nullspot Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 so there's a guy named "dwem" on another thread that seems to have no problems with HDMI video on his GTX260 running 10.6.4 note he's got two native DVI ports and is using an adapter... can someone who's been having this HDMI problem confirm if it's been established already that the GTX260 suffers from the same problem? or is this card actually immune for some reason? He doesn't think he's done anything special (though he's using cartri gigabyte bios i think)... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1492917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_charlie Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 My 8800GT has two native DVI ports and I use an adapter DVI to HDMI cable. So far, I hadn't experienced any issues since 10.5.6. On 10.6.4 my performance is still the same on games like Portal, Team Fortress 2 and COD4. All games I play at 1920x1200 with all settings maxxed out. Almost all the time I get 60 FPS with those settings and VSync enabled. Cheers! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1492967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemesisX64 Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Can anyone who has this problem please confirm that they have the blue, vga (d-sub) connector on their card and not the dual dvi? Thanks. EDIT: the above thesis was totally wrong. I have tested with many GPUs and here are my findings: 9800GT 1GB - VGA,DVI,HDMI - only vga and dvi work, hdmi and dvi-hdmi connector don't work 9800GTX 512MB - DVI,DVI,S-Video - DVI and DVI work separately and dual display, DVI-HDMI connector don't work on any of 2 DVI connectors, never tested s-video 9800GTX+ 1GB - Same as 9800GTX GT210 - HDMI,DVI,VGA - all works fine would be nice if we had the full table of these that work. Note that these have been all tested with GraphicsEnabler=yes without an EFI string. 9800GT was tested with everything including GE,NVE, Bios Fix, EFI Strings but it still wouldn't work. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1493010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
altares Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 Who told you about the 210GT working fine with HDMI? I've searched everywhere without finding any clue about that. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1495306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullspot Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 so heythisisdave posted on another thread about this odd kext: I tried disabling the AppleUpstreamUserClient.kext and it fixed the jumpiness of the mouse but it also disabled my second monitor. It appears that the kext does things like HDCP handling it appears this kext in the past was responsible for various graphics problems - but can anyone confirm that simply unloading it gets rid of HDCP handling? Because if our HDMI issues are HDCP related, it would seem this could affect it... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1495561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shremi Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 it appears this kext in the past was responsible for various graphics problems - but can anyone confirm that simply unloading it gets rid of HDCP handling? Because if our HDMI issues are HDCP related, it would seem this could affect it... At least for me, i can assure you it is a hdcp problem why ??? If i use the hdmi port on my card with a DVI adapter and hook it to the monitor via DVI dual link i dont get the black screen of death. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1495923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephira Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Anyone tried 10.6.4 with the new drivers NVidia have released to cure this problem? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1496197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
will1384 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I installed them, no change it appears this kext in the past was responsible for various graphics problems - but can anyone confirm that simply unloading it gets rid of HDCP handling? Because if our HDMI issues are HDCP related, it would seem this could affect it... No it wont help, its already disabled on my system Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1496280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wael Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 hi all after reading every post on this topic the only solution for Gigabyte 9800GT Silent Cell is by renaming the rom file from one of the posts (8800gt) to 10de_0614.rom and put it in extra folder and adding plist with <key>GraphicsEnabler</key> <string>yes</string> <key>UseNvidiaROM</key> <string>yes</string> <key>VBIOS</key> <string>yes</string> i tested and i confirmed that is worked for me i have 32 samsung connecting with hdmi by dvi/hdmi converter with another old samsung monitor connecting by vga the 2 monitors working good !! any one did as i did ??? any update ?!!! thanx for all Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1496579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilenkovski Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I've tried with no luck on ASUS ENGTS 250 DVI HDMI VGA. Only VGA works. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1496986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Vermelho Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Ref. AppleUpstreamUserClient.kext No it wont help, its already disabled on my system You misread, it needs to be enabled. Read the quote from 'heythisisdave' again. If any of you are using a disabler.kext, remove the part in info.plist that disables AppleUpstreamUserClient.kext, or if you're on a vanilla install, just delete disabler.kext. It's not needed on systems that can run the vanilla kernel. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1496998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Jay_ Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Can anyone who has this problem please confirm that they have the blue, vga (d-sub) connector on their card and not the dual dvi? Thanks. EDIT: the above thesis was totally wrong. I have tested with many GPUs and here are my findings: 9800GT 1GB - VGA,DVI,HDMI - only vga and dvi work, hdmi and dvi-hdmi connector don't work 9800GTX 512MB - DVI,DVI,S-Video - DVI and DVI work separately and dual display, DVI-HDMI connector don't work on any of 2 DVI connectors, never tested s-video 9800GTX+ 1GB - Same as 9800GTX GT210 - HDMI,DVI,VGA - all works fine would be nice if we had the full table of these that work. Note that these have been all tested with GraphicsEnabler=yes without an EFI string. 9800GT was tested with everything including GE,NVE, Bios Fix, EFI Strings but it still wouldn't work. I have tested S-Video-S-Video, black/blue screen. My monitor doesn't even register that the computer is on(even though it is)when I use S-Video-component cables. I have never been able to get S-Video working with any Mac OS Xs, so I don't know. I tried though. hi all after reading every post on this topic the only solution for Gigabyte 9800GT Silent Cell is by renaming the rom file from one of the posts (8800gt) to 10de_0614.rom and put it in extra folder and adding plist with <key>GraphicsEnabler</key> <string>yes</string> <key>UseNvidiaROM</key> <string>yes</string> <key>VBIOS</key> <string>yes</string> i tested and i confirmed that is worked for me i have 32 samsung connecting with hdmi by dvi/hdmi converter with another old samsung monitor connecting by vga the 2 monitors working good !! any one did as i did ??? any update ?!!! thanx for all Good and glad that it works for you, but what about you gfx performance? Have you lost performance? Do you still have full Quatz functionality? Do you have to remove efi string from boot.plist if you have one in there? Can you use 1080p resolutions? Before you encountered the black screen issue, when you could use hdmi freely, the resolutions you had before...do you have them now since you began using this new method with the Vbios? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1497032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
will1384 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Ref. AppleUpstreamUserClient.kext You misread, it needs to be enabled. Read the quote from 'heythisisdave' again. If any of you are using a disabler.kext, remove the part in info.plist that disables AppleUpstreamUserClient.kext, or if you're on a vanilla install, just delete disabler.kext. It's not needed on systems that can run the vanilla kernel. I had disabled AppleUpstreamUserClient.kext by renaming it, in an effort to fix the problem, there is no change for me with or with out AppleUpstreamUserClient.kext I have never used disabler.kext Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1497076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
altares Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Please, can anyone confirm that the GT210 works in HDMI mode? In that case, I'm willing to add a PCI-Express 1X card to my 9800GTX+ which will still be hooked to my main display via DVI. Future Setup : 2 cards, 210GT HDMI -> TV and 9800GTX+ DVI -> Main display. What do you think? Can this work? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1497272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Jay_ Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 The method of using the 8800gt bios works for me. I am using DVI-HDMI as I type on my 42 inch samsung HDTV. I am about to try my Vbios for my 9800GTX and will report back. Wish me luck. EDIT: UPDATE....No dice. DVI-HDMI does not work with any other Vbios that I tried, other than the 8800GT Vbios. I tried from the 8600GTS and up and the only one that worked for me was the 8800GT. Note that I have the BFG 9800GTX OC 512mb. Don't know if that has something to do with it but shouldn't because I used BFG Vbios. This is what my System profiler says when I use the 8800gt Vbios: GeForce 9800 GTX: Chipset Model: GeForce 9800 GTX Type: GPU Bus: PCIe Slot: Slot-1 PCIe Lane Width: x16 VRAM (Total): 512 MB Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID: 0x0612 Revision ID: 0x00a2 ROM Revision: xx.xx.xx - NVIDIA.rom Displays: SAMSUNG: Resolution: 1280 x 720 @ 60 Hz Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888) Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Rotation: Supported Television: Yes VGA Display: Resolution: 800 x 600 @ 60 Hz Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888) Mirror: Off Online: Yes Rotation: Supported Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1497742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
altares Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Maybe my 1Gb of VRAM is the issue here, yours has the same amount as the real 8800 GTs (512MB). Did you do anything specific? apart from running Chameleon RC4 with Graphics Enabler and the Nvidia.rom ? Are you using your TV as the main display? In my case, I always put the TV as my secondary with DVI-HDMI. My main monitor stays the same on the primary DVI. Did you try this setup? Congratulations for your 10.6.4 Nvidia Hackintosh ! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1497939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Jay_ Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 <key>Kernel</key> <string>legacy_kernel</string> <key>Kernel Flags</key> <string>arch=x86_64</string> <key>Instant Menu</key> <string>Yes</string> <key>GraphicsEnabler</key> <string>Yes</string> <key>VideoROM</key> <string>NVIDIA.rom</string> <key>VBIOS</key> <string>yes</string> That's all that I have in my boot.plist. I am only using my TV as the main display cause I don't use dual monitor(Don't need it i think) I don't think that it matters how much ram you have. I am using the rev.1 of the 8800GT from BFG. What card do you have? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1497996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
altares Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Mine is a noname Nvidia 9800GTX+ with 1GB Memory. Thank you for the precisions, I will try this weekend with the TV directly on the first DVI port. At least to see if it works as it is not my ideal setup. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1498036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
idoc Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 Thanks for the tip el_charlie! I installed the 8800GTbios 2D3D.rom file in /Extra and renamed it to match my Device and Revision ID /Extra/10de_0605.rom and checked the boxes for "Use Nvidia ROM" and VBIOS in chameleon preference pane and video is back for dual samsung plasmas on my HTPC connected by HDMI cables (one over an ethernet extender). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1498835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djspacee Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Has anybody managed to figure this issue out? I've got a Gainward GTS 250 1GB, so if anyone knows how to get HDMi working properly on this card i would be stupidly gratefull! Just got my new computer, and bought it after 10.6.3 came out, so have never experienced the HDMI out on my card, and don't want to downgrade to 10.6.2 and lose corei5 support, but I'm nearly at the end of my tether with this issue and really am considering it :-( Cheers guys Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1500930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcumbo Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 I have a very similar problem (iatkus 10.6.3). When I boot it remains on a blank blue screen. But if I boot with the disk in (hit F8 and choose hard disk) it boots and works well. I have no idea what the problem is but I reckon it's something related to the bootloader since with the iatkos disk it works well. By the way, I'm using VGA to connect it to my LCDTV. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1501459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyrogyro Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 I'm using a Galaxy GTS 250 512MB (which is essentially a 9800GTX) on a 46" Sharp Aquos LCD. Ever since 10.6.2 I've been experiencing issues with HDMI connections and the WindowServer crash causing a black screen. All works well with Straight DVI to a standard 17" Monitor. When running 10.6.3+, no matter how I connect digitally DVI->HDMI or HDMI->HDMI to my 46" I always get the same result. Black screen of death. I've tried the MacPro8800GT.rom, Cartri MacBios, GraphicsEnabler=Yes using Chameleon RC4+5prerelease and Asere BLN 1.9, and countless other suggestions but no luck. Complete system specs are in my sig, but I'm seriously frustrated and thinking of buying a 285 and just paying the 400+ to avoid the grief. If anyone has a working GTS 250 card on a HDMI connection I'd really appreciate some feedback. Thanks in Advance Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1501818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Jay_ Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Use Galaxy rom file attached below and put it in your /Extra folder where your com.apple.Boot.plist is and add these lines to your boot.plist file <key>VBIOS</key> <string>yes</string> <key>VideoROM</key> <string>NVIDIA.rom</string> Remove any GFX strings/EFI strings for your video card that you might have in your boot.plist file and also anything else to do with your video card including graphics enabler and all that.(NOTE: don't hold me responsible if it doesn't work the same way for you, I'm just going off of what I have. I know it won't kill your card for sure so good luck). Anyone else that has a BFG 9800GTX(I saw someone else with one in this thread), you can try the BFG file below. Same instructions apply. Good Luck. Jay Galaxy.zip BFG_8800GT.zip Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1502881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenewcraze Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 So this will work with HDMI-HDMI or HDMI-DVI? I've been going crazy for a solution as I am not able to use VGA or DVI without some HDMI connection in between. Will try now. Thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1502884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Jay_ Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 To the best of my knowledge, it works with DVI-HDMI. I do not know about HDMI-HDMI, I assume it should because DVI and HDMI are electronically the same and Digitally I think as well. But I don't know for sure. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/214129-1063-nvidia-blank-screen-issue-with-dvihdmi-on-9800gt/page/8/#findComment-1502894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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