and consistence performance, but obviously everything runs a bit warmer and I am always consuming ~50W+ witht he CPU. ;p Your solution looks like a much better year round application. Thanks for posting that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmano Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Hey guys, after Vegas craziness I wanted to do some testing and see what I can come up with. What's been tested: Hardware: 5930k on X99-E WS Different variations of SSDT, Clover and versions of Mac. MacPro6,1 gives the best overall graphic performance on the GPU, but the CPU performance is not that great, plus you can actually see some noticeable lag in the UI. iMac17,1 (all models) gives the best CPU performance, but there is a GPU lag and USB's acting up a bit strange (telling me that there is not enough juice to charge a mouse ). So what I end up doing is removing SSDT, and letting Clover do the P/C state injections (v.3338, oddly enough any version prior to that never managed to work on injecting the states.), replaced the the MacPro6,1 ( Mac-F60DEB81FF30ACF6 ) frequency vector with the one from iMac17,1 (i7 version, Mac-65CE76090165799A ), started clover with -xcmp and so far got the best compromise of speed and power. No FakeCPUID is being used. One of the ways I've tested the UI lag is to preview Arabesque screensaver, almost on all of the combinations I've tried it was a 3-4fps slideshow except the last one. My two cents; I know that this is still not a 100% flatline, but it gets close, and considering that it hovers in the overclocked turbo region is good enough for me and I think for most people unless you're doing some heavy CPU lifting e.g Scientific, video, audio I don't think you'd notice (doing compiles on xCode, android and some heavy VMware tasks myself I didn't see the any difference. ) Now since, Geekbench and Cinebench might not be the best to test, I end up testing it with Handbrake in real life situation e.g. converting Full HD mov into Full HD h264 MP4 file, and well... let me pictures speak for themselves. Geekbench: GeekbnechClover.jpg Cinebench: CinebenchClover.jpg Handbrake: HandBrakeClover.jpg And looking to at sysctl machdep.xcpm and looking at the system log I think XCMP is loaded correctly. xcpmClover.jpg Hope this helps someone..... On the side note: USBs are working perfectly without and inject or mods, the only thing needed is up-ing the limit of ports to get 2 more ASM's loaded. USBX99.jpg Its look nice but them 62.0 C maybe High. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maleorderbride Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 62C is not high. Anything under 80C is acceptable, anything under 70C is good. (when under full load) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balamut Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 It's under full load, water cooled. I don't thing 62C OC'ed to 4.2 is to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fljagd Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 To get all USB3.0 working you need to use this binary patch and download my X99 injector. Put the injector into the /Library/Extensions theX99 USB3.0.zip Thank à lot I stayed in Mac Pro 5.1 The SpeedsTep function flawlessly I adjusted your kext for my X99-A Usb 3 Operate config.plist.zip X99_Injector.kext.zip DarwinDumper_2.9.9.2_AMI_X64_3346_Cap_Fljagd.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samtimbaud Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Hi all, hi Stinga. sorry maybe for the double post i have a 5820k on X99-A and my bench is low. 4447 - 19937 @ 4.4ghz it's like the OC doesn't works, however i can see the cpu go up and down between x12-x44. i used your FakeCPUID settings if not the cpu is stuck @3.3 (no speedstep). As you can see the single core is not really bad but the multicore is low. i read some 5820k users have around 25000 bench score. what do you think? thanks for you help Info: i'm on Yosemite 10.10.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandrea Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 @samtimbaud: using the configuration suggested by Balamut above (i.e. no fakecpuid, frequency vector from iMac17,1) I get better scores (23k @46x overclock, xcmp). You can get much better scores using other fakeCPUIDs (+ NULLCPU), but the CPU is most of the times stuck at the highest multiplier, resulting in higher temperatures (I reached 29k @47x overclock). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samtimbaud Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Thanks Macandrea for your Answer. i'im thinking to change the motherboard by one i already know, asus deluxe 99. i read on a forum that the X99A was very bad for OC and hard to past 20k with overclocking. look, you have to up the cpu until 4.7hz for only 23000. it's crazy! I let you know this afternoon.. Best, Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashbad Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Using Stinga's method I'm getting a Geekbench score of 3635 / 18137. Using Balamut's method I'm getting 4173 / 18771 5820k OC'd to 4.0 Ghz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samtimbaud Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Using Stinga's method I'm getting a Geekbench score of 3635 / 18137. Using Balamut's method I'm getting 4173 / 18771 5820k OC'd to 4.0 Ghz Same bad scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmybikedrunk Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 How do you change frequency vectors? Thru SMBios in config.plist? @samtimbaud: using the configuration suggested by Balamut above (i.e. no fakecpuid, frequency vector from iMac17,1) I get better scores (23k @46x overclock, xcmp). You can get much better scores using other fakeCPUIDs (+ NULLCPU), but the CPU is most of the times stuck at the highest multiplier, resulting in higher temperatures (I reached 29k @47x overclock). If I overclock using a 100 BCLK, then use NULLCPU El Cap still only recognizes the 3.5Ghz clock. Speedstep aside, how do I get El Cap to run at the highest multiplier? In other words (and I'm not asking for a guide, just basic settings) how to I achieve the last result (29k @4.7Ghz) you mentioned? I've only just started to experiment with El Cap and things like FakeCPUID are all new to me. I really am not concerned with power draw or a bump in temp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandrea Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 @onmybikedrunk here the results I get with two different configuration files, using a 46x max multiplier with BCLK set to 100: config-1.plist: no FakeCPUID, using xcmp config-2.plist: FakeCPUID set to 0x0306e2. NULLCPU I had some stability issues @47x, so I got lower scores than expected (had to boot @46x) - config.plist files attached. Please tell me if you also need to know my BIOS settings. I am using latest 10.11.4 Beta (15E39c). Config_files.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmybikedrunk Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) @onmybikedrunk here the results I get with two different configuration files, using a 46x max multiplier with BCLK set to 100: config-1.plist: no FakeCPUID, using xcmp Screen Shot 2016-02-08 at 22.15.37.png config-2.plist: FakeCPUID set to 0x0306e2. NULLCPU Screen Shot 2016-02-08 at 22.15.53.png I had some stability issues @47x, so I got lower scores than expected (had to boot @46x) - config.plist files attached. Please tell me if you also need to know my BIOS settings. I am using latest 10.11.4 Beta (15E39c). Awesome! This is exactly what I was looking for. Your help is appreciated. As far as BIOS settings for NullCPU I assume you have EIST disabled? EDIT: Actually, yes -- your BIOS settings would be extremely helpful as well. Edited February 8, 2016 by onmybikedrunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandrea Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 @onmybikedrunk Cpu core ratio: sync all cores Asus multicore enhancement: disabled Ai overclock tuner: auto Internal pll overvoltage: enabled Epu power saving mode: disabled EIST: disabled Turbo: enabled Long duration package power limit: 140 Ratio limit: 46 Cpu c-states: enabled EnhAnced c1 state: enable Cpu c3 report:disabled Cpu c6 report:disabled Everything else is set to auto or to the standard Factory value I've used the same settings for both configs. Hope it helps. Andrea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmybikedrunk Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 @onmybikedrunk Cpu core ratio: sync all cores Asus multicore enhancement: disabled Ai overclock tuner: auto Internal pll overvoltage: enabled Epu power saving mode: disabled EIST: disabled Turbo: enabled Long duration package power limit: 140 Ratio limit: 46 Cpu c-states: enabled EnhAnced c1 state: enable Cpu c3 report:disabled Cpu c6 report:disabled Everything else is set to auto or to the standard Factory value I've used the same settings for both configs. Hope it helps. Andrea Awesome. Thanks a ton. I haven't really paid much attention to El Capitan because previously I had a 5960X which I swapped out for a 5930K to have an updatable system. I'm sure this will help others too, not just me. So thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandrea Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 @onmybikedrunk in order to change frequency vectors you can use Piker Alpha freqVectorsEdit.sh. You can find it at https://github.com/Piker-Alpha/freqVectorsEdit.sh. Changing to iMac17,1 really makes the difference for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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