atlantisman87bis Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Hello, i'm a french men, so apologized me for my English please My problem: i've 3 virtualbax machie : one with Snow Leopard, one with Lion, one with Moutain Lion All has been made on an HP with core i7 2x (Sandy Bridge) and run with Virtualbox 4.3 i've bougth an Asus x750 with core i7 4x (Haswell) and the 3 virtual machine stuck at the beginning of the start process is someone know why and propose me a solution please ? thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
gils83 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 salut la France !! sur quoi coinces tu ? hi the France! whereupon Coinces you? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1974974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hello, pour les machines Snow et Lion, à l'arrivée de la ligne Darwin X86 (démarage en mode verbose) j'ai l'écran de 'Guru Mediation' Pour Moutain lion je reste coincé sur le ligne avec Boot arg= boot-uil:<une chaine de caractère> rd=*uuid darkwake=0 -v voilà, merci de ton aide en sachant que j'ai dans tous les cas un bootloader Chameleon avec 'Darwin /x86 boot v5.0.132 - Chimera v1.11.1 r1394' Hi, for the virtual machine with Snox Leopard or Lion, in verbose mode, i obtain a screen called 'Guru Meidation' after displaying the Darwin X86 message On the Moutain Lion virtual machin, i stucked at the line : Boot arg= boot-uil:<a chain of caracters> rd=*uuid darkwake=0 -v thanks for your help, i've in all case a booloader Chameleon with 'Darwin /x86 boot v5.0.132 - Chimera v1.11.1 r1394' Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PippoX0 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Did you enabled VT-X Virtualization in Bios ?? Windows 8.1 seems to give some issues to run VirtualBox and OSX guest. Try to figure out which are the difference (HW and SW ) between the first PC (in which OSXs Virtualized run inside Virtualbox) and the second in which you get some troubles to boot ... See ya Hint : See my Topic "OS X Mavericks in VirtualBox" Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 hi, i've Microsoft XP and Microsoft Server 2012 image running without problem on my Asus, and i've be back on the same Windows seven on the Asus than the HP what did you mean by HW and SW please ? thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PippoX0 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hi, Ok you have same software SW and same hardware HW in the two Pc. If you are able to run other Vm , the problem seems to be in Osx Guest. Try to start with Efi option enable in virtualbox setting Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 hi the main difference is on the hardwware, the old Pc was a Corei7 23xx and the new is Corei7 4xxx i've try on Snow Leopard, Lion, Mountain Lion and i upload screen copy of result, in lion and mountain lion case the boot process is stuck thanks for you help Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I am not a VirtualBox expert, but have done a lot of work on VMware. The problem we found on VMware was Snow Leopard & Lion does not support Haswell processors out of the box. SL & Lion - no Haswell support ML - 10.8.5+ You may need to find 3rd party kernels to make this work. The alternative we found in VMware was the ability to configure CPUID settings to fake the processor to look like an earlier one that is supported. I am pretty sure there is that capability in VB. I will have a look at the source code, but you guys may have to test as I do not have anything to test his on. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hello Donk, thanks for your reply. I'm not an expert on VB so i don't know how to configure CPUID settings. is it in the configuration file ? or did you know were ? another idea, is it possible to tranform my VB machine on VMware player and do the fake in VMware? thanks hello again, i've to inform you that my Mountain Lion is 10.8.4, and i'm not sure that i could upgrade this in my old PC. maybe i could to that and transfert the image resulting in the haswell pc ? thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hello Donk, thanks for your reply. I'm not an expert on VB so i don't know how to configure CPUID settings. is it in the configuration file ? or did you know were ? another idea, is it possible to tranform my VB machine on VMware player and do the fake in VMware? thanks I believe it is a config file change called HostCPUID but I am still reading about it. As for moving VB to Player, you can't really do this as the virtual hardware is different, but you can certainly run those versions of OS X on Player using my unlocker. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Well donk, if it's possible to still in VB, i prefer because all my machine will be managed in the same software. but i m interresting on your unlocker for VMware, because i know this player and certainly using it could be a good experience thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 So can you run this command from a command prompt on both machines and post the output? VBoxManage.exe list hostcpuids Example output: C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox>VBoxManage.exe list hostcpuids Host CPUIDs: Leaf no. EAX EBX ECX EDX 00000000 0000000d 756e6547 6c65746e 49656e69 00000001 000206d7 00010800 9eba2223 0fabfbff 00000002 76035a01 00f0b2ff 00000000 00ca0000 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000004 00000121 01c0003f 0000003f 00000000 00000005 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000006 00000077 00000002 00000009 00000000 00000007 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000008 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000009 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000000a 07300403 00000000 00000000 00000603 0000000b 00000000 00000001 00000100 00000000 0000000c 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000000d 00000007 00000340 00000340 00000000 0000000e 00000007 00000340 00000340 00000000 80000000 80000008 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000001 00000000 00000000 00000001 28100800 80000002 20202020 49202020 6c65746e 20295228 80000003 6e6f6558 20295228 20555043 322d3545 80000004 20303736 20402030 30362e32 007a4847 80000005 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000006 00000000 00000000 01006040 00000000 80000007 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000100 80000008 00003028 00000000 00000000 00000000 80000009 00000007 00000340 00000340 00000000 It may then be possible to fake the CPUID settings using modifyvm command to match the working system. No guarantees but I think it is worth a shot. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 hi, here is the result on the Haswell PC Host CPUIDs: Leaf no. EAX EBX ECX EDX00000000 0000000d 756e6547 6c65746e 49656e6900000001 000306c3 07100800 7ffafbbf bfebfbff00000002 76036301 00f0b5ff 00000000 00c1000000000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000000000000004 1c004121 01c0003f 0000003f 0000000000000005 00000040 00000040 00000003 0004212000000006 00000077 00000002 00000009 0000000000000007 00000000 000027ab 00000000 0000000000000008 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000000000000009 00000000 00000000 00000000 000000000000000a 07300403 00000000 00000000 000006030000000b 00000001 00000002 00000100 000000070000000c 00000000 00000000 00000000 000000000000000d 00000007 00000340 00000340 000000000000000e 00000007 00000340 00000340 0000000080000000 80000008 00000000 00000000 0000000080000001 00000000 00000000 00000021 2c10080080000002 65746e49 2952286c 726f4320 4d54286580000003 37692029 3037342d 20514830 2055504380000004 2e322040 48473034 0000007a 0000000080000005 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000000080000006 00000000 00000000 01006040 0000000080000007 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000010080000008 00003027 00000000 00000000 0000000080000009 00000007 00000340 00000340 00000000 i ll try to do it on the old PC this saturday, i've give at a friend actually, but perhaps with this data you could help me thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Hi, i've try to create a new virtual machine with the hackboot method find here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaqmCsUp_HM and i 'm stucking at one point, see picture. if it s could help you thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 i ll try to do it on the old PC this saturday, i've give at a friend actually, but perhaps with this data you could help me thanks Actually the old machine output is the more important. If you can get the data it would help a lot, but I will take a look at weekend and try and figure something out. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 hello, i've obtain the same list on the old pc, see the document please hoping to have good news thanks old.txt Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 hello, i've obtain the same list on the old pc, see the document please hoping to have good news thanks Thanks for that. I have a test system at work and will try out the modifyvm idea in the morning (UK) time. Update: If you want to try this now I have a test command for you to try. VBoxManage modifyvm <vmname> --cpuidset 1 000206a7 02100800 1fbae3bf bfebfbff 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Hi YOU RE A GENIUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS my Moutain Lion virtual Machine run now, very weel, wifi, app store now i ve to find how change the resolution (1366*724) and the sound is not detected but i m downloading actually the Maverick update, so after i ll clone my machine and try to upgrade on the new one to eventually obtain a 10.9 image eventually is it possible to run the same modifyvm on the other machine (snow and lion )? thankssssssssssssssssss hi again, i've try with success the same on my snow leopard no sound no memory detect on system information so i can't download the maverick update but it s cool thankssssssssssssssss Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 Hi again, on my Lion virtual machine, the process of Boot is running but i m crashing on another point, see the printscreen please So now i ll plan to clone my Mountain Lion machine where i've download the Maverick update try to change the resolution in the extra/plist file to 1440*900 and run the new machine run the maverick update cross finger hoping on a good result and in all way, i've to upgrade the memory on my hasweel pc (it s 6Gb now, normally block at 8Gb but i ll try to put 16Gb) and replace de 5400 rpm hard drive by a ssd to speed up virtualbox and virtual image thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 Hi, i've try to modify the file org.chameleon.Boot.plist in my /extra directory replacing the 1366*768 with 1440*900 or 1600*900 and in fact i obtain a resolution of 1152*864 i ve to fin a solution because my hasweel laptop is a 17 inch with capacity of 1600*900 have you and idea please ? thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 hi i've modifiy the .vbox and the cameleon.plist file as describe in the tiger vm tutorial and i obtain 1440*900 i ll try 1600*900 and cross my fingers !! so still the sound in ML ? and create a maveriks vm thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Hi YOU RE A GENIUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS my Moutain Lion virtual Machine run now, very weel, wifi, app store now i ve to find how change the resolution (1366*724) and the sound is not detected but i m downloading actually the Maverick update, so after i ll clone my machine and try to upgrade on the new one to eventually obtain a 10.9 image eventually is it possible to run the same modifyvm on the other machine (snow and lion )? thankssssssssssssssssss hi again, i've try with success the same on my snow leopard no sound no memory detect on system information so i can't download the maverick update but it s cool thankssssssssssssssss Pleased that it worked. Basically we told VB on the new machine to present the old CPU type to the VM. Sorry but I can't help with the other questions as I don't run VB. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PippoX0 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Good trick !! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 hi, i've create an iso file with mavericks Under my virtual machine, how transfert it to Windows host? thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantisman87bis Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 hi again, i ve found how connect my vm to my host by smb,, thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/294504-virtualbox-sllml-and-core-i7-hasweel/#findComment-1975636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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