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4 hours ago, Jief_Machak said:

I didn't know that, but it's interesting.

That said, you have a much simpler solution that will also bring you new possibilities : BootLoaderChooser (https://github.com/jief666/BootloaderChooser/releases)

You put that BootX64.efi in EFI/Microsoft/Boot, rename it "bootmgfw.efi" if you need to. Next reboot, you'll have a text menu. Choose your Clover wherever is it. Next reboot you won't see that text menu unless you boot when a key kept pressed down.

This allows you to have multiple Clover folder AND multiple Clover efi file inside each Clover folder.

That's awesome for debugging and (or) testing!

 

Also this cmd is very simple.

Basically it's just modifying the original Windows bootloader config to not point to bootmgfw.efi, but to CLOVERX64.efi and it'll just load that. So the Windows bootloader will start first, then it'll load the Clover. Good thing that you can mess up the Clover or even delete that, Windows loader then will ignore the location and will load Windows instead automatically.

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3 minutes ago, kushwavez said:

Basically it's just modifying the original Windows bootloader config to not point to bootmgfw.efi, but to CLOVERX64.efi and it'll just load that.

It looks like that, but you still have to modify "bootmgfw.efi". The content of "bootmgfw.efi" will be the BootloaderChooser efi.

 

5 minutes ago, kushwavez said:

So the Windows bootloader will start first

The Windows bootloader starts first, but it's not Windows bootloader anymore. It's BootloaderChooser.

 

6 minutes ago, kushwavez said:

Good thing that you can mess up the Clover or even delete that, Windows loader then will ignore the location and will load Windows instead automatically.

Sorry, not too sure of the meaning.

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3 minutes ago, Jief_Machak said:

It looks like that, but you still have to modify "bootmgfw.efi". The content of "bootmgfw.efi" will be the BootloaderChooser efi.

 

The Windows bootloader starts first, but it's not Windows bootloader anymore. It's BootloaderChooser.

 

Sorry, not too sure of the meaning.

Oh sorry, it's not for that, it's for "bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\CLOVER\CLOVERX64.efi" in Windows.

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Clean NVRAM where OpenCore tends to write "boot-args=...". This is wrong because this variable is not a business for a bootloader.

In my case Verbose is this menu works fine.

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2 hours ago, JorgeMax said:

@Jief_Machakcould you check why these keys don't work when checked?

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Thank you

I didn't see Slice answer and I tried too. Works fine.

@Slice Could we implement a warning ? Like "Your boot options will be ignored ?" Or "Would you like to delete OpenCore NVRAM boot options NVRAM ?" or else ?

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i wanted to point out these oddities that you see in the GUI on BigSur with Clover last commit :drool:

 

https://github.com/CloverHackyColor/CloverBootloader/commit/c458db4acd9eabeafbf2a8c40fd152e076d6d894

 

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PS: but maybe it was the previous commit, I see new build if I compile Clover
now i finish compiling and text

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1 hour ago, Slice said:

Clean NVRAM where OpenCore tends to write "boot-args=...". This is wrong because this variable is not a business for a bootloader.

In my case Verbose is this menu works fine.

 

This "boot arguments" is defined in my Clover config.plist, not OpenCore
If I mark the field for verbose mode, it does not work, and this is repeated in the other fields

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36 minutes ago, iCanaro said:

this commit CLOVERX64--5125 - c458db4ac.efi has a probleme! repeat the same on my two BigSur systems where one is for testing and the other I use for everything! like these prints Jieff already made a correction to me that was working correctly!

I will test the next one that posted here too! if you want to test what Jieff sent me with correction it will always be one more test! follow here and thanks for sending me the commit

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CloverX64-2020-10-25-20-53-58-d540f76-dirty-jief.efi.zip

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2 minutes ago, PG7 said:

this commit CLOVERX64--5125 - c458db4ac.efi has a probleme! repeat the same on my two BigSur systems where one is for testing and the other I use for everything! like these prints Jieff already made a correction to me that was working correctly!

I will test the next one that posted here too! if you want to test what Jieff sent me with correction it will always be one more test! follow here and thanks for sending me the commit

 

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CloverX64-2020-10-25-20-53-58-d540f76-dirty-jief.efi.zip

Is it good news? Can you try the full installation with beta 10?

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19 minutes ago, iCanaro said:

with this latest commit CLOVERX64--5125 - fafc50e3d.efi is already with the correct correction for the Preboot BigSur repeat case and I already have both well named, such as Jieff had noticed me!

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Thank you follow the prints in the difference!

debug.log

11 minutes ago, naiclub said:

Is it good news? Can you try the full installation with beta 10?

I haven’t tested the installation yet, but I’ll even test it today and answer later!

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1 hour ago, naiclub said:

Is it good news? Can you try the full installation with beta 10?

still unable to install BigSur from the USB installer!

here I used the last Commit that iCanario posted continues with the same error and I'll make it clear:

Neither Opencore in any version (I haven't tested the 0.6.3 dev)

nor Clover I can install BigSur no version the error is the same in both Bootloaders (Catalina installs without a problem) step 1 follow the prints!

 

*this first installation step goes well

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Google translate !

 

step 2

where everything happens is that it arrives at the screen with the mouse pointer and sends to pass the discount of 29 minutes it simply restarts and always stays on it without going any further

 

Google translate !

 

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25 minutes ago, PG7 said:

still unable to install BigSur from the USB installer!

here I used the last Commit that iCanario posted continues with the same error and I'll make it clear:

Neither Opencore in any version (I haven't tested the 0.6.3 dev)

nor Clover I can install BigSur no version the error is the same in both Bootloaders (Catalina installs without a problem) step 1 follow the prints!

 

*this first installation step goes well

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Google translate !

 

step 2

where everything happens is that it arrives at the screen with the mouse pointer and sends to pass the discount of 29 minutes it simply restarts and always stays on it without going any further

 

Google translate !

 

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The symptoms are the same as me.
Now I have a lot of peace of mind as the opencore no longer harms my motherboard.

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1 hour ago, PG7 said:

still unable to install BigSur from the USB installer!

here I used the last Commit that iCanario posted continues with the same error and I'll make it clear:

Neither Opencore in any version (I haven't tested the 0.6.3 dev)

nor Clover I can install BigSur no version the error is the same in both Bootloaders (Catalina installs without a problem) step 1 follow the prints!

 

*this first installation step goes well

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1927454345_Fase14.thumb.jpg.cc56308696659af627b4593a53c2f5aa.jpg1233823035_Fase13.thumb.jpg.388bce6c7f525d19cb4a14acac577803.jpg

Google translate !

 

step 2

where everything happens is that it arrives at the screen with the mouse pointer and sends to pass the discount of 29 minutes it simply restarts and always stays on it without going any further

 

Google translate !

 

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Opencore, I use it well (0.6.3 dev).

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18 hours ago, Jief_Machak said:

I really dont see how is that possible. The message, in case of a boolean is expected is "Expecting <true/> <false/> or <string> tag containing true, false, yes or no"

 

I copied/pasted this key and it works : no complain when it's "<string>No</string>".

Send me back your config.plist AND the version of the validator you're using, please, and I'll have a look.

All good now. It was actually my fault by following the old wiki.

 

BTW:

iMac:~ ella$ /Users/ella/Desktop/CloverConfigPlistValidator0.6 /Users/ella/Desktop/config.plist 
Warning: Unknown key '/SystemParameters/ExposeSysVariables:1226'. Skipped.

 

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