Kakewalk: Minimal effort install (EP45, EX58, P55, G41)

[kh602]

Does anyone know how to install SL 10.6.3. with a gigabyte EX58 EXTREME (Rev 1 F12 BIOS) mobo? I am guessing i can't use this to install as there all different mobos

 

cheers

[VinP14]

our mobos are different but Tom Sawyer on here (he posted a lot on previous pages) has a rev 1.0 X58A-UD3R like yours and almost everything worked out of the box for him using 2.2... go back and search for his posts.

 

I will search for those after a few runs with [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url]. it gets me 10.6.0 fully functional. I might try the Kakewalk bootloader or MyHack with that.

 

clearly my board is not acting as it should

[mazmorbid]

Does anyone know how to install SL 10.6.3. with a gigabyte EX58 EXTREME (Rev 1 F12 BIOS) mobo? I am guessing i can't use this to install as there all different mobos

 

cheers

 

Essentially the EX58-Extreme motherboard is the same as the X58A-UD7, so you could give that a go.

[krrh]

Has anyone used Kakewalk to install Snow Leopard on a GA-G41M-es2h motherboard (not es2l)? I ran through the installation, choosing the es2l motherboard options. The install was successful absent sound and ethernet, both of which I cannot make work. I was hoping that someone with experience with this motherboard could help point me in the right direction. It doesn't appear that there are many posts on the board -- or Internet, in general -- related to SL on this motherboard.

 

Thanks for any help, and thanks to the developer for putting the time and effort into Kakewalk.

[tilly042]

It may have been mentioned in this thread, but I forsee a problem with using Kakewalk. I have the X58 chipset and want to install snow leopard. How do I go about doing this if the Kakewalklegacy.iso is known to not work with my chipset. What other options are there?

 

I'm wanting to prepare this disc from Windows, I don't have Mac, I want to use my PC as a Mac, that's the whole point.

 

I would be happy to learn that I am missing something fundamental and obvious because then it would be easy to remedy!

 

The instructions on the kakewalk website are minimal. I'd be happy for a link to a post explaining this but I feel I'm a little to far outside the loop here and flailing around a little.

 

brief help appreciated.

[kh602]

Essentially the EX58-Extreme motherboard is the same as the X58A-UD7, so you could give that a go.

 

Yea i have thought about doing that because they look pritty much the same. And bios on all gigabyte x58 will practically be the same. looks like i will have to get some dual layer discs to burn my SL 10.6.3

[Going Bald]

Essentially the EX58-Extreme motherboard is the same as the X58A-UD7, so you could give that a go.

 

Keep in mind that word "essentially". The boards are close, but the Extreme does not have the Marvel chipset for 6Gb/s on 2 of the SATA ports and the sound codec is ALC889A instead of the ALC889(without the A) that the UD7 has. You could probably use the GA-X58-UD7 install files with the GA-EX58-EXTREME and most things will work, but you will need to find a kext file for the ALC889A.

 

Yea i have thought about doing that because they look pritty much the same. And bios on all gigabyte x58 will practically be the same. looks like i will have to get some dual layer discs to burn my SL 10.6.3

 

It should work, but keep in mind that Win7 doesn't like to share disk space with OS X - it's possible to do it, but you need to start with a clean disk and go through all sorts of hassle to make it work. I would get a separate HDD for the SL install. Another thing to keep in mind is that every time you boot Win7 after having booted OS X, you will probably need to reset the tray clock - mine gains exactly 5 hours every time I boot Win7 after having OS X up and running. I see from your spec you have a firewire audio. That's good because you won't need the ALC889A kext for sound your board needs.

 

It may have been mentioned in this thread, but I forsee a problem with using Kakewalk. I have the X58 chipset and want to install snow leopard. How do I go about doing this if the Kakewalklegacy.iso is known to not work with my chipset. What other options are there?

 

I'm wanting to prepare this disc from Windows, I don't have Mac, I want to use my PC as a Mac, that's the whole point.

 

I would be happy to learn that I am missing something fundamental and obvious because then it would be easy to remedy!

 

The instructions on the kakewalk website are minimal. I'd be happy for a link to a post explaining this but I feel I'm a little to far outside the loop here and flailing around a little.

 

brief help appreciated.

 

What board do you have? What video card? If you can't get Kakewalk to work, have you tried any other methods? You might want to give this a try:

http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/

Several people who couldn't get Kakewalk to work had success with it.

[Jeff.H]

FYI on the clock issue, OSX sets hardware time to UTC and lets the OS determine what timezone you are in. Pretty much the same thing Linux does except that when you install Linux it usually gives you the option to set hardware to local or UTC.

[kh602]

Keep in mind that word "essentially". The boards are close, but the Extreme does not have the Marvel chipset for 6Gb/s on 2 of the SATA ports and the sound codec is ALC889A instead of the ALC889(without the A) that the UD7 has. You could probably use the GA-X58-UD7 install files with the GA-EX58-EXTREME and most things will work, but you will need to find a kext file for the ALC889A.

 

 

 

It should work, but keep in mind that Win7 doesn't like to share disk space with OS X - it's possible to do it, but you need to start with a clean disk and go through all sorts of hassle to make it work. I would get a separate HDD for the SL install. Another thing to keep in mind is that every time you boot Win7 after having booted OS X, you will probably need to reset the tray clock - mine gains exactly 5 hours every time I boot Win7 after having OS X up and running. I see from your spec you have a firewire audio. That's good because you won't need the ALC889A kext for sound your board needs.

 

 

thanks for the heads up and quick reply. i am all new to this and its all very interesting. do you know where i can find the GA-X58-UD7 files? and which is the best boot loader to boot my SL 10.6.3 disc? i think i might install SL on my seagate external drive then if windows is going to mess around. will SL still run fast on my 1TB seagate usb external hard drive? i have been looking at loads of pages and seen quite a few that dual boot win 7 and SL on partitions and it looks alright.

[Meega]

Installed it with this guide and chose the exact correct motherboard (GA-EP45-UD3LR).

Works like a charm to install, it finds my cpu (e6500) witch another guide did not.

 

But I cannot get the sound working. It cannot find any sound to play with in the output pane. And if i see about this mac it seems like there is no driver active.

 

I'm currenty trying to update to 10.6.3 to see if that helps, but I doubt it, didn't work last time.

 

I've done all the bios settings that this guide says, even checked that sound is enabled in BIOS.

 

Any clues how? or workaround?

[mazmorbid]

I am having the same trouble with my X58A-UD7, can't get any audio all this mac stuff is over my head ...

[gdscei]

can you help me dude,

 

i am wondering... i have a gigabyte p55m-ud2 motherboard, and you say it has support for it... though in the guide it says that p55 chipsets are not working?! (@ ISO burn info)

So what's it... does or doesn't?

 

I am having the same trouble with my X58A-UD7, can't get any audio all this mac stuff is over my head ...

check in preferences of snow leopard: set audio to internal speaker. (from the FAQ on the website of kakewalk (http://www.puru.se)

[mazmorbid]

check in preferences of snow leopard: set audio to internal speaker. (from the FAQ on the website of kakewalk (http://www.puru.se)

 

There is nothing to set.

[Dilemma Prison]

Does the x58a-ud3r install option cover both rev 1 and rev 2 of the main board?

 

Does the kakewalk installer require a 10.6.0 install disk or will it work with the newer 10.6.3 install disks that are currently shipping?

 

Is the kakewalk boot loader some custom kit or is it simply chameleon of a particular vesion.

[JBLanteigne]

I'm trying the usb method.

 

I got my dvd image on the thumb drive but when I try to install kakewalk on it.. the install can't finish.

 

I have a EP45-DS3R so I'm giving it a try with the EP45-DS3L seem they are about the same.. but I can't even get it installed.

 

Help plz.

 

I tried installing the EP45-UD3R (over my failed install of the DS3L) and it worked.. not sure if the install will work tho since I think my mobo is closer to ther DS3L

 

Apparently the UD3R should work with the DS3R... when I tried to install the bootloaded worked, I saw the gray screen with white apple logo (edit2: it's actually gray apple on white bg) then when it wanted to load I got a black screen with white squares/lines on it.

 

My guess is that I'd need support for my ATI 3870, not sure how to get this.

 

Also, this might be because I installed kakewalk UD3R OVER a failed install of DS3L... so.. what do you thinK?

 

Thanks

[Going Bald]

FYI on the clock issue, OSX sets hardware time to UTC and lets the OS determine what timezone you are in. Pretty much the same thing Linux does except that when you install Linux it usually gives you the option to set hardware to local or UTC.

 

It's something in Win7. I have shut down totally, restarted, delete key, checked bios clock to make sure it is correct, selected Win7 at the boot. Win 7 comes up - clock in tray is my time + 5 hours. Reset clock manually. Reboot to Win 7 - clock is correct. Shut down totally. Start back up and boot to Win 7 - clock is correct. Shut down, turn off power at the surge supressor to EVERYTHING (this is to check battery on mobo). Wait 5 minutes. Turn on power, boot into windows - clock is correct. Reboot, and this time let it boot into SL - clock is correct. Reboot again, delete key and check bios clock - clock is correct. Select to boot to Win 7 - tray clock is +5 hours again. This time, use the internet synch to set clock. Reboot into Win 7. Clock is correct. Reboot to SL - clock is correct. Reboot to Win 7 - clock is again + 5 hours. Wierd, isn't it?

 

There is nothing to set.

 

1st thing - back up your Extra folder somewhere.

 

Have you updated to 10.6.3 yet? If not, do so. SL won't recognize the i7 9xxx correctly as nehalem processors until you update to 10.6.2 at least. Mrjanek is working on a new fix for the install file for V2.2. In the meantime, here is a copy of the files I have in extra and the AppleHDA.kext file I have in S/L/E along with Kext utility. You can download the zip files and extract the files - the contents of extra.zip replace the contents of your Extra folder. The kext utility can be dropped on your desktop or placed in your utility folder. AFTER you have replaced the Extra files, drop the AppleHDA.kext onto the KU icon and let KU install it it in S/L/E in place of the 10.6.3 update kext and repair permissions. Reboot. Check your profiler for sound, it should look something like this:

 

 

Then open System Preferences, open sound, select internal speakers and make sure your speakers are plugged into the lime green port.

sound.zip

extra.zip

[VinP14]

It may have been mentioned in this thread, but I forsee a problem with using Kakewalk. I have the X58 chipset and want to install snow leopard. How do I go about doing this if the Kakewalklegacy.iso is known to not work with my chipset. What other options are there?

 

I'm wanting to prepare this disc from Windows, I don't have Mac, I want to use my PC as a Mac, that's the whole point.

 

I would be happy to learn that I am missing something fundamental and obvious because then it would be easy to remedy!

 

The instructions on the kakewalk website are minimal. I'd be happy for a link to a post explaining this but I feel I'm a little to far outside the loop here and flailing around a little.

 

brief help appreciated.

 

I had the same thing, Windows only showed the Legacy ISO, Try [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] as linked in the topic or Empire EFI to Boot into OSx, than you can generate the X58 ISO you need. in OSx you will see these listed as .dmg or .pkg rather than ISO and ZIP/RAR

[Going Bald]

thanks for the heads up and quick reply. i am all new to this and its all very interesting. do you know where i can find the GA-X58-UD7 files? and which is the best boot loader to boot my SL 10.6.3 disc? i think i might install SL on my seagate external drive then if windows is going to mess around. will SL still run fast on my 1TB seagate usb external hard drive? i have been looking at loads of pages and seen quite a few that dual boot win 7 and SL on partitions and it looks alright.

 

You can either download V2.2 from page 1 of this forum along with the V2.2 boot loader and install with that, following the directions included in the downloaded file to install the Retail image to your HDD, then install the bootloader package to your HDD, then update to 10.6.2 using the download file found here: http://support.apple.com/downloads/#Mac%20...e%20%28Combo%29. After updating, go to S/L/E and copy the AppleHDA.kext file somewhere else (You will want to put it back after you have updated to 10.6.3). Update to 10.6.3. Then put the 10.6.2 AppleHDA.kext file back in S/L/E (or, alternatively, as has been pointed out to me, you can copy the 10.6.2 AppleHDA.kext file to E/E to stay vanilla and not have to put it back in S/L/E everytime you update), repair permissions with Disk Utility, open preferences/sound and select internal speaker. Voila! Sound.

 

or, you can download the package that Magnifico10 has a link to on page 135 of this forum post #2695, download the files there and install with them. either way should work.

[GrootWitBaas]

Installed it with this guide and chose the exact correct motherboard (GA-EP45-UD3LR).

Works like a charm to install, it finds my cpu (e6500) witch another guide did not.

 

But I cannot get the sound working. It cannot find any sound to play with in the output pane. And if i see about this mac it seems like there is no driver active.

 

I'm currenty trying to update to 10.6.3 to see if that helps, but I doubt it, didn't work last time.

 

I've done all the bios settings that this guide says, even checked that sound is enabled in BIOS.

 

Any clues how? or workaround?

Always worked for me, same board, even after update to 10.6.3 just had to get the appleHDA kext from 10.6.2 and replace it in S/L/E and add the LegacyHDA in E/E

Remember to set under settings-sound-output to internal (default gives output to front panel)

[Phorte]

Does the x58a-ud3r install option cover both rev 1 and rev 2 of the main board?

read here: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=220199

[mazmorbid]

It's something in Win7. I have shut down totally, restarted, delete key, checked bios clock to make sure it is correct, selected Win7 at the boot. Win 7 comes up - clock in tray is my time + 5 hours. Reset clock manually. Reboot to Win 7 - clock is correct. Shut down totally. Start back up and boot to Win 7 - clock is correct. Shut down, turn off power at the surge supressor to EVERYTHING (this is to check battery on mobo). Wait 5 minutes. Turn on power, boot into windows - clock is correct. Reboot, and this time let it boot into SL - clock is correct. Reboot again, delete key and check bios clock - clock is correct. Select to boot to Win 7 - tray clock is +5 hours again. This time, use the internet synch to set clock. Reboot into Win 7. Clock is correct. Reboot to SL - clock is correct. Reboot to Win 7 - clock is again + 5 hours. Wierd, isn't it?

 

 

 

1st thing - back up your Extra folder somewhere.

 

Have you updated to 10.6.3 yet? If not, do so. SL won't recognize the i7 9xxx correctly as nehalem processors until you update to 10.6.2 at least. Mrjanek is working on a new fix for the install file for V2.2. In the meantime, here is a copy of the files I have in extra and the AppleHDA.kext file I have in S/L/E along with Kext utility. You can download the zip files and extract the files - the contents of extra.zip replace the contents of your Extra folder. The kext utility can be dropped on your desktop or placed in your utility folder. AFTER you have replaced the Extra files, drop the AppleHDA.kext onto the KU icon and let KU install it it in S/L/E in place of the 10.6.3 update kext and repair permissions. Reboot. Check your profiler for sound, it should look something like this:

 

 

Then open System Preferences, open sound, select internal speakers and make sure your speakers are plugged into the lime green port.

 

Thanks heaps, worked a treat, I now have sound .. now if I could only get my ATI 5870 to work I would be 100% done, but I read somewhere Apple is no longer supporting ATI GPU's, only NVidia from now on, so it looks as if I am out of luck

[Jeff.H]

It's something in Win7. I have shut down totally, restarted, delete key, checked bios clock to make sure it is correct, selected Win7 at the boot. Win 7 comes up - clock in tray is my time + 5 hours. Reset clock manually. Reboot to Win 7 - clock is correct. Shut down totally. Start back up and boot to Win 7 - clock is correct. Shut down, turn off power at the surge supressor to EVERYTHING (this is to check battery on mobo). Wait 5 minutes. Turn on power, boot into windows - clock is correct. Reboot, and this time let it boot into SL - clock is correct. Reboot again, delete key and check bios clock - clock is correct. Select to boot to Win 7 - tray clock is +5 hours again. This time, use the internet synch to set clock. Reboot into Win 7. Clock is correct. Reboot to SL - clock is correct. Reboot to Win 7 - clock is again + 5 hours. Wierd, isn't it?

 

Win 7 and Server 2003 both do the same thing to my ESX server that I run it on and it screwed with all my Linux installs making me go back and reinstall all the Linux VMs with the hardware clock set to UTC, but I can assure you that OSX does it just the same. On my Hackintosh I have nothing BUT OSX installed and I can set the BIOS clock to local time as many times as I want, but just as soon as I boot into OSX it sets the BIOS clock back to UTC.

 

I have another box that runs Win 7 for my Sly Soft apps (since they are so good at what they do) and while it does sync the hardware clock in the BIOS, it does it to the local time I have set in Windows.

 

FYI, ESX is Linux based and OSX is Unix based and there are a lot of underlying similarities between the two core technologies, so my hunch is that its not so much Windows as it is the Linux/Unix side of things that is screwing with your BIOS clock.

[gdscei]

i am wondering... i have a gigabyte p55m-ud2 motherboard, and you say it has support for it... though in the guide it says that p55 chipsets are not working?! (@ ISO burn info)

So what's it... does or doesnt?

 

 

anyone?

[VinP14]

Kakewalk Installer gives me no LAN on my X58A-UD3R which is not right. Using [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url] to Install and Kakewalk Boot I get LAN

 

So my LAN Error is in the Installer and not the bootloader

 

Now besides [url="http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/279450-why-insanelymac-does-not-support-tonymacx86/"]#####[/url], what other Installer should I try? or How could I get Kakewalk to Install my board how it should be

 

Or could somebody Confirm that Kakewalk is meant to install the X58A-UD3R without LAN?

 

 

Quicktime does not work for me in any 10.6.3 update, not so much of a Kakewalk Issue

[foxnews]

I just want to add my success with using Kakewalk 2.2 for the install on my Gigabyte P35-DS3R. I used the EP45-UD3R since it matched my motherboard pretty closely. Sound worked perfect out of the box, found my 8800GT and seems to be 100%. Specs are below

 

Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R

Core2Duo 1.6 Ghz

2Gb (4x512) DDr2-800

250Gb WD Sata HD

Sata DVD-RW

EVGA 8800GT PCI-express

 

Can you explain what you did? step by step. I have the same MB P35-DS3R. I can boot into screen with drive selections. after I put in Mac OS disk in and selected it, it was busy for a moment and then just went blank. I had to hit restart button. I tried both KakewalkLegacy.iso and iso made from Mac.

 

I can boot into the installer using bootcd from a different thread and was able to install SL but had problem with booting into Mac after installation. I have three partitions: data, Window 7, and Mac format journal.