megavolkan Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 A while ago i upgraded my system to a D820 processor, P965 MS?, 9700GT etc. Now i can't start installing from DVD (x86 10.4.5), gives an error like: /com.apple.Boot.plist not found Then i pressed keys randomly and when i pressed F8 a screen appeared that says ... (bla bla bla) HDD (159.0) Ethernet PXE Client ... and no selectible options. I disabled onboard Ethernet nothing changed. Previously i was able to install with same DVD and same SATA drive. Any opinions? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
souled Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I'm getting the same thing. When I boot from the DVD, I get the 'boot.plist cannot be found' error. I can push F8 and can type in the -v flag, but the same error occurs. I know it's not the DVD because it seems to load on my friends computer and my other computer... I think the main difference is that I'm using a SATA HDD. I have an ASUS P5W DH Deluxe mobo. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-202594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megavolkan Posted October 5, 2006 Author Share Posted October 5, 2006 But i could install on a SATA disk before with my 865 chip mobo. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-202596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceynox Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I get the same error all the time, only i have a laptop (BenQ 5001U)... so i can't make drastic hardware changes. I searched the forum and it seems that is has to do something with the chipset, it should be cureable, but from what i read only through installation through vmware. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-202680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
souled Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Can anyone help with this? I've tried two different DVDs. I tried the 10.4.6 ISO by JaS, and I tried the 10.4.7 ISO by HotISO (converted the DMG on a Mac). Firstly, when I burn the DVDs and I load them in a computer, the explorer says the disk is 184 kb. This is with both images and burned with two different computers. Same thing if I mount the image using Alcohol 120%; it still says 184 kb. The DVDs work in other systems, so it has to be my hardware. I checked on the HCL, and I believe my stuff is supported. Here's what I have: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe Intel Core 2 Extreme Corsair 2x1GB DDR2 800 WD 250GB SATA HDD XFX 7900 GS Hauppauge PVR 150 I tried the JaS DVD in VMware, but that only produced the same error. I am able to see some text, but then it locks up and I get an error from VMware. After I try again, I just get the boot.plist error. After doing a bit of searching, I've noticed this problem is fairly common, but I don't know what to do. Any help is appreciated. PS sorry megavolken for kind of hi-jacking your thread, but we have the same problem so I thought I'd post here. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 the explorer says the disk is 184 kb There are two sections on the DVD. A small partition that contains boot files and a large partition that contains the OSX OS and installer files. The boot files partition is in a format that Windows can read. That is because the BIOS needs that format in order to read the boot files. The rest of the DVD is formatted in Mac HFS+ format and Windows cannot read that without a 3rd party software. The 184 kb are the boot files. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
souled Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Ah, I see. So atleast now I know that my DVDs are working. I remember my friend saying the OS must be installed on the primary HDD. I can't remember which method he tried, but he tried installing on a secondary HDD and things went wrong. Is this true? I looked in my BIOS and noticed that my drive is labeled as the Third Primary drive. There are spaces for First Primary, First Slave, Third Primary, Third Slave, Fourth Primary, and Fourth Slave. There isn't a Second Primary and Second Slave (maybe it's the CD-roms?). Anyhow, could this be a source of error? I'm pretty sure I plugged in the drive to the right SATA port, although I suppose I could be mistaken. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mMiniImManN Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 [Errr, I had a nice post/reply going, hit the crtl + w and closed the tab... here goes again...] The file not found issue, would it not be a problem with the disk itself? I know a way around it is by launching the motherboard's onboard boot menu (I love repeating myself), [it's an F# key pressed at the time you would normally press DEL to enter the BIOS...] it's commenly different on all boards, and some doen't even support it (like, as far as I know, the Abit AB9 series). Using this boot menu, you select the dvdrom device, it should boot to the dvd liquidly... (even to a bummed OS even). I've tried this on an ASUS A8N-E board (worked perfect using the bootmenu) but not on my ABit AB9 board (it for some reason doesn't support a boot menu!! ARG!). So, it has to be something to do with how the dvd recognizes itself (or rather, how darwin recognizes itself, and boots). My question, is could there not be some work around developed to load into, then tell it to boot from the mac side of the DVD? Think of the ol' Win9x boot floppies.. insert one of those and boot into DOS with cd-rom support; then browse to the windows folder on a setup cd and launch the installer app manually (yes, for those that don't know, it works even in XP). I tried hunting down a simple booter for darwin, but was unsuccessful, the website was down last I checked (the open darwin one). Any ideas? Would be a big help, even to those who have the OS isntalled and are unable to boot. Ok, I found the last place this issue was posted on, I reread it and saw a post I forgot about.. retailer posted that there's problems with the JMicron chip and drivers, ect... I know my abit has this for ide and some of the sata devices, but as far as I know the asus board doesn't use this chip at all; so it's gotta be an issue with drivers... any way a more generic raid ide/sata driver might be loaded to the install disk to add support? But still doesn't offer a reason why the boot menu surpasses the problems.. hmpf, it's got me stumped as where the conflict is Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megavolkan Posted October 6, 2006 Author Share Posted October 6, 2006 So can we say no solution to this problem? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mapledell Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 i'm having the same problem. i have a MSI p65 neo-f. i have loaded the 10.4.6 jas patched dvd and installed through vmware, no problems. (well, a few problems, but it is up and running now). when i try booting to the drive directly, then i get the boot.plist error. any suggestions? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megavolkan Posted October 6, 2006 Author Share Posted October 6, 2006 i'm having the same problem. i have a MSI p65 neo-f. i have loaded the 10.4.6 jas patched dvd and ... Yes, i also have exactly the same board. Could it be the source of the problem? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mMiniImManN Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 If I remember right, after the OS is installed and you get that error, there was a way to configure something... But i'm not sure if that worked out like it should, my abit board is rma'd and i expect it in a few days.. and after a bios update of my asus board, it boots directly from the disk; suprised me even... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulicat Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Im guessing the problem is from an unsupported ide controller. Try getting an ide>sata convertor to connect the dvdrom to your sata controller. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mMiniImManN Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 I now believe this might be a kernel issue (somebody want to confirm this with me?) I looked up support for JMicron drivers and linux... it appears that some Ubantu system have had problems, and that there was a patch to the kernal that fixed the issue, even though the kernal supported the drivers.. (yea, it gets more weird) check the first post at this site: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234706 So my next question (so I might not have to spend time looking it up), is there an active working driver that could be loaded to the install dvd? I know I was unable to come up with anything so far.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mMiniImManN Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Im guessing the problem is from an unsupported ide controller.Try getting an ide>sata convertor to connect the dvdrom to your sata controller. I was thinking the same thing, I read somewhere to change around the way the ide controller's handle's (er, its change it to AHCI or something - I was lazy and didn't go look up what the exactly the AHCI does but might even help) I'm curious if the way works, if anybody tries it, please tell... I might have to go order one... although I do want my OS drive to be on the normal IDE controller.. hmm. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
souled Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 I searched for how to disable JMicron, and I ran into a forum where they say to set the ICH7 to AHCI (for the P5W). My BIOS doesn't have an ICH7 parameter, but when I try to just disable JMicron completely, the drive isn't recognized. There is also a setting nested in the JMicron setting (can't remember the name) that can have values of RAID, basic, or AHCI. My default is set at basic. I tried putting it at AHCI, but the same error appears when I try to boot from the disk. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldudturn Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 I'm getting exactly the same error too with a Foxconn P965 mb, trying to use the 10.4.7 version. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mMiniImManN Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Hmm, somehow I knew changing it to the AHCI or w/e it is wouldnt fix things, I don't remember if I tried that or not (just by trying as much as I could) but we'll see come monday... arg, wish ups shipped weekends :s Hmm, I just realized that Ubantu link I posted is a 12+ page forum thread.. I kind of don't want to read all that, so I won't. I guess I'll either have to install to a sata drive or wait for a proper fix (I'm still thinking it maybe a kernal issue).... Edit: I just read an interesting piece of info... I'll quote it https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/57502Several people mention that giving the parameter "all-generic-ide" to the kernel (at boot) works for Fedora Core, however, it did not work with the Ubuntu 6.06.1 desktop cd. Is there a similar feature for Darwin or whatever, to override the ide driver??? It would be very interesting to see if it just happens to make it work, I'm not counting on it though. I think using the IDE to SATA connector fixes the issue... but you'd have to plug it into a SATA port that isn't part of the JMicron controller... The above link I posted had somebody try it. Looks like I'll be heading to the store then.. eh, next week ish. Only thing is, the whole IDE channel would have to be ignored in my box if there's no drivers for it, booo Oh ya, you guys also might want to check for mobo BIOS updates (BE CAREFUL! (naturally)) For my Abit AB9 Pro, the new bios update's description is: "Support the IDE/ RAID mode adjusting function on JMicron363" + (plus some other fixes). I was ever so hoping to have loaded this bios into my board, but as I experienced first had their mobo is a bit flaky.. is why I had to RMA is, oi :s Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-203819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megavolkan Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 So i see that its p965 boards that might be the cause of the problem. Is there anyone succesfully installed osx on a 965 board? If so what is the exact configuration? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-204132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micheleq Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 I tried a lot with a P5B motherboard to install 10.4.6 and 10.4.7. You can solve the installation problem with an USB DVD and start the installation. Someone (2 people if i remember) had a success to install the OsX with this solution using a SATA HD connected to black/purble SATA connector (Jmicron raid connector) using it as AHCI. I failed to do that on my p5B, so im not sure if one solution exists. I changed motherboard and with 945 all works easily Mike Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-204167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mMiniImManN Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 So i see that its p965 boards that might be the cause of the problem.Is there anyone succesfully installed osx on a 965 board? If so what is the exact configuration? From what I'm reading on Linux forums, the JMicron controller must be disabled, and then to use another port other than the IDE and SATA that goes along with it (use of a IDE to SATA works).... I'm thinking I may hook up my OS to my 9th SATA port, and do a hookey pokey IDE to SATA to my eSATA for my burner... yay... :s As far as AHCI, I don't know quite yet, I'm prety sure I tried that and it still had failed.... Although, I did take my os x 10.4.6 installed on a IDE hdd out of my ASUS board and stuck it into my 965 board, I did manage to get darwin going, but it errored out on the firewire or usb something or another... I think its cuz the asus board didnt have soemthing insatlled and mine did... heh, we'll find out... Geez, i cant wait till monday (ugh, never thought i'd say that) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-204495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceynox Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Well, my problem is a bit different since i got a laptop, i don't think i got that JMicron controller since i got Ubuntu and SuSE Linux running great... btw, I can't configure anything in the bios regarding to AHCI or something... Are there any other solutions next to installing from VMWare??? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-204787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichielM Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Hit Enter several times before this message appears (ea. after the BIOS POST).. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-204852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceynox Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 If you mean i should get the "F8" menu, where i can select verbose mode, I only get to the option called "Intel PXE Network" or something, after i press enter i still get the same error... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-204859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 "Intel PXE Network" sounds like a BIOS message. Try to press F8 right after you hit Enter from the "Intel PXE Network" message. When OSX boots, first the screen turns black then grey with a spinning icon. As soon as the screen turns black (after you hit Enter), start tapping the F8 key quickly and repeatedly until a command prompt appears. Type -v at the prompt. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/29335-comapplebootplist-not-found/#findComment-204867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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