Hackingtosh Build Numbers

[forch]

Hi,

Just making a proposal for build numbers. The OSx86 Database is just a joke, they should just leave it for what it is and never have stole it in the first place. An OSx86 Database can't be run by the 'community of this forum'. Information doesn't come easily and second, what might be information for the other is just data for the one giving the 'information' (oooh the good old IT data <=> information discussions). None of the builds that lay here around are in the database, none of the information I've been using (which are very very very simple guide lines) are in the database.

 

Anyway ..

 

Build numbers are just a selection of components, which are versatile parts of your future hack. I'll show two different systems with the build numbers, so you can think for yourself what you can do with them (attach or collect all information needed to get the build up and running).

 

(These are all builds I've done, and lots of more anyway ..)

 

• System 1 (Gigabyte EX58-UD5, i7-920, POV 9400GT 1024) - OSX 10.6.3
  
• System 2 (ASRock P55DE3, i7-750, XFX GTX285 1024) - OSX 10.6.2
  

Adding memory information isn't very useful. It's a compatibility thing between mainboard and memory manufacturers, not the OS.

 

• So the build number for system 1 would be
  • HBN63/X58.792.941T
    

  [*]System 2 would have

  • HBN62/P55.575.TX2851
    

These don't generate randomly, they are all in a database where the chip types can be selected and the HBN generates on that information.

 

Now for the sake of compatibility e.g mainboard (audio, usb, lan, etc) and graphics (just one chip, but different implementations) are the two important components of your PC (CPU is already in the HBN). These can be extended by specifying the manufacturer and the type of product.

 

• HBNE for system 1
  • HBNE63/X58.792.941T-G7.PV3
    

(G7 = Gigabytes 7th X58 mobo, PV3 = POV's 3rd 9400 1024MB card)

• HBNE for system 2
  • HBNE62/P55.575.TX2851-A9.X1
    

(ASRocks 9th P55 mobo, XFX first 285GTX 1024MB production card)

 

Etc, etc, etc.

 

The HBN and HBNE are just very simple numbers, even readable for the ones who know computer hardware in detail.

 

Well I've build this thing for myself anyway, cause I like to have a database with all this information (I'm building a lot of these and in the future). Since nothing really comparable has been proposed, or made, I'll just shoot it in here and who knows ..

 

Cheers

 

--edit

Forgot of course to tell, that the scripts I run on the installed hacks generate the HBN, so I don't have to strip the computer to see which components I used. Second, the HBN is compared to a database which tells me what to do Very simple ..

[XLR]

LOL

[forch]

LOL

 

Exception for XLR's HBN hack,

Badass Motherboard, Ultrafast CPU, Coolest Heatsink, Huge Graphics Card, Tonnes of RAM,

Gigantic Hard Drive, Lightspeed Disk Burner, Professional Sound Card, Massive LCD Display.

 

This would generate:

HBN/BMUCCHHGCTRGHDLDBPSC&MLCDD

 

[Beerkex'd]

Where do you look up which is Asus' 12th P45-based board and which is Leadtek's 3rd 9800 GTX+...?

 

Readability goes down the drain when you have to look up "G8" to find out what is Gigabytes 8th board with chipset X.

 

Maybe I misunderstood something.

[forch]

Where do you look up which is Asus' 12th P45-based board and which is Leadtek's 3rd 9800 GTX+...?

 

Readability goes down the drain when you have to look up "G8" to find out what is Gigabytes 8th board with chipset X.

 

K, in detail:

 

HBNE63/X58.792.941T-G7.PV3

 

Gigabytes 7th mainboard, is the 7th entry in the database for X58 chipset. This means the database gives the reference of what the 7th is.

 

If there was a H58 chipset (hypothetically), HBNE63/H58.792.941T-G7.PV3, then Gigabytes 7th mainboard refers to the H58 product sets of gigabyte, etc. So the chipset and the G (gigabyte) 7, AR(Asrock) 8, A(asus)4, M(msi)7 have a reference to eachoter.

 

Else, if you want the HBNE without the reference to a number, you have to add the mainboards name, e.g. HBNE63/X58.792.941T-GEX58UD5.POV and whatever the Point of Views card name is. This can become a pretty long number if you for example take Asus names .. which just adds up E's and Q's and L's.

 

So if you want to know the exact specification of this number HBNE63/X58.792.941T-G7.PV3, you go to the search entry of my database, press 'search', and all the details of the complete build show up (onboards chips like audio, lan, needed kexts, guides that generate them selfs based on the hardware etc).

 

Of course, my database and the program isn't public, and it ain't finished ..

 

I don't even know if it's useful for the osx86 community

[Beerkex'd]

Gigabytes 7th mainboard, is the 7th entry in the database for X58 chipset. This means the database gives the reference of what the 7th is.

Sorry for being dense, I get it now, you're describing how it works internally.

[forch]

Sorry for being dense, I get it now, you're describing how it works internally.

 

 

Yea

The thing is, based on your hardwares info, the vendors can be selected (there are of course some who have almost the same spec, but just not quite the same) in which the user can further specify what hardware they are using (if needed). This produces a build number. From this point on they can retrieve every info they need. Some builds with a i7 920 are flawless, some are not. Following a guide which says "Intel X58 i7 installation guide" does not work for everyone with a X58 chipset and a i7 cpu.

 

All this information whether or not the build runs, gets lost on a pile of posts hidden somewhere on this forum. Before you even gathered the information needed, you prolly got tired of the mis-information everybody is posting because not everybody's build is clear on which hardware they used and what got it up and running in the first place.

[Beerkex'd]

Really clever. It sounds like it could be useful for finding a motherboard (or comparing several) with a specific feature set.

If you had categorized drop-down menus (or however you want to visualize it) with single components (southbridge, northbridge, LAN make/model, on-board graphics make/model...) then the user could select motherboard parts and narrow down a search to show for example only boards with X58, ICH10R, Firewire 800 and USB 3.

 

I agree with what you're saying about information getting lost. The signal to noise ratio is extreme.

[forch]

Yep that's the plan.

 

The options are endless when all the information is presented in this way.