Swad Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Two big developments on the virtualization front today. First, Microsoft announced that they're killing VirtualPC for Macs (God rest its soul). According to MacWorld, they're moving on to bigger and better things, like a Universal Office. “Developing a high-quality virtualization solution, such as Virtual PC, for the Intel-based Mac is similar to creating a version 1.0 release due to how closely the product integrates with Mac hardware,” the statement concluded. Secondly, VMware did indeed announce their plans for a Mac based virtualization solution. The new Mac product is based on VMware’s robust and advanced virtualization technology, shipping for more than seven years and used by more than four million people today. Moving forward, virtual machines created with any of VMware’s products will run on Intel-based Macs and, similarly, non-Mac OS X virtual machines created with the new product will run on the latest versions of other VMware platform products. You can pre-register here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouch Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 That last statement is interesting - it indicates that you will be able to create mac os x virtual machines - so Workstation for Mac will support some kind of virtual EFI. Obviously these virtual machines won't function on older Workstation for PC versions - but when VMware release a new version of Workstation for PC then...an easy way to run mac os from a pc without h4x0ring the install disk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Well it wasn't efi only stopping vmware to run osx without hacking, apple did active steps in the kernel to screw up vmware, maxxuss had to fix them too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hurt Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Wow, if they include a virtual EFI able to boot OS X then that is great news for the MacEFIx86 project. Maybe we can somehow extract the virtual EFI and use it natively on our PCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takuro Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Imagine being able to run OS X legally on VMware if the newest version had changes that accommodated for Tiger. VMware is pretty serious when they state that they strive to let people run any OS virtually on any other OS. I'm glad Microsoft didn't cut support for VirtualPC. Even in light of all this smug mac-fanboy bashing of Vista, they're still helping the people with Power PC macs. In reality behind all the mud slinging, we really need both operating systems for different things. And that's why we have virtualization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Umm... I have read over VMWare's press releases and I see nothing that indicates it will run virtual OS X machines (or emulate EFI). Furthermore, I think doing that without Apple's consent would be a DCMA violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbz Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Moving forward, virtual machines created with any of VMware’s products will run on Intel-based Macs and, similarly, non-Mac OS X virtual machines created with the new product will run on the latest versions of other VMware platform products. That's from the press release. The fact that they say "non-mac OS X virtual machines" means that there will be Mac OS X virtual machines. In order for that to work, they need to implement EFI. No? -Urby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 The fact that they say "non-mac OS X virtual machines" means that there will be Mac OS X virtual machines. That does not mean OS X virtual machines are going to be supported to me. See this: Love your Mac even more with the ability to simultaneously run any PC OS—Windows, Linux, NetWare and others—on Mac OS X http://vmware.rsc02.net/servlet/campaignre...?_ID_=vmwi.1756 And this: VMware... today announced a new product that will enable Intel-based Macs to run x86 operating systems, such as Windows, Linux, NetWare and Solaris, in virtual machines at the same time as Mac OS X http://www.vmware.com/news/releases/mac.html While they are not making it explict, it seems pretty clear to me that VMWare Beta for OS X will not be running virtual OS X machines (nor emulating EFI). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enb14 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 That would be so bad for any mac user that wants to try OSX Server on a virtual environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I think when it said 'non Mac OS X virtual machines' it means VMs created on other platforms. Ie you'd be able to create a VM running, say, Win2k, on a WinXP machine, and then just copy the VM files across to your Mac and boot Win2k under VMWare for Mac. I strongly doubt apple will allow OSX virtualization. On a related note - does osx86 work in parallels? Ie can i run osx86 inside a virtual machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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