Jief_Machak Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Wouldn't be surprise it'll stay. I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't support booting on main partition. What is the problem to always boot on Preboot ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Just now, Jief_Machak said: Wouldn't be surprise it'll stay. I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't support booting on main partition. What is the problem to always boot on Preboot ? No problem, just not what I’m used too that’s all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Jief_Machak said: Wouldn't be surprise it'll stay. I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't support booting on main partition. What is the problem to always boot on Preboot ? Older systems has no it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common_Sense Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jief_Machak said: Wouldn't be surprise it'll stay. I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't support booting on main partition. What is the problem to always boot on Preboot ? I cannot comment on what is the correct behavior to boot the main partition or the pre-boot partition, you know this much better than I. I'm just a regular macOS user I noticed that if I go to "Startup Disk" I cannot select the pre-boot volume, and when I select my macOS installation and press restart there will be a KP. So it seems that it does not try to boot from pre-boot, because then it should work without KP. Clover has always worked with selecting the main macOS partition in the boot menu and OC can boot from main macOS partition as well. Just my 2 cents. EDIT: Forgot to say that in the earlier betas we could boot through selecting main partition in Clover as well. I think beta 9 and earlier worked fine that way. Edited October 19, 2020 by Common_Sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 May be set in config.plist something like Boot->AlwaysPreboot=YES/NO ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matgen84 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Slice said: May be set in config.plist something like Boot->AlwaysPreboot=YES/NO ? @Slice Why not, but only for Big Sur, I suppose. Because previous macOS boot fine from main partition. If I understand well. Edited October 19, 2020 by Matgen84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jief_Machak Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, Common_Sense said: OC can boot from main macOS partition as well I don't think that's true. I have to double-check, but I think OC boot only on Preboot. You just don't know it. 22 minutes ago, Slice said: May be set in config.plist something like Boot->AlwaysPreboot=YES/NO ? Boot on main is not supported and doesn't work anymore. Probably some hard coding in boot.efi. Let just disabled it for BS. We'll leave as it was for previous version. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsl2000 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 19 hours ago, Shaneee said: In theory copying the OC patches into a Clover config should work but I've not had any success. "Base" becomes "Procedure" and the rest are self explanatory but it always fails to start booting. OC Patch: <dict> <key>Arch</key> <string>x86_64</string> <key>Base</key> <string>_cpu_topology_sort</string> <key>Comment</key> <string>algrey - cpu_topology_sort -disable _x86_validate_topology</string> <key>Count</key> <integer>1</integer> <key>Enabled</key> <true/> <key>Find</key> <data> 6AAA//8= </data> <key>Identifier</key> <string>kernel</string> <key>Limit</key> <integer>0</integer> <key>Mask</key> <data> /wAA//8= </data> <key>MaxKernel</key> <string>20.99.99</string> <key>MinKernel</key> <string>17.0.0</string> <key>Replace</key> <data> Dx9EAAA= </data> <key>ReplaceMask</key> <data> </data> <key>Skip</key> <integer>0</integer> </dict> Clover Version: <dict> <key>Find</key> <data>6AAA//8=</data> <key>MaskFind</key> <data>/wAA//8=</data> <key>Replace</key> <data>Dx9EAAA=</data> <key>Disabled</key> <false/> <key>Comment</key> <string>algrey - cpu_topology_sort -disable _x86_validate_topology</string> <key>Procedure</key> <string>_cpu_topology_sort</string> </dict> I found something maybe cause failed to boot Big Sur in my Ryzen 1700X hackintosh. The following patches can boot Catalina 10.15.7 and its log showed errors: KernelToPatch-log.rtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naiclub Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Jief_Machak said: I will very soon update Clover to show Preboot and NOT main partitions for BigSur. Make sure you didn't force hide Preboot in config.plist. No, I never hide, preboot. Because I think I will definitely need it in the future, there is no need to hide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinicius P. Miranda Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) Hello Guys, Do you know how to solve this error? I am days trying to install BS Beta 9 through the flashdrive but I always stop at this error. I've tried OpenCore 0.6.1 and 0.6.2 not work, now I'm trying from clover r5123 to r5125. Does anyone know what I need to modify in Clover to get through? Note 1: I already tried with FakeSMC instead of VirtualSMC. I've tried copying the Quircs from sample.plist without modifying. I modified the Quircs like a Sanity Checker. I always stuck in the same place. Note 2: My debug.log is always getting empty. I do not know what happened. Note 3: I have Catalina working well. My EFI: EFI Vinicius P. Miranda.zip MB: Rampage IV Extreme x79 CPU: Intel i7 3930k Sandy Bridge-E Edited October 19, 2020 by Vinicius P. Miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common_Sense Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 40 minutes ago, Jief_Machak said: I don't think that's true. I have to double-check, but I think OC boot only on Preboot. You just don't know it. Boot on main is not supported and doesn't work anymore. Probably some hard coding in boot.efi. Let just disabled it for BS. We'll leave as it was for previous version. Oh, it might of course be that it boots pre-boot behind the scenes, I wouldn't notice any difference, didn't mean to sound arrogant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jief_Machak Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Common_Sense said: Oh, it might of course be that it boots pre-boot behind the scenes, I wouldn't notice any difference, didn't mean to sound arrogant No, no, you're fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 I can't remember who asked but ill post here anyway. This is my EFI for Catalina on my X570 AMD Ryzen 5 3600. Clover-Cat.zip 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsl2000 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 38 minutes ago, SavageAUS said: I can't remember who asked but ill post here anyway. This is my EFI for Catalina on my X570 AMD Ryzen 5 3600. Clover-Cat.zip Please test my converted new patch which maybe working for you at Big Sur too. 17h-new-clover.plist 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaeuser Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Common_Sense said: Oh, it might of course be that it boots pre-boot behind the scenes, I wouldn't notice any difference, didn't mean to sound arrogant It's Preboot, APFS never supported main partition boot (I heard Apple does this under special circumstances, but never saw any proof), i.e. you may or may not be lucky. Both Startup Disk and bless hide the Preboot situation, it's an implementation detail not relevant to the (Mac) user Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCanaro Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) @jsl2000 @SavageAUS if you want to try, on my X570 they work Edited October 20, 2020 by iCanaro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naiclub Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, Download-Fritz said: It's Preboot, APFS never supported main partition boot (I heard Apple does this under special circumstances, but never saw any proof), i.e. you may or may not be lucky. Both Startup Disk and bless hide the Preboot situation, it's an implementation detail not relevant to the (Mac) user Yes, I think it is. It's Preboot, APFS. I can feel it. I tried Partition Harddisk Guide Format, it could not be installed. Only APFS format is required to install successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCanaro Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 40 minutes ago, jsl2000 said: Please test my converted new patch which maybe working for you at Big Sur too. 17h-new-clover.plist tested fully functional on mojave and catalina big sur, however, does not even start; my idea is that as soon as they fix the MatchOS then it will work properly Also, continue the work, I came up with the idea (to be verified well) that Limit corresponds to Clover's RangeFind 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, jsl2000 said: Please test my converted new patch which maybe working for you at Big Sur too. 17h-new-clover.plist Booted Catalina just fine but stuck at EXITBS:START on Big Sur. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageAUS Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, iCanaro said: if you want to try, on my X570 they work config-CATA_MOJ_26.plist.zip - not tested config-CATA_BS_38.plist.zip - boots Catalina & Big Sur to a point - see picture. config-CATA_BS_29.plist.zip - not tested - next test Spoiler EDIT- I left it on the above screen longer and it finally booted big sur! Also WiFi is not working. with Clover 5125. I just need to work out what’s causing all the audio text and the BYS3 stall. Simple NVRAM reset fixed the above and boots fast! @iCanaro TYVM! @Jief_Machak & @Slice Great work to bring us AMD users into the Clover world. Nothing on my config changed except for the quoted patches (config-CATA_BS_38.plist.zip) Spoiler Edited October 19, 2020 by SavageAUS It booted!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlrycm Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Download-Fritz said: It's Preboot, APFS never supported main partition boot (I heard Apple does this under special circumstances, but never saw any proof), i.e. you may or may not be lucky. Both Startup Disk and bless hide the Preboot situation, it's an implementation detail not relevant to the (Mac) user @Download-Fritz , @naiclub: Prior to beta 10, I tested booting my build (haswell GA-Z97-HD3) in BS using clover 5123, selecting in clover GUI the Big Sur partition (Preboot was hidden) and it worked well. I configured it based on an EFI posted by a colleague (the build was a Z87) in the pre-release Big Sur thread. And he also posted his working clover EFI under beta 10 but I haven’t updated mine to see if I can boot from main partition. Maybe not being able to boot from main partition is affecting some systems. In my case, it appears that Apple changed something in beta 10 and I did not figure out right way what is now precluding me from booting beta10 through clover 5125 selecting the Main partition instead of Preboot which is the case now. Any thoughts about that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaeuser Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 @jlrycm Please read what you quoted. Booting the main partition is not supported. If it worked before, nice that you had luck, but if now it doesn't, Apple does and will not care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 It worked before without if. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matgen84 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 @Slice @Jief_Machak I confirm what @jlrycm say: even r5125 latest commit can boot no more the main partition. It was possible on Beta 9. Now, Preboot is mandatory to boot Big Sur as @Download-Fritz wrote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jief_Machak Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 @everyone. As far as I know, there is NO special processing when it's a main partition or not. For Clover it's just a partition that contains an .efi, so let's boot it. Nothing is made in Clover to make a main partition bootable or not. That's why I said that it was an Apple change. No commit, either old ones or new ones will change that. But I'm doing now is to hide main BS partition. That's all. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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