mitch_de Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Luxmark ist very conpatible with an wide range of gpus (like smallluxgpu Midrange / Ulta Lucball) is the best tool to measure OpenCL speed. The problem with OceanWave (orig. Apple Code), low FPS, may come by its very complex code base, which may optimized for special kind of gpus (older ones). The 0 Mhz shown for compute MHz (Shader MHz) comes from the OpenCL driver, which may not really know all of that gpu. You will find, after starting smallluxGPU these + other GPU infos the OpenCL driver reads out of the gpu in the console log of the app. There will be shown that 0 MHz also. For the low FPS thats not the reason - must be other, source code problem from Apple. OpenCL is very dependend from source optimisation for gpu types - if doenst fit good = slow or if OpenCL driver doesnt fit (in all used functions, LUxmark uses much less functions that OcenWave) also reason for slowiness. You see in this case, why OpenCl (doesnt matter Win/Linux/MAc) isnt really used. And even Apple, an major member of the OpenCL group doenst use it until now - only procuce some OpemCL demos (like Grass, OceanWave,...) which have more/less problems with some gpus. CUDA ist more further, but has less work for the devs, because must only "think" for Nvidia GPUs and not also ATI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an1r0n Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Hey guys, Just wanted to see any thoughts on freeze issues with GTX 460. I installed Chameleon RC5 (latest build) and copied kext's and open gl framework from the start of this thread. Didn't work out, graphics card got recognized, but it showed 0 Mhz and GUI was extremely slow. Then I installed latest nVidia Quadro 4000 for Mac drivers and it got perfectly recognized. Everyhting works, both monitors recognized, speed good (a bit choppy expose occasionally), full resolutions but then KP's started (error in NVDAGF100Hal.kext) What's next? What can be done? Thanks! an1r0n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnifico Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Hi man...mine zotac 470 gtx does not work, has grafic enabler =yes, must install the package nvidia update? Help me please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Vermelho Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 If you're running Snow Leopard, then yes (as has been said countless times) installing the Quadro 4000 drivers from nvidia is a requirement - the Snow Leopard nvidia drivers have no fermi support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubber_77 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 with last update Mac os x Lion (11A444d) My Nvidia GTX470 was not found 1 OpenCL platform found! [Platform 0] Name: Apple Vendor: Apple Version: OpenCL 1.1 (Apr 21 2011 19:54:46) Profile: FULL_PROFILE Extensions: cl_APPLE_SetMemObjectDestructor cl_APPLE_ContextLoggingFunctions cl_APPLE_clut cl_APPLE_query_kernel_names cl_APPLE_gl_sharing cl_khr_gl_event [OpenCL-only Context] 1 OpenCL device found! [Device 0] Name: Intel® Core(tm) i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93GHz Vendor: Intel Type: CPU Device Version: OpenCL 1.1 Driver Version: 1.1 Compute Units: 8 Work Group Size: 1024 Clock: 2931 MHz Global Memory (Total): 4096 MB Global Memory (Host): 4096 MB Global Memory (PCIe): 0 MB Local Memory: 32 KB Cache Size: 0.0625 KB Cache Line Size: 8388608 Bytes Available: Yes Double-Precision: Yes Extensions: cl_APPLE_SetMemObjectDestructor cl_APPLE_ContextLoggingFunctions cl_APPLE_clut cl_APPLE_query_kernel_names cl_APPLE_gl_sharing cl_khr_gl_event cl_khr_fp64 cl_khr_global_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_global_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_base_atomics cl_khr_local_int32_extended_atomics cl_khr_byte_addressable_store cl_khr_int64_base_atomics cl_khr_int64_extended_atomics cl_khr_3d_image_writes cl_APPLE_fp64_basic_ops cl_APPLE_fixed_alpha_channel_orders cl_APPLE_biased_fixed_point_image_formats logout sorry for mu english... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch_de Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 with last update Mac os x Lion (11A444d) My Nvidia GTX470 was not found 1 OpenCL platform found! [Platform 0] Name: Apple Vendor: Apple Version: OpenCL 1.1 (Apr 21 2011 19:54:46) Profile: FULL_PROFILE Extensions: cl_APPLE_SetMemObjectDestructor cl_APPLE_ContextLoggingFunctions cl_APPLE_clut cl_APPLE_query_kernel_names cl_APPLE_gl_sharing cl_khr_gl_event [OpenCL-only Context] 1 OpenCL device found! [Device 0] Name: Intel® Core(tm) i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93GHz Vendor: Intel Type: CPU Device Version: OpenCL 1.1 sorry for mu english... Yep, thats the situation when only CPU as OpenCL device is found - always at least the CPU is found / GPU depends on knowing GPU by OpenCL drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubber_77 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Yep, thats the situation when only CPU as OpenCL device is found - always at least the CPU is found / GPU depends on knowing GPU by OpenCL drivers. in 430e GTX470 has supported OpenCl, and all benchmarks opencl was successful. Now, with 444d, it's lost this option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cure72 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 GTX 460 1Gb OpenCL OceanWave not work OpenCL OceanWave:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Multiple GPUs found Using device[0] for compute: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 OpenCL 1.1 Using device[0] for rendering: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 OpenCL 1.1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Connecting to NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Building compute program... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Building compute kernels... OpenCL Warning : clBuildProgram failed: could not build program for device[0] 0x101d33ea8 (GeForce GTX 460) (err:-44) [CL_BUILD_ERROR] : OpenCL Build Error : Compiler build log: Error getting function data from server FFT program build log on device GeForce GTX 460 Error getting function data from server [CL_INVALID_PROGRAM_EXECUTABLE] : OpenCL Error : Failed to create kernel! Could not find a device with a built executable for this kernel. Failed to create fft plan! Failed to initialize CL But all other tests work. Does not work sending the results. Mac OS X 10.7 (11A419) smallluxGPU_beta 1.8.2 GALAXIES works too ,OpenCL Displacement Bench works too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubber_77 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 GALAXIES works too ,OpenCL Displacement Bench works too LuxMark 1.0 not work (GPU). please, attach GALAXIES benchmark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netkas Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 meh, just post device info output, no need for this pointless amount of benchmarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch_de Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Also some new ATI GPUs (like 6xxx in orig. Mac) have problems with some OpenCL benches, like OpenCL Filter bench or Ocenwave. Thats for sure the reason, even Apple dont use OpenCL since now in his apps. Other to CUDA, which is already used in some Mac OS X apps (Squeeze 7, Toast 11). OpenCL needs some more time - CUDA has started much earlier and is now more useable than OpenCL. In next 1-2 years OepnCl will be same usability as CUDA now, but has major benefit of AMD/Nvidia and not Nvidia only. Be patient with OpenCl - OpenGL working is much more interest for Fermi & Co than OpenCl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginosih Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 hi guys, have a big problem... i've a gtx460 nvidia 1gb ddr5...when i try to install 10.7 dp2, with [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] or xpc i've PCI CONFIGURATION BEGIN... and blocked for hours..do you have news about this? tnx.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginosih Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cure72 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 ginosih Use Chameleon-2.0-RC5-r755 http://www.kexts.com/view/1157-chameleon-2.0-rc5-r755_[pkg_installer].html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginosih Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 ginosihUse Chameleon-2.0-RC5-r755 http://www.kexts.com/view/1157-chameleon-2.0-rc5-r755_[pkg_installer].html tnx... but same error .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubber_77 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Now we have native support for nvidia Fermi on Mac os x 10.6 Link DOWNLOAD Only Nvidia Drivers sorry for my english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diwad Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Hey m8, where did you take it from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubber_77 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Hey m8, where did you take it from? this question for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diwad Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Yes. Is it some new driver or beta one? Some custom, community made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubber_77 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Yes. Is it some new driver or beta one? Some custom, community made? the first link in my previous message refers to the Apple site, and if you click on this link, then you can see this is a new driver, which is likely to be included in next update I extracted only the NVIDIA drivers and added them to the archive. Link to the archive can be found in a previous post sorry for my english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diwad Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Ok m8, thanks you. I installed it and see some real graphics speedup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch_de Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 You may try also smallluxGPU 1.8.2Beta ( if you got OpenCL working ) , which as new OceanWave OpenCL FPS bench and funktion to send results (Luxball Ultra,Mid and OceanWave) as email to add in the next RC at the results tab. https://www.rapidshare.com/files/457540119/...luxGPU_beta.zip My Nvidia 9600GT gets 22 FPS in OceanWave (pure OpenCL+OpenGL) and 119 Sec in Luxball Ultra. Fastest Luxball Ultra are from ATI GPus around 25 Sec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mitch_de Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Great ! Here some other (emailed to me): Vladimir: MacPro3,1 OpenCL GPU 0: GeForce GTX 480 1401 MHz CPU: Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz 3072 MHz Result=Luxball Ultra 20,5 sec sec Mac OS X 10.6.7 OceanWave Display: 59.41 fps Matt: MacPro3,1 OpenCL GPU 0: GeForce GTX 460 1526 MHz CPU: Intel® Core i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz 3411 MHz Result=Luxball Ultra 21.3 sec sec Mac OS X 10.6.7 OceanWave Display: 86.19 fps PS: Also CPU type + Systembusspeed has effect on the OpenCL speed - at least then when OpenCL+OpenGL works together like OceanWave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubber_77 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 strange.... for me: OceanWave Display: 13 fps why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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