ameris_cyning Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Ok, I use Clover. I love it completely It is the best damn boot loader out there. I think its good enough that Linux distros should abandon GRUB in favor of Clover. And, as for the TonyMac program, this is not a thread for support. That boot loader exists and to ignore its large install base would be skewing reality. Edited to be more specific 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slayer2333 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I use both (Clover AND Chameleon), the reason is that i move back and forth to use Linux as well (some troubles getting Linux Mint to boot in UEFI mode on my MSI HM87 motherboard). I love both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Frio Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Hi ... I have...chameleon.clover efi and other chameleon based.. c.frio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith@@™ Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 More or less all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Vandijck Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'm a Clover guy. That booter is most flexible and boots in both legacy and UEFI mode. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirone Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I use Clover for me is the best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badeendje Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Chameleon hands down, been using it since the early versions. It simply continues to work and it's documented very well (which is important to me). Tried clover a few times but never got it working quite right. Maybe in a few months I'll give it a new try when I'm more comfortable with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Freeman Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'm really happy with Ozmosis on my Z68. It doesn't work on my X79 so I have Chameleon on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ameris_cyning Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 Results so far are interesting. The pool is still small, tho, so I won't take it seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 There is no absolute solution for Hackintosh so one flew east, one flew west, one flew over the cuckoo's nest 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apianti Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 .....I'm probably some what biased...... But also UEFI is like five percent of the boot time for me compared with legacy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Chameleon always been very good to me, very easy and functional. But Clover is great, with functions that leaving the Hack much closer to a MacReal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjayviper Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Results so far are interesting. The pool is still small, tho, so I won't take it seriously I don't expect a large number of respondents from this community. some may read the thread but completely ignore the poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Vermelho Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 47 votes is not bad. People are probably just too busy with their own issues to stop by and vote in a boot loader poll...I'm a moderator at VoodooProjects so it would be weird if I wasn't using Chameleon as my primary boot loader.Chameleon development has slowed down this year due to the departure of some key developers, but it has not been abandoned.The recent smbios additions by Bungo and Ermac are really cool....but Chameleon has a handful of long standing (although minor) bugs that nobody seems to be interested in looking at.I'm staying with Chameleon until I require a feature that it doesn't provide. /EDIT and now we have BitShoveler on the team as well fixing bugs.. rock'n roll guys /EDIT I tried Clover for the first time, it's very impressive! Armed with the Clover wiki and Clover Configurator I didn't have any trouble replicating my Chameleon settings and having it boot my present install from a flash drive. There were no issues that I could find. Still, like I said, at this time I don't need any of the things that Clover does that Chameleon can't do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimentel Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 HelloClover, it's the best, I can do many things only editing my config.plist in Chameleon I would have to install additional kexts, in Clover I only inject them by config.plist ...I can turn my PC into an Apple Computer with Clover(almost)...Not to mention that I can make my system updates via AppStore, with Chameleon this isn't possible ...I'm not trying to belittle the Chameleon, because it was my first bootloader and is very easy to setup and use, but Clover is ... better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe75 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I personally don't care much about a "boot manager" and if it wasn't for injection features I doubt many others would either. I was lucky enough to be around to see and test the development of most. I'm a little old school in thinking support should come from kexts and I've never really had to use many of the options available in our booters. But I've tried every single one of them (some not listed here) expect for osmosis. I voted for Clover because it has the most features and development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyolc8 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I tried both clover and chameleon. I really like clover functions that make osx running more like on a real mac. BUT, Clover hangs on blank screen 10-15sec before bootmenu/osxbootscreen appears. I think this is because clover loads the UEFI emulation layer on top of my old BIOS. Also I can't make boot resolution bigger than stretched 1024x768, tried every fixes, on-the-fly gpu bios patching, and other stuff. So these two things made me stay on chameleon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanwinkel Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Ozmosis rocks. I have ozmosis running with a gigabyte z87x-ud3h works like a charm. Even windows 8.1 booting standalone and thru parallels. Running osx 10.9.2 beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neso Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I was chameleon man myself with i5-2500, until i got six core 1366 socket ES CPU. Chameleon didn't work as it should...no turbo, low multi no matter what.Tried with ssdt, no go. For the last time before giving up, i tried clover and never looked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdant Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 IMHO both Clover and Chameleon deserve their place side by side for UEFI and BIOS MOBOs, respectively (notwithstanding the fact that Clover can boot both legacy BIOS and UEFI modes).....I will stay with Chameleon until it no longer provides a feature I need, or until I am forced to get a UEFI MOBO...... BUT my circa 2007 BIOS / DDR2 Asus P5N32-E SLI Plus MOBO still refuses to die..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Old users have a bootloader that works from that time. Novices uses bootloader that provided by xxxbeast, iatkos etc. And only expert users with new hackintoshes may choose a bootloader. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion71au Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I have an old hackintosh and started off with chameleon but chose to move to Clover for its superior featureset and native EFI environment. An important consideration for many users is dual booting with an existing install of Windows. For older BIOS based machines that have legacy Windows installed on MBR drives, its often easier to use Chameleon (and depending on the machine, sometimes Clover will have difficulty booting legacy Windows). On my laptop, I reinstalled Windows in UEFI mode so that I could use Clover . For newer machines with UEFI firmware and UEFI Windows on GPT formatted drives, its a no brainer decision to use Clover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTC Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Even I have a UEFI mobo I use Chameleon............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 It used to be Chameleon for me,then I switched to Clover once I found out how it's much more versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copil Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Clover lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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