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kaloar
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i followed the simple mountain lion tutorial and i used a friends mac and was extremely satisfied in the face that i did it all and it booted.

i used my HP G42 and got through all the steps and no errors using

/amd_kernel -f -x -v -arch=i386 -maxmem=2048 -cpus=1

after i get through the disk utility it all seems find and i am happy, then i get to the part were i have too add my kexts....the kexts that i added to the install did not take. the customize screen shows up empty so i decided to go on with the install and it gets all the way through then gives me a screen saying that it did not install

on my 880g mobo with FX4100 it starts goes to the screen were it gets the chamaleon loader is and then goes into the darwin stuff were you choose your addons

i choose

/amd_kernel -f -maxmem=4096 cpus=2 and it goes through then restarts. anything i do on the desktop it will get up until right before when the screen should show up and then it restarts.

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mac_carol
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Its a Sapphire HD5450 silent 1GB or a Sapphire HD4650 1GB.

 

Thanks :D

 

 

http://www.hwcompare...radeon-hd-5450/

 

 

 

Ge= YEs no boot no launching GUI

GE =No i boot but i have resolution 1024x768 with 3mo of memory card -> Monitor O_o

-x = any idea =D

 

 

To make the GE=Yes works, you have to inject your HW-IDs into the vga kext

and you also have to find/use a proper ATI framebuffer (AtiConfig=...) which matches with both your VGA & monitor's port (CRT/DVI/HDMI)

 

If you can't find a stock one, you can inject the video path with your own custom personalities based on your VGA BIOS

 

 

or if you only need the native resolution for your monitor,

you can only install the vga kext (ATI5000Controller)

and delete the vga accelerator kext & bundles (AMDRadeonAccelerator & AMDRadeonX3000GLDriver)

but of course, you won't get the QE/CI

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theconnactic
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There's no doubt which card should perform better, Carol :D I thought perhaps either you or Gilles had a HD4650, but Bitcore recently learned they don't even work properly with OSX.

 

Some middle-to-high end Radeon cards are paradoxically a bad choice over middle-to-low end ones because of the heavy glitches many of them experience. That's why the personal experience of someone who is actually using a given card under Mountain Lion with an AMD rig will be better than any synthetic benchmark, at least for now.

 

All the best!

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mac_carol
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@theconnactic

 

:)

 

as both I & Gilles reported before, we get no major issues (almost :D) with the 4xxx card, not even one tiny glitch

all ports work properly and I can even get the HDMI sound via VoodooHDA, of course by injecting the correct audio & video path

 

the only issue I get is when I try to perform an OpenGL test under Cinebench

 

since I'm not a heavy gamer, maybe I will stick with this cheap card for a while

at least until someone find any solution for QE/CI bug under the 64-bit AMD osx

 

 

Here are some videos of ATI 4650 under AMD ML (not my videos! :D )

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LghzGh-bhI

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FUqFUlg21Q

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mac_carol
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@theconnactic

 

Yup!

ATM, I think the old 46xx/48xx card is still a better option for the 64-bit AMD ML

 

 

For a better price per performance ratio

(compared to nvidia cards, only if you can get a cheap used ATI one :D ),

These 2 cards might be considerable:

 

HD 4870 which is relatively equal with:

- GTX 275 http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4870-1gb/

- GTX 460 http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4870-1gb/

- GTX 550Ti http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4870-1gb/

 

-or-

 

HD 4890 which is relatively equal with:

- GTX 560Ti http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4890-1gb/

- GTX 650 http://www.hwcompare...-hd-4890-1gb/

- GTX 650Ti http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4890-1gb/

 

 

Cons:

- relatively old architecture

- power-hungry devices

- hot & noisy

- no DX11 support (only DX10/10.1) under M$-Win

 

 

But that's just my two cents ;)

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Bitcore
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@theconnactic

 

Yup!

ATM, I think the old 46xx/48xx card is still a better option for the 64-bit AMD ML

 

 

For a better price per performance ratio

(compared to nvidia cards, only if you can get a cheap used ATI one :D ),

These 2 cards might be considerable:

 

HD 4870 which is relatively equal with:

- GTX 275 http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4870-1gb/

- GTX 460 http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4870-1gb/

- GTX 550Ti http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4870-1gb/

 

-or-

 

HD 4890 which is relatively equal with:

- GTX 560Ti http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4890-1gb/

- GTX 650 http://www.hwcompare...-hd-4890-1gb/

- GTX 650Ti http://www.hwcompare...on-hd-4890-1gb/

 

 

Cons:

- relatively old architecture

- power-hungry devices

- hot & noisy

- no DX11 support (only DX10/10.1) under M$-Win

 

 

But that's just my two cents ;)

thanks! and what about hd5770?

:)

 

 

EDIT: SHIIIIT That HD 4890 is beast :D And cheap!

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mac_carol
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thanks! and what about hd5770?

:)

 

unfortunately, the current amd kernel still has some issues with the accelerator kext (AMDRadeonAccelerator.kext) for the latest series of ATI (5xxx/6xxx/7xxx series)

 

but I read somewhere in this forum,

R:A:W:X86 can manage to boot the osx ML with the old 10.6/10.7 accelerator kext (ATIRadeonX3000)

and he can also play an OpenGL game

 

 

 

EDIT: SHIIIIT That HD 4890 is beast :D And cheap!

 

 

Here in my region, a used HD4890 1GB only costs less than $50

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Bitcore
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oke so :

The only thing i want is 1920 x 1080 resolution, and as less distortion as possible.

I dont need heavy gaming or anything. Only thing i would also like is HDMI output

What do you recommend?

 

HD4650

HD4850

HD4890

HD5450

HD5770

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M$-Win with DX11 = 5xxx/6xxx/7xxx

 

64-bit AMD osx = 46xx/48xx

 

HD4650 = me

HD4850 = Gilles

 

HD4890 = You'll be the first :D

but I'm quite sure that this card will also work since it still uses the ATIRadeonX2000 kext as its accelerator

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HD4650 = me

HD4850 = Gilles

HD4890 = You'll be the first :D

but I'm quite sure that this card will also work since it still uses the ATIRadeonX2000 kext as its accelerator

Lets try to get the HD4890 First then ;)

If i can't find one ill buy HD4850 and else HD4650.

We'll see :P

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mac_carol
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Oke my 500W powersupply should be fine :D

http://www.extreme.o...n.com/PSUEngine used this and added some more usb devices and fans :P

On peak load (every component at 100%) it will need 410 watts.

On normal use (every component at 80%) i will need 320 watts.

So my card is already ordered :D

 

 

nah!

 

you must also add 20% (PSU loss) and 10%-30% (safety/spare)

 

so total wattage should be between 130% - 150% of your power consumption :D miscalculation

 

410W ---> 533W < your PSU < 615W

 

320W ---> 416W < ypur PSU < 480W

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

Sorry for the miscalculation

 

10%-30% (safety/spare) is supposed to be added to the wattage of PSU which is 120% of your power consumption

 

so the correct total wattage should be between (110% of 120%) and (130% of 120%) = 132% - 156%

 

410W ---> 541.2W < your PSU < 639.6W

 

320W ---> 422.4W < your PSU < 499.2W

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Bitcore
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nah!

 

you must also add 20% (PSU loss) and 10%-30% (safety/spare)

 

so total wattage should be between 130% - 150% of your power consumption

 

 

410W ---> 533W < your PSU < 615W

 

320W ---> 416W < ypur PSU < 480W

the numbers i gave you were including 50 spare watts

So 410/100*120 = 492 :D

on full load

 

Look what i just found! http://www.osx86.net...ion_10.8.2.html

"there's QE_CI Exotic patch for the final public Mountain Lion 10.8.2 ! It's ONLY for ATI HD 48xx series cards !!!"

Aw yeaah

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theconnactic
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oke so :

The only thing i want is 1920 x 1080 resolution, and as less distortion as possible.

I dont need heavy gaming or anything. Only thing i would also like is HDMI output

What do you recommend?

 

HD4650

HD4850

HD4890

HD5450

HD5770

 

I recommend, based on Carol's posts, you go 4xxx. Both the 5450 and the 5770 will work, but the later requires a lot of work. The former, the 5450, requires only the device ID being added to two kexts, and will work smoothly, with almost no distortion (on pair with 4xxx series cards, see Gilles' and my own tests in the Mountain Lion testing topic) with all ports working. HDMI audio won't work, so keep that in mind. I only recommend the 5450 if price is your concern and you also have Windows and need a DX11 card.

 

All the best.

 

FFFUUU!

I do a USB Drive with my friend's mac (GPT) but i don't put inside the usb drive the Fx_kernel and Mac Drive don't read GPT Partition... Any solution except OSX in VM? :D

 

Are you sure mac drive doesn't read GPT?

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mac_carol
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@Bitcore

 

I think the 550W PSU is the min. req. for your system to run the HD4890

but if you still insist to run it with 500W PSU then I can only say: TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK !!! :D

 

 

 

@theconnactic

 

 

about HDMI audio,

 

have you tried to remap both video path (based on bcc9's guide) and audio path (based on THe KiNG's guide) ?

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Yes, i did. And my DSDT is technically well prepared for HDMI audio. Yet, even VoodooHDA fails to enable it, and further research has shown me this is apparently an issue for all HD5450 users under OSX. If i make it, i'll probably be one of the very first. AppleHDA, though, is a work in progress. ATI chipset: very tough to get working. :)

 

All the best!

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I recommend, based on Carol's posts, you go 4xxx. Both the 5450 and the 5770 will work, but the later requires a lot of work. The former, the 5450, requires only the device ID being added to two kexts, and will work smoothly, with almost no distortion (on pair with 4xxx series cards, see Gilles' and my own tests in the Mountain Lion testing topic) with all ports working. HDMI audio won't work, so keep that in mind. I only recommend the 5450 if price is your concern and you also have Windows and need a DX11 card.

 

All the best.

 

 

 

Are you sure mac drive doesn't read GPT?

Yep :(

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I recommend, based on Carol's posts, you go 4xxx. Both the 5450 and the 5770 will work, but the later requires a lot of work. The former, the 5450, requires only the device ID being added to two kexts, and will work smoothly, with almost no distortion (on pair with 4xxx series cards, see Gilles' and my own tests in the Mountain Lion testing topic) with all ports working. HDMI audio won't work, so keep that in mind. I only recommend the 5450 if price is your concern and you also have Windows and need a DX11 card.

 

All the best.

 

I also have windows but dx10.1 is good for me, since i dont game anymore.

Yeah i saw it! Gills got 40FPS on cinebench! :D

@Bitcore

 

I think the 550W PSU is the min. req. for your system to run the HD4890

but if you still insist to run it with 500W PSU then I can only say: TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK !!! :D

 

Thanks for your cares :)

No not at my risk! At XFX's risk!

"This card requires both a 6-pin and an 8-pin connector. A 500W or larger power supply with one 6-pin and one 8-pin PCIe is recommended by XFX. If you want to run CrossFire, a power supply of at least 600W is suggested with two 6-pin connectors and two 8-pin connectors."

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