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rabbit, I see what you mean with the screen tearing issue, highly noticeable even moving a windows around slowly.

 

Does this have anything to do with GTX465 flashed to GTX470? No one else has brought this up?

 

I get it at the top 1/3 of the screen but not on the lower 1/3. Some way to force vsync?

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rabbit, I see what you mean with the screen tearing issue, highly noticeable even moving a windows around slowly.

 

Does this have anything to do with GTX465 flashed to GTX470? No one else has brought this up?

 

I get it at the top 1/3 of the screen but not on the lower 1/3. Some way to force vsync?

 

Hey,

 

I get some screen "tearing" when I view movies in full screen mode on a real GTX 470.

 

-Tom

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Does this have anything to do with GTX465 flashed to GTX470? No one else has brought this up?

 

A few people with non flashed 470 also have the same video tearing. Based on the number of people who said so, I was thinking everyone with 4xx card had the issue.

 

Works beautifully in windows. Haven't tested it in Linux yet. I'll give that a try too just to be sure.

 

rabbit

 

edit/ Tested in Linux = No Problem. Card works great. However the latest nVidia Linux drivers are just as bad as always. haha.

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I have tearing with

 

- EVGA gtx 470 (real)

- SL 10.6.4

- Nvidia 19.5.8f03 drivers

- SL Graphics Update

 

Does anyone have 470 without tearing issues?

 

Has anyone resolved their tearing issues?

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I have tested it exhaustively and am certain it is the drivers.

 

Apple is working on a series of new drivers for high end graphics now and I expect to see something come out soon. Whether it improves out plight or not is still anyone's guess.

 

rabbit

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Hello, I've read the first 10 pages and then followed the guide in the first post with Aug 3, 2010 method.

 

I've got Zotac GTX470 AMP! Edition with P45-UD3P motherboard. When I boot I can see chameleon theme loading and boot continues with rotating circle. However, shortly after screen is slowly greyed out and I get message "Hold Power Button..."

 

I'm not a huge Hackintosh specialist - originally installed it with Lifehacker guide. I really don't know how to proceed from here.

 

A few questions that after a short Google search I can't find answers to:

1. Is there any way to boot from Chameleon into a some sort of command line environment (like a command line on Linux when X is not loading)

2. Without reinstalling, is there any way to boot into Safe mode (tried holding Shift key - but same "Hold Power Button" message.

3. Is there a boot log file that I can look into (I can boot into Linux and review the logs from there).

 

Also, I've applied the instructions from the first post while using my old 8600GT video card, once I rebooted I checked with OpenGL viewer tool and found out that I've lost any OpenGL acceleration. Why is this? Also hardware info tool showed that I have 0MB video memory.

 

Thank you.

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Hello, I've read the first 10 pages and then followed the guide in the first post with Aug 3, 2010 method.

 

I've got Zotac GTX470 AMP! Edition with P45-UD3P motherboard. When I boot I can see chameleon theme loading and boot continues with rotating circle. However, shortly after screen is slowly greyed out and I get message "Hold Power Button..."

 

I'm not a huge Hackintosh specialist - originally installed it with Lifehacker guide. I really don't know how to proceed from here.

 

A few questions that after a short Google search I can't find answers to:

1. Is there any way to boot from Chameleon into a some sort of command line environment (like a command line on Linux when X is not loading)

2. Without reinstalling, is there any way to boot into Safe mode (tried holding Shift key - but same "Hold Power Button" message.

3. Is there a boot log file that I can look into (I can boot into Linux and review the logs from there).

 

Also, I've applied the instructions from the first post while using my old 8600GT video card, once I rebooted I checked with OpenGL viewer tool and found out that I've lost any OpenGL acceleration. Why is this? Also hardware info tool showed that I have 0MB video memory.

 

Thank you.

 

1. type -s at the Chameleon prompt to boot into single user mode.

2. -x will boot you into safe mode

3. -v will boot in verbose mode so you can see what's causing the crash.

 

-Tom

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1. type -s at the Chameleon prompt to boot into single user mode.

2. -x will boot you into safe mode

3. -v will boot in verbose mode so you can see what's causing the crash.

 

-Tom

 

Tom thank you for your fast reply.

 

A slight update. I've repeated all the steps again and I think I made it to work. This time I used KExt Utility to clean caches instead of Onyx that I've used the first time (this being the only thing different). Please add a link to KExt Utility to the first post this will help a lot of newbies like I am.

 

Where can I read more about configuring chameleon? Right now I have a "dumb" mode I think where I have first "Press any button" message, once I press a button I get into HDD selection mode. I don't see any console where I can type commands (there might be some key which I have not discovered so far).

 

So in summary now everything is working and even OpenCL - it runs Ultrahigh GPU benchmark in 0.9 second which is pretty nice.

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Tom thank you for your fast reply.

 

A slight update. I've repeated all the steps again and I think I made it to work. This time I used KExt Utility to clean caches instead of Onyx that I've used the first time (this being the only thing different). Please add a link to KExt Utility to the first post this will help a lot of newbies like I am.

 

Where can I read more about configuring chameleon? Right now I have a "dumb" mode I think where I have first "Press any button" message, once I press a button I get into HDD selection mode. I don't see any console where I can type commands (there might be some key which I have not discovered so far).

 

So in summary now everything is working and even OpenCL - it runs Ultrahigh GPU benchmark in 0.9 second which is pretty nice.

 

Just start typing on the HDD selection mode screen with the right partition selected then press enter to boot.

 

-Tom

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So in summary now everything is working and even OpenCL - it runs Ultrahigh GPU benchmark in 0.9 second which is pretty nice.

 

Sorry, that 0,9 sec arent "real" - Ultra benchmark runs much longer, even with that gpu. If smallluxGPU (slg backgroundtask exact) aborts or even not run gpu and CPU only you get those fast results.

You can check real working OpenCL by using the interactive modes - you see than if gpu really works (line with gpu name and kSamples/Sec) or CPU only - only lines of native kSamples/Sec and no gpu type line on bottom of the scene window.

 

PS: The lastest smalluxGPU version is 1.7.1V3 (within the newest instances scene, with 120 million triangles)

http://www.rapidshare.com/files/410151278/...uxGPU171_V3.zip

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Whenever I try to copy the kexts into the Extensions folder, I get several messages saying "System extension cannot be used. The system extension was installed improperly and cannot be used."

 

I tried repairing disk permissions 4 times in a row and it didn't seem to help at all. Any way to fix this?

 

EDIT: Nvm, wasn't using Kext Helper correctly.

 

Except now my screen goes blank right before OSX boots. :D

 

EDIT 2: Looks like Chameleon recognizes the card under verbose booting (it's an ASUS GTX 470). Only problem now is when it boots up I cannot change resolution from 1024x768. Any suggestions?

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Pink Waters
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Sorry guys, I couldn't handle the pressure nor the the fear of the unknown..

I snapped.. :D

I ordered a XFX HD 5870 :)

even though I am an nVIDIA guy.., I really wanted a 470 so bad..

but I guess the 5870 is the same performance and even a little bit more.. but I will miss PhysX and CUDA though. :(

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After almost a Week of messing around with different bootloaders, how-to's and different frameworks/kexts, i hit a wall with my new eVGA GTX 470.

What works: DVI, micro-HDMI, Core Image, Resolutions, Card detection with Firmware in the System Profiler.

I got it to work multiple times with multiple installations, but it's always dog slow.

Followed multiple tutorials on a lot of test-installs, i got everything: just card detection, Blank screen, Black screen, corrupted OS and other errors. The following problem results from the new how-to in the first post.

 

Below are some OpenGL Extensions Viewer benchmarks of my old 9800GTX+ and my new GTX470.

 

9800GTX+:

9800GTX.png

 

GTX470:

GTX470.png

 

As you can see the GTX470 is 20 times slower than the old card.

Are you guys having this problem as well?

 

(Games are unplayable slow or crash outright.)

 

A little thing i noticed on the Hardware side:

In Windows i noticed that the GTX470 clocks way down to about 60MHz when the card is idle (to save Power), and it clocks right up to normal (more than 600MHz) when a Game or a Benchmark starts to display it's full power.

 

During the low idle Mode the Card is very cool at about 35 °C and during normal Mode it gets quickly up to 65+ °C.

(I have 40% OC on the System, but my Gelid third party cooler keeps it really cool)

I have a Hardware temp sensor planted on the Card so i can confirm the temps on the PC Case.

 

When booted in OSX the GTX470 doesn't go into normal Mode, it stays always at the low 35 °C (idle Mode), that's why the Card spits out the low FPS everywhere.

Is there something to make it snap out of idle mode?

 

Sorry if this was already mentioned above somewhere, i've read a lot of tutorials the past week and don't know whats from where anymore... :)

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cmf
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As you can see the GTX470 is 20 times slower than the old card.

Are you guys having this problem as well?

yes, see the last 400+ posts ... but your gtx 470 is doing especially worse. solution: wait for new drivers

 

In Windows i noticed that the GTX470 clocks way down to about 60MHz when the card is idle (to save Power), and it clocks right up to normal (more than 600MHz) when a Game or a Benchmark starts to display it's full power.

 

During the low idle Mode the Card is very cool at about 35 °C and during normal Mode it gets quickly up to 65+ °C.

(I have 40% OC on the System, but my Gelid third party cooler keeps it really cool)

I have a Hardware temp sensor planted on the Card so i can confirm the temps on the PC Case.

 

When booted in OSX the GTX470 doesn't go into normal Mode, it stays always at the low 35 °C (idle Mode), that's why the Card spits out the low FPS everywhere.

Is there something to make it snap out of idle mode?

i also figured that this could be part of the problem. the brute force solution would be to overwrite the low power profiles with the high power profile in the bios. i don't want to try this though :)

does anyone know if the bios overwrite option in chameleon works correctly and would make such a thing possible?

 

 

@the people using kext helper/utilities: imho these are doing more harm than good. why don't you simply use "cp" and "rm"?

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...but your gtx 470 is doing especially worse. solution: wait for new drivers

 

Yeah, i thought the same. I've seen benchmarks of this Card in OSX from others with 1000-2000 Points, but i don't know why the card scores so low here.

1000-2000 Points would be acceptable while waiting for new drivers, but 200 is too low for anything.

Might have to cannibal my old system for the 9800GTX, and put a cheap one in there for the time being...

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Smoothny
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Hey ya,

 

I'm kind a frustrated at the moment trying to get my gainward gtx470 to work.

Had to reinstall Macos for many times now so that leads me to my question.

Is there a way to modify files in single user mode? it always tells me "read only

filesystem". the main problem is, i can't boot to macos desktop because of black

screen problem. Reinstalling all the time is freaking me out. :)

 

greetz smoothny

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mitch_de
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I like OpenGLExtensionsviewer as Bench very much.

But maybe an "thing" i seen with newest drivers (Aug/2010) , even its an NV 8800GTX can be helpfull.

I get same FPS with 0 Multi and 8*Multi what can NOT BE OK with my 8800GTX.

In the past there was an HUGE diff 0 vs 8* Multi !

Perhaps newest NV drivers have some probs even with other GPUs like my 8800GTX.

 

What happens with your gpus if you compare 0* and 8* Mullti - i use always the benchmark option too.

You could also check/Bench FPS with my new smallOpenGL FPS Bench - (reference results already available)

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=228175

Be free to post your results in that thread for compare.

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mitch_de
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I had used V325 with VideoROM with my 8800GTX.

It also loads (modded BIOS hown in Systemprofiler) but no MHZ changes - they are within the modded bios by Ntibitor.

Can it be newer V357 helps OR can it be that mostly/sometimes MHZ clocking modds (i mean OC/UC) in Video BIOS didnt work by loading only by flashing ?

Same OC/UC modd flashing instaed of videorom load worked.

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i also figured that this could be part of the problem. the brute force solution would be to overwrite the low power profiles with the high power profile in the bios. i don't want to try this though :D

does anyone know if the bios overwrite option in chameleon works correctly and would make such a thing possible?

 

Found a tool that does this. (NiBiTor)

http://www.mvktech.net/content/view/4846/143/

 

 

Appearently you can modify the Bios of the Card to use the high power profile.

(GeForce 5 FX/6/7/8/9/200/400 Series)

Anybody have a spare GTX470 or 480 lying around for some experiments? :D

(Be careful not to brick your Card.)

 

As for me i have put the GTX470 in my Media Centre PC and used my old 9800GTX+ again for my new hack. (good Card, Drivers are great)

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