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I'm interested in having a version of Clover that starts any intel hack or AMD

I'm not a developers or coders, I don't have capabilities with the use of github as a developer:
I'm a simple enthusiast who has different hardware in his hands on which to try the versions in development :)

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For my part I am quite correct with this one that I have been testing for two days, I will stay like this and maybe come back to see if there is anything better. I'm trying to do my part but it doesn't seem very helpful. Good luck every one

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3 minutes ago, Jief_Machak said:

Why would you say that? It's helpful to know it's working. And your previous were taken into account...

Did I forgot to answer something ?

 

 

I have sent several test bdmesg logs and I never receive any response so what do you want me to say to myself that I just have to wait and come back.

I know lots people test and post but we all have different configs

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@chris1111 If I remember well, it was to say that it was working for you. When it's working, no need to send any log. I was busy with 5 different people in private message doing test for me (thanks to them). So the last few days was pretty intense.

If something is not working as it should, please remind me.

Thanks for the tests and the feedback.

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5 minutes ago, Jief_Machak said:

@chris1111 If I remember well, it was to say that it was working for you. When it's working, no need to send any log. I was busy with 5 different people in private message doing test for me (thanks to them). So the last few days was pretty intense.

If something is not working as it should, please remind me.

Thanks for the tests and the feedback.

Ok I understand now Thank you magnificent great job anyway

6 minutes ago, STLVNUB said:

Can someone please post their working EFI Folder (Clover and BigSur), take out the your smbios info

PC and Laptop

You only have to put your DSDT.aml in patched

For the EFI  PC maybe change USBMap.kext for USBInjectall for some config

 

CloverOC-EFI-Laptop.zip

CloverOC-EFI-PC.zip

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17 minutes ago, STLVNUB said:

Can someone please post their working EFI Folder (Clover and BigSur), take out the your smbios info

That's what I'm worried about. Because this is a copyrighted item, especially this smbios, yesterday I published it blocked the bios from the hackers.:bye:

Been hit many times already. Feel insecure

Because f is not necessary, do not show it If sending EFI files Please delete the smbios ID as well, it will be good.

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43 minutes ago, chris1111 said:

Ok I understand now Thank you magnificent great job anyway

PC and Laptop

You only have to put your DSDT.aml in patched

For the EFI  PC maybe change USBMap.kext for USBInjectall for some config

 

CloverOC-EFI-Laptop.zip

CloverOC-EFI-PC.zip

Stops at Configuration begin

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43 minutes ago, STLVNUB said:

Stops at Configuration begin

 

if it is for the configuration your marked configuration is normal this will happen, 
because the version of Chris's PC and Laptop is not even similar to his hard!
then you will have to complete the Graphics and more importantly the Qquircs and ACPI 
as well as the Kext!
you ask for an EFI back with no answer but not without informing the hardware 
and a picture of the error in verbose mode is premodial for help!
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9 hours ago, chris1111 said:

For my part I am quite correct with this one that I have been testing for two days, I will stay like this and maybe come back to see if there is anything better. I'm trying to do my part but it doesn't seem very helpful. Good luck every one

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From what I can tell every person doing his/her own testing from what Jief puts forward is a great help. Even now while everything is working that’s helping by making sure it’s reliable. 

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On 10/1/2020 at 4:32 PM, Slice said:

Not true.

I am using FakeSMC under BigSur.

Hi, I would like to say that using your version it doesn't show all the values. After that, I took your version and the one that I have used and showed all the values.
Then come to modify more until you get a value that is enough to show a certain level.

Thank you very much

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@Jief_Machak

I tried to show you the log file but no, it is empty. Until today, try to press into it. But belong to yesterday

bootlog.txt

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5 minutes ago, mifjpn said:

I compiled the "opencore_integration" branch. And I'm trying to keep using that CloverX64.efi on a regular basis. By doing so, I've been making sure that the automatic sleep works and that the Pioneer BD-209 doesn't have any power issues (consisting of patches). Furthermore, I would like to keep an eye on stability through continuous operation.

Thank you.

If you don't mind Could you please post your profile, share with friends? Right now I have a sleeping problem.
Thank you

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14 minutes ago, mifjpn said:

I had to install Big Sur Dev Beta 6 on my USB installer, so I've been using VirtualSMC.kext on the OpenCore environment used by MaLd0n.
From you, I have learned that I can operate with FakeSMC.kext. Thank you.

On the left-hand side is the version used earlier.
On the right is the version ofSlice 

 

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16 hours ago, jsl2000 said:

Thanks.

Do I need modify Kernel Patches for AMD CPUs from OpenCore ?

Because in previous version of Clover without modification it can not boot at all.

Just as my predication without modification of Kernel patches from OpenCore to Clover's format it can NOT boot my Ryzen 1700X or FX-6300 hackintoshs.

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Thank you for all your work and energy you have put in development of Clover. I was a happy Clover user for years and I would still like to use it, wasn't it the fact that I have a working OpenCore EFI already. I was waiting for a new Clover as well. But now we have a Clover which has parts of OpenCore in it to make it work. I didn't like OpenCore anymore as I have messed with OpenCore last year in august already and destroyed my BIOS from an expansive motherboard. But because I wanted to be prepared for BigSur I gave it another try and I really have to say the Guide the team has created is great. Now I have a working EFI with OC. Upgrading OC to a new version is not what an End User would like to mess with. That's why I prepare Clover. In my opinion it was even easier to configure b.t.w. But now with all the quirks add-ons and lastly almost integrated all OC, I think that OpenCore is the way to go further with. May be you will find the real cause why Clover don't work with BigSur and make Clover work again? And then create a new working Clover without that mess? I trust in you to find the real solution.

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28 minutes ago, Planet X said:

Thank you for all your work and energy you have put in development of Clover. I was a happy Clover user for years and I would still like to use it, wasn't it the fact that I have a working OpenCore EFI already. I was waiting for a new Clover as well. But now we have a Clover which has parts of OpenCore in it to make it work. I didn't like OpenCore anymore as I have messed with OpenCore last year in august already and destroyed my BIOS from an expansive motherboard. But because I wanted to be prepared for BigSur I gave it another try and I really have to say the Guide the team has created is great. Now I have a working EFI with OC. Upgrading OC to a new version is not what an End User would like to mess with. That's why I prepare Clover. In my opinion it was even easier to configure b.t.w. But now with all the quirks add-ons and lastly almost integrated all OC, I think that OpenCore is the way to go further with. May be you will find the real cause why Clover don't work with BigSur and make Clover work again? And then create a new working Clover without that mess? I trust in you to find the real solution.

I dislike quoting such large posts but your post is full of your experiences and I believe you should word it so. If the Clover team need to use parts of OpenCore to get a working Clover back then so be it, Clover will be still better in my opinion as operating systems other than macOS will boot as themselves instead of as macOS. 
The learning curve for the new quirks etc for the OC integrated Clover has not been anywhere near as bad as the learning curve for OpenCore or even Clover in the beginning. 

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13 minutes ago, SavageAUS said:

I dislike quoting such large posts but your post is full of your experiences and I believe you should word it so. If the Clover team need to use parts of OpenCore to get a working Clover back then so be it, Clover will be still better in my opinion as operating systems other than macOS will boot as themselves instead of as macOS. 
The learning curve for the new quirks etc for the OC integrated Clover has not been anywhere near as bad as the learning curve for OpenCore or even Clover in the beginning. 

 

Maybe Clover can have default settings for the Quirks built in? If no Quarks are specified defaults are being used, and if the user wants to overwrite Quarks then just specify what to overwrite in the Quarks section and what is not being specified is defaults.

 

I think the Quarks vary from different generations such as Skylake, Haswell etc. but mostly each generation has very similar Quarks.

 

Just a thought.

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27 minutes ago, mifjpn said:

However, please remember that the origin of OpenCore is a bootloader that incorporates the flow of OZMOSIS. Please.

It does not.

27 minutes ago, mifjpn said:

"Please separate the impersonation to Mac and boot select.

You have already been explained to that and how it is possible.

16 minutes ago, SavageAUS said:

Clover will be still better in my opinion as operating systems other than macOS will boot as themselves instead of as macOS. 

Properly patched ACPI works equally well on all OSes compared to original ACPI, for SMBIOS see above. I get people want to be lazy, but I don't like the general tone of implying adequately patched stuff is inferior.

3 minutes ago, Common_Sense said:

I think the Quarks vary from different generations such as Skylake, Haswell etc. but mostly each generation has very similar Quarks.

Many are similar, yes, but some are required for maximum security on some platforms while it causes boot issues on others. But I understand security is not a concern for Clover at all, so it should be easier to implement.

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17 hours ago, Jief_Machak said:

Hi everyone.

 

Is there anyone here who

- is not sure on which file his EFI bios is booting

- is annoyed because clover and oc efi has to be named CloverX64.efi and OpenCore.efi. Hence, you can't easily see the version

- is tired of renaming efi files to try different version (that's the consequences of the previous point).

- finds not great the need to have a bootable Clover/OC backup on a USB stick in case something goes wrong at update or config modification.

- is also tired to often rename Clover folders to use them.

 

If you're interested by a definitive solution to these annoyance, just click the confused icon on this post !I have something for you.

 

Whew, I thought nobody was interested :o. Solution is here https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/345336-bootloaderchooser/

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