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ameris_cyning
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My intent was not to imply that clover is a bad bootloader, i love it on my x202e and i agree it is the best bootloader available. I was simply asking if anyone else had audio problems in hopes that someone else with that problem would have a solution. I realize chameleon has it's own issues as well. What are the drawbacks of cloverefi vs true uefi? Any?

 

The Mac doesnt use a standard EFI. It is specially crafted. OS X won't boot up on normal EFI machines

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Slice, if I may be so bold to say this, it may be wise to bring Clover to the mainstream. We Hackintosh users are the only ones who are benefiting from this great boot loader. If Clover could transition to a more generic boot loader instead of focusing on us, we may be able to bring in other programmers to work on it, and some of them may actually trickle into our community.

I agree with this 100%, bringing Clover to maistream it will hellp us and other people as well.

I  think that a hackintosh pc with only OS X installed are very few so legacy is very important to boot other os installed on thet pc.

And i hane read on a forum (dont remember  where) that they are booting windows uefi with clover to load a patched dsdt.

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jamiethemorris
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The Mac doesnt use a standard EFI. It is specially crafted. OS X won't boot up on normal EFI machines

i don't think i really worded that correctly, to clarify I meant cloverefi vs. The standard clover installation for uefi PC's. I'm familiar with apple's efi implementation compared to PC's.

 

I think bringing clover to the mainstream is a good idea as well, I know the Linux community has been very helpful in dsdt development so I don't see why it wouldn't be for bootloaders as well. I happen to think clover works great with Linux, especially if you use an efistub.

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Slice, if I may be so bold to say this, it may be wise to bring Clover to the mainstream. We Hackintosh users are the only ones who are benefiting from this great boot loader. If Clover could transition to a more generic boot loader instead of focusing on us, we may be able to bring in other programmers to work on it, and some of them may actually trickle into our community.

And what I have to do? It is open source. There are developers team working on it. There is a subforum with support here. Do I miss something?

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are flat agree with you, dmazar and 'a great developer, in fact it was he long ago to explain to me step by step how to install clover in UEFI mode, and it' been a great help to this wonderful project, but you are also a large, just that sometimes I do stress a lot .... hahaha

 

I tried both chamaleon that enoch boot, but I noticed a big difference between these boot loader in legacy mode, for me clover and 'fantastic ... I was going to try it Ozmosis, but it is to me a very foolish boot.

 

Ozmosis it is a for girl ....

I joined this forum just to respond to you, I have almost the same rig as you do, and have no issues at all with Clover UEFI.

Have you read the manual for your motherboard? You appear to believe that having a super fast overclock is all that matters, which tools do you use to ensure a balance. For starters get it running with default settings. You need to be your own teacher, and the manual is your friend if you use it wisely.

 

If you have a board like ours it is essential to understand the BIOS requirements, over clockers are experimenters. You would be wiser to go for a straightforward Z87 and enjoy your OSX and whatever else. The boot loader is just that a boot loader - you should use that which suits you best and gives you the minimum problems.

 

"Ozmosis is for girl" - that is a very silly statement to make.

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I joined this forum just to respond to you, I have almost the same rig as you do, and have no issues at all with Clover UEFI.Have you read the manual for your motherboard? You appear to believe that having a super fast overclock is all that matters, which tools do you use to ensure a balance. For starters get it running with default settings. You need to be your own teacher, and the manual is your friend if you use it wisely.If you have a board like ours it is essential to understand the BIOS requirements, over clockers are experimenters. You would be wiser to go for a straightforward Z87 and enjoy your OSX and whatever else. The boot loader is just that a boot loader - you should use that which suits you best and gives you the minimum problems."Ozmosis is for girl" - that is a very silly statement to make.

and who made ​​you copy and paste from my post ... guess who will be ahahahahahaha already been

 

This is not your flour sack, someone has linked my post to ignite flame, but I'm not a fool, indeed are a very shrewd man.
ps: obviously I was joking about how to define that omzosis and for girls only.
 

Since you signed up to meet me, starts to explain all bios entries relating to voltages and submenus. .. but here we're OT, open a separate topic ... for years whenever the platform change first thing I do is burn the instruction manual ...but please with me are only hard bread to eat
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and who made ​​you copy and paste from my post ... guess who will be ahahahahahaha already been

 

This is not your flour sack, someone has linked my post to ignite flame, but I'm not a fool, indeed are a very shrewd man.
ps: obviously I was joking about how to define that omzosis and for girls only.
 

Since you signed up to meet me, starts to explain all bios entries relating to voltages and submenus. .. but here we're OT, open a separate topic ... for years whenever the platform change first thing I do is burn the instruction manual ...but please with me are only hard bread to eat

 

You are Joking lah. You need to learn to read and to learn and do it yourself, you say many times how experienced you are,  I am only telling you that your rig would work if you applied yourself  by firstly  shaking the dust off your manual and learning from your own experience,  if a Vietnamese guy can read English you can as well.

 

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You are Joking lah. You need to learn to read and to learn and do it yourself, you say many times how experienced you are,  I am only telling you that your rig would work if you applied yourself  by firstly  shaking the dust off your manual and learning from your own experience,  if a Vietnamese guy can read English you can as well.

 

Bibi

:whistle: Hei listen me..for me you are OT here.

 

PS: Also another user have some problem with restart on X79 ..ok? Ok ?

and I also tried the default and the problem persists, and enough is enough I have no more desire to respond, and referring to the man who has linked my post I filled balls of his reviews
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And what I have to do? It is open source. There are developers team working on it. There is a subforum with support here. Do I miss something?

That sums it up right there.. Its up for anyone to get and is open source for anyone to work with, what more is there to "main stream"? What are the benefits of clover to a windows or linux user? You guys need to keep in mind that almost no one thinks twice about their "boot manager". We are the ones that have put extra emphases on the boot manager ever since David Elliott started patching boot-132.

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And what I have to do? It is open source. There are developers team working on it. There is a subforum with support here. Do I miss something?

 

Slice, this is a niche forum. Not too many people care about what we do here. Clover deserves more than this. 

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A few things come to mind as far as benefits for Linux and windows users... First of all, clover can boot on a bios based computer and add support for gpt, giving those users the ability to user drives larger than 2tb on a PC without uefi. Currently the only other bootloaders that do this are duet and refind. And of course it boots multiple os's, which is of benefit to a lot of Linux (and to a lesser extent windows) users. Sure, grub does this too but clover is much more elegant (correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe efistub allows for faster boot than grub as well). Since it's open source, this would also give the ability for users of other operating systems too add more boot options and features specific to Linux or windows, like loading a custom dsdt or etc. And of course, having more options for bootloaders/ boot managers is never a bad thing. :)

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pokenguyen
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Please help me to create a Mountain Lion USB Flashdrive. I did following steps but no success:

 

1. Restore InstallESD.dmg to flashdrive.

2. Copy FakeSMC, NullCPU, VoodooPS2 to EFI\CLOVER\kexts\10.8\

3. Boot to Clover, choose flashdrive, press space and select with kext injection, with/without cache.

 

It always stuck at Root device uuid is "...."

 

Here is my debug.log

debug.log.zip

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Slice, this is a niche forum. Not too many people care about what we do here. Clover deserves more than this.

I agree.

 

@Slice Open Source does not have to mean free.

 

You will be aware that the efforts of a few have made great progress with the WIKI.

 

Currently Clover is hosted on US based sites plus of course applelife.ru (the latter which appears to be well run), which serve a purpose. What is out there currently is confusing to a new user as they might come here, or go elsewhere and the masses amounts of info only serves to confuse. Many I am sure give up.

 

Perhaps Clover now deserves a higher profile and its own official website on servers located where any legal issues might not affect its raison d'être. One dedicated website where users could get the information they require and be assured that it is up to date - like the WIKI set up by JrCs is now, with a dedicated team of effective moderators. It could be a subscription service to cover costs etc.

 

We do not know what issues Mavericks might present when it is released, but certainly if signed kexts were to be an issue it might be prudent to be have a service that is able to provide what users are prepared to subscribe to.

 

You personally probably do not want to take this on as you are around from one early morning to the next, but why not talk to your Developers and seek their opinion on a way forward. Change is good...

 

Food for thought...

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Not charge me for boot loader plz!

 

Look around! People don't even pay for macs or their os around here! You think someone is going to buy a boot manager?   

 

Sounds like something tonymac would do  :jester:

Yeh, I see no clicks on Donate button  :whistle:  So I decided do not ask and keep my conscience clean.

 

About servers. I can't present everywhere and put my instructions everywhere. Do this by yourself. Thanks to xsmile and JrCs for the WIKI.

Main home of the project is sf.net. Why you afraid it? Because it is located in US? I am not sure.

 

Yes, open source doesn't mean free. There are restrictions of GPL license and shortly "not for sale!".

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Yeh, I see no clicks on Donate button  :whistle:  So I decided do not ask and keep my conscience clean.

 

About servers. I can't present everywhere and put my instructions everywhere. Do this by yourself. Thanks to xsmile and JrCs for the WIKI.

Main home of the project is sf.net. Why you afraid it? Because it is located in US? I am not sure.

 

Yes, open source doesn't mean free. There are restrictions of GPL license and shortly "not for sale!".

It would be helpful to make the donation process easier to use

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I'm having problems with my Asus 1201n and Clover again: it seems that the boot7 (both as is or renamed as "boot") is not being able to see my disk again. I tried also that other boot7 made by Slice and passed to me by dmazar, but the problem persists: boot hangs before Clover GUI, just after showing that "Boot > 7" message. To make things worse, pressing F2 is not saving a preboot log in EFI/misc - did the procedure for this changed across revisions?

 

All the best!

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I'm having problems with my Asus 1201n and Clover again: it seems that the boot7 (both as is or renamed as "boot") is not being able to see my disk again. I tried also that other boot7 made by Slice and passed to me by dmazar, but the problem persists: boot hangs before Clover GUI, just after showing that "Boot > 7" message. To make things worse, pressing F2 is not saving a preboot log in EFI/misc - did the procedure for this changed across revisions?

 

All the best!

I have the same problem with Clover Legacy in my HP Elitebook. Clover UEFI works fine though.

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I have the same problem with Clover Legacy in my HP Elitebook. Clover UEFI works fine though.

 

 

Hi, Pokenguyen! Unfortunately for me, i don't think my old 1201n has any UEFI capabilities. Besides, it used to work back on Clover rev. 9xx days, but i needed a special boot7 file - which i still have, and tried to use, to no avail. Those days i also had Windows, and my disk was formatted as MBR though: today i have my disk formatted as GPT and cannot use Clover ever since.

 

All the best!

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preboot log much ?

Hi. It was definitely bug of version 2114.

Having used 2078 solved the problem. I wanted to make to preboot.log from 2114 and 2078.

At 2078 I had pressed on F2, but after a loading the /EFI/CLOVER/misc is empty.

And I have an extra question.

To get working sleep I use

		<key>USB</key>
		<dict>
			<key>Inject</key>
			<true/>
			<key>FixOwnership</key>
			<false/>
			<key>AddClockID</key>
			<true/>
		</dict>

But after that it seems that my fun is stopped or works very slowly.

Seems to amend it I must do something at DSDT, right?

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