nullspot Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 When I DID try to use the USB method when I just reinstalled now, it failed hard... I got KPs whenever I tried to boot up the USB, even though I set it up exactly the way it was supposed to be. I've seen a few others mention KP's when the install began, and I actually had the same problem the first time I tried it. Can't remember what I did to fix it, though - and I've never had a problem since (re-installing with the same drive I created multiple times). I also just like having a "boot disk" handy (like the install DVD on a real mac) for dealing with repairs to my osx86 snowleo installation... Eliade? did you ever have any KP with usb install method? remember what fixed it? When it works, it's smooth and simple, with hardly anything you can screw up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinist Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 yeah, my ud3r never ever saw windows natively , only mac os, so to play with overclock I did everything in mac, mprime is all done from the terminal but the result is very clear... about RC2 did you modify the boot file (the pci efi 10.1 from netkas ), or you used the one given by RC2 ? cause I've heard it was unstable with SL Eliade: My UD3P also started out as "Leopard Only" and overclocking forced me back to Windows for the better temp monitoring and sampling tools. I use "SystemLoad" in Leopard; a system is either stable or not. In bios I run 3.2 (8x400) with no tweaks needed beyond simply raising the fsb. Windows7 (64) reports this accurately as do all the standard Windows tools. Leopard reports whatever is written in the smbios, as does the netkas tool cpu-x. Intel's "MacCPUID" tool seems accurate. It has a feature which allows a real time report. Do you use it? Here's the interesting bit. Leopard overclocks my overclock. When I'm set in bios to use a multiplier of 8 with a fsb of 400, Leopard, and now Snow in 64bit, changes my multiplier to 9, running my Q6600 at 3.6. 3.6 (9x400) is not stable with the same bios settings in any iteration of Windows I have tried. I can do 3.2, 8x400 or 9x355) with just a fsb bump, 9x400 requires more voltage. The best Windows can muster is where I have it set, 3.2 (8x400). But I run at 3.6 in 64 bit Snow. Thanks, Apple. My question for you, sir, is how do you achieve 3.0 on your Q, with an 8 or a 9? Could I prevail upon you to see if my results carry across to your board too? I wager if you set your Q to 3.2 (8x400) you will find you are running at 3.6 in Snow too. Barring that, if you use a multiplier of 8 to get to 3.0 in bios you might find you are running at 3.3 in Leopard or Snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelf Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I've seen a few others mention KP's when the install began, and I actually had the same problem the first time I tried it. Can't remember what I did to fix it, though - and I've never had a problem since (re-installing with the same drive I created multiple times). I also just like having a "boot disk" handy (like the install DVD on a real mac) for dealing with repairs to my osx86 snowleo installation... Eliade? did you ever have any KP with usb install method? remember what fixed it? When it works, it's smooth and simple, with hardly anything you can screw up.... now that I have everything cleared out I just reinstalled it at the moment, using my usb drive again never had a KP, so I don't know why people are getting them during install with that method, must be something wrong in their extra folder I'll post mine if that helps Extra.zip the UUID should be fine if left as so both match (smbios and uuid kext) the EFI string must be changed to your card unless you have a 8800GTS 320MB and the dsdt must be changed, my dsdt will probably work only on Q6600 with UD3R (rev 1.1) system may work on all UD3R (rev 1.1) Core2Quad but I can't say this is not my final extra folder, but it is the one I have on my usb "DVD install" drive -x32 is already included in the com.apple.boot so you don't have to add any flag during boot (-v if you are expecting KP) Eliade: My UD3P also started out as "Leopard Only" and overclocking forced me back to Windows for the better temp monitoring and sampling tools. I use "SystemLoad" in Leopard; a system is either stable or not. In bios I run 3.2 (8x400) with no tweaks needed beyond simply raising the fsb. Windows7 (64) reports this accurately as do all the standard Windows tools. Leopard reports whatever is written in the smbios, as does the netkas tool cpu-x. Intel's "MacCPUID" tool seems accurate. It has a feature which allows a real time report. Do you use it? Here's the interesting bit. Leopard overclocks my overclock. When I'm set in bios to use a multiplier of 8 with a fsb of 400, Leopard, and now Snow in 64bit, changes my multiplier to 9, running my Q6600 at 3.6. 3.6 (9x400) is not stable with the same bios settings in any iteration of Windows I have tried. I can do 3.2, 8x400 or 9x355) with just a fsb bump, 9x400 requires more voltage. The best Windows can muster is where I have it set, 3.2 (8x400). But I run at 3.6 in 64 bit Snow. Thanks, Apple. My question for you, sir, is how do you achieve 3.0 on your Q, with an 8 or a 9? Could I prevail upon you to see if my results carry across to your board too? I wager if you set your Q to 3.2 (8x400) you will find you are running at 3.6 in Snow too. Barring that, if you use a multiplier of 8 to get to 3.0 in bios you might find you are running at 3.3 in Leopard or Snow? I'm now back to 3GHz 9x333 but yesterday I took it up to 3.2 for the fun of benchmark 8x400 leo is bad at showing the right speed, In leo I was using msrtool to check my cpu speed, it is very accurate for cpu speed (well at least it made perfect sense, I could even watch speed step happening in real time ) and no, leo would not over-overclock my cpu I know my cpu won't boot with a vcore 1.325 at 3.6Ghz, which would happen if leo took the multi back up to 9 when I was at 8x400 in the bios at which I can at least boot and run at 1.325 (but don't remember if it was fully stable at that vcore) therefore snow leo doesn't over-overclock the cpu either an older version of cpuz had the same problem, it couldn't read the fact that i had lowered the multi (this was when I was using an E6600) so it would display crazy speed, soon after cpuz fixed the issue in a new version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpanzee Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 "How to Build a Hackintosh with Snow Leopard, Start to Finish" http://lifehacker.com/5351485/how-to-build...start-to-finish Antec Sonata III 500 Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power SupplyGIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard Intel Core 2 Quad 3.0GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Patriot Extreme Performance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory x 2 (for a total of 8GB) Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EADS 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Pioneer CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model 10/ 100/ 1000/ 2000Mbps PCI Copper Gigabit Network Adapter (The motherboard has onboard Ethernet, naturally, but this particular board has some problems with onboard in the Hackintosh world. Luckily, Ethernet cards are extremely cheap.) They are using the GA-EP45UD3P board. Can someone critique this solution? One commenter had a thumbs-down for the video card, who preferred an ATI 4870 card. How does the Intel Core 2 Quad compare with an i7 Quad? I'm thinking of building a system around the Gigabyte x58 board & i7 Quad cpu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelf Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 "How to Build a Hackintosh with Snow Leopard, Start to Finish" http://lifehacker.com/5351485/how-to-build...start-to-finish They are using the GA-EP45UD3P board. Can someone critique this solution? One commenter had a thumbs-down for the video card, who preferred an ATI 4870 card. How does the Intel Core 2 Quad compare with an i7 Quad? I'm thinking of building a system around the Gigabyte x58 board & i7 Quad cpu. GA-EP45-UD3P is good, I like my ud3r since that;s what I have and works perfectly well in snow leopard supposedly 9xxx nvidia is just an upgraded 8xxx, runs cooler for similar speed, consume less so it's not bad, if you want faster then nvidia 260 is the answer on mac os hackintosh nvidia is I think a much better option, have you heard of OpenCL in snow leo, well only a very few ati handle it, most nvidia do (check netkas website) i7 is just better on a CPU standpoint, but I don't think a GA-EP45-UD3P handles it... neither does the GA-EP45-UD3R... ========================= My system is now 100% vanilla, only hack is done to the EFI partition (chameleon 2 rc2), the system is absolutely clean and my jmicron works now, I get IDE access happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devros Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I've got my system almost perfect now. I have a Areca RAID card in my 16x PCI-E slot, so I need a cheap graphics card that will be supported that can go into a PCI or a 1x PCI-E slot. Right now I have a GeForce PCI 5200 FX w/128 MB of memory, and I've pretty much given up on getting that to work right. It will do the basics, but screen refreshes are painful. This is a server, so I don't need anything to beefy. I'm just looking for the bare minimum that can be supported by an EFI string. All suggestions are welcome. thanks, dev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelf Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I've got my system almost perfect now. I have a Areca RAID card in my 16x PCI-E slot, so I need a cheap graphics card that will be supported that can go into a PCI or a 1x PCI-E slot. Right now I have a GeForce PCI 5200 FX w/128 MB of memory, and I've pretty much given up on getting that to work right. It will do the basics, but screen refreshes are painful. This is a server, so I don't need anything to beefy. I'm just looking for the bare minimum that can be supported by an EFI string. All suggestions are welcome. thanks, dev well, you should check the places where you can get efi strings for video card and choose from the list EFI studio has a short list of video car, google uinstaller , it has a much longer list of efi string for video cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Mander Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Hey everybody! Thanks a lot for this very detailed tutorial. I'm owning a copy of a family license Snow Leopard retail. I followed these steps on the tutorial and installed SL on a blank GUID drive but can't boot. While booting there is a kernel panic: http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6373/dsc00722dv.jpg My system: Leopard 10.5.6 w/ chmeleon bootloader 2, Gigabyte EP45-DS3R, 6GB OZC 1066 RAM, Gainward 8800GTS G92 512. Any other iDeneb, iAtkos distribution or 10.5.6 Retail with boot 132 works flawlessy. I would apreciate if someone owning this system configuration could let me give a word of advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siriuxs Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 This guide is functionally with GA-EP45-DQ6 ? The guide yes, the files no, you have to adapt them Why? The mainboards have the same chip, the same audio, the same ethernet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d00m42 Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 GA-EP45-UD3P is good, I like my ud3r since that;s what I have and works perfectly well in snow leopard supposedly 9xxx nvidia is just an upgraded 8xxx, runs cooler for similar speed, consume less so it's not bad, if you want faster then nvidia 260 is the answer on mac os hackintosh nvidia is I think a much better option, have you heard of OpenCL in snow leo, well only a very few ati handle it, most nvidia do (check netkas website) i7 is just better on a CPU standpoint, but I don't think a GA-EP45-UD3P handles it... neither does the GA-EP45-UD3R... ========================= My system is now 100% vanilla, only hack is done to the EFI partition (chameleon 2 rc2), the system is absolutely clean and my jmicron works now, I get IDE access happy Happy to hear you got JMicron working. I really didn't know why it wouldn't work for you from the EFI partition... Anyways I have school today, and then a 3 day weekend (finally). When I get home today I'll spend like an hr or so reinstalling a few things I'm missing and get back to writing the new guide version. The computer has been running in x64 so far *crosses fingers* and slept all night, waking up fine using my mouse/keyboard this morning. My iTunes Library seems to be fine, as do the Library preference files I saved so my Adium/Firefox/Skype etc all have the correct preferences. I am almost done resetting stuff in System Preferences, and I just installed my Logitech G15 again. After almost losing around 120GB of data due to an NTFS corruption, I'm not installing NTFS-3G again. Instead, after spending 15hrs+ recovering the data on my sister's windows computer with special utilities, I'm going to copy it all to my newly HFS+ formatted internal storage drive (that used to be NTFS) and use my 500GB external as Time Machine for both drives. I hope x64 is as rock solid as x86 was before, because with all my music/videos etc on an HFS+ drive I can't really access them easily if I wanted to use Windows. As long as SL is stable, I won't even be using Windows, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diab303 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 ... Thanks a lot for this very detailed tutorial. I'm owning a copy of a family license Snow Leopard retail. I followed these steps on the tutorial and installed SL on a blank GUID drive but can't boot. While booting there is a kernel panic: http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6373/dsc00722dv.jpg ... Have you created a dsdt.aml? Is it loading properly? If not, create one (using makedsdt/dsdtpatcher) and copy the resulting dsdt.aml to the new installation root. Also it seems to be related to ATA. Are you using PATA drives? That could be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svencux Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 hello d00m42, sorry to bother you again. I used your DSDT and kext to got my System up running on 64 bit. All works fine (lan, Wlan, sleep, video, all verry stable too no KP even paralles works with XP) but i do not get the sound to work I do have a Gigabyte EP45-DS3 but it uses the same sound chipset as yours. In the system profiler it shows hadware (same id as yours) but it's just not working. Which sound kext do you use. Should't it work using your DSDT and becaus we do have the same hardware ? Yesterday i did try an terratec USB sound dongle from a friend pluged it in and it worked but i would rather get the onbord sound working. Could you give me an hint of what to do ? thanks Hardware: Gigabyte EP45-DS3 Quadcore 9400 on 3.2Ghz OSC 4 GB Ram 900 Hz Geforce 9500GT silence IDE DVD burner IDE DVD SATA II drive 500 GB Snow Leo / Parrallels with XP/ EyeTV/ Toast9/Starmoney/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolded Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Thanks to this guide I have SL running beatufiull I have yet to encounter any KP. I reinstalled it again on a Brand new HDD and man oh man is it fast. Thanks again guys ps. Also what fan do you guys recommend for my Nvidia 9800GT, that is the only thing that is loud in my whole pc. My computer is completely silent except that stupid little fan and it bothers me a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFLNYC Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Lots of good stuff being posted today. Richtig, thanks for the link to that editor. It's just what I was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueMaC Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 no information for me? sad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penestijeras Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 ok ok, I am sorry. Thank you anyway for your great guide. I will post it my news, thanks to all Eliade, any updates on KPs in various apps using x64? I'm in x86 atm and it's smooth as usual but last night while using x64 I had random KPs caused by various different apps... For the 934,234,234th time, COMPILE YOUR OWN DSDT, ONLY USE MINE TO GUIDE YOU!!! We don't have IDENTICAL configurations, so you can't possibly use my DSDT and expect it to work 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatBlaster Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Thanks to this guide I have SL running beatufiull I have yet to encounter any KP.I reinstalled it again on a Brand new HDD and man oh man is it fast. Thanks again guys ps. Also what fan do you guys recommend for my Nvidia 9800GT, that is the only thing that is loud in my whole pc. My computer is completely silent except that stupid little fan and it bothers me a lot. No KP's eh? Is anyone who followed this guide having any issues running a backup with either Time Machine or CarbonCopyCloner? My machine is running almost perfect except I can't get a backup to finish without a KP halfway through the process. If anyone can provide insight I have another thread started for it here: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=183860 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstarjoe Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 First I would like to thank d00m, Eliade, machinist, and others for all of the great information. I have been following this thread from day one but I have not yet tried to install Snow Leopard. I first had to teach myself all about compiling DSDT, since I had not done that with my Leopard install. I want to make sure I have my DSDT working perfect before I set forth into the land of Snow Leopard. Now I have a working DSDT, audio works great with LegacyHDA (I tried removing it while using Machinist's layoutid but no luck, so I went back to the layoutid in d00m42's DSDT). For some reason I can only get Bonjour working with Realtek1000 installed in my S/L/E instead of E/E, but this doesn't really bother me much. I saw Eliade's Bonjour fix and I might try that once I've installed Snow Leopard. I have a question about Chameleon, though. I currently have a 1GB internal USB drive that plugs directly into my UD3R. I have Chameleon 2 RC2 installed here, and I have my BIOS set to boot from this USB drive so that I can then boot up my Leopard install(s) or any other hard drives. It is a pretty nice system and lets me keep all of my drives vanilla. My question is, will I be ok using Chameleon 2 RC2? I noticed that Netkas recommends Chameleon RC1 with his PCEFI10.1 but I never had any luck with RC1 on my system RC2 has worked like a champ and I'd like to stick with it. I noticed some of you are running RC2, any problems? Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil43 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Good work and thanks to d00m and the community that makes this all possible. Brought up my Gigabye GA-EP45-DS3R machine on SL using the details supplied here in. I was running the ASEM EFi-X BPU device and pulled it when I learned that SL would not be supported. My next task is to install SL on an Intel DG45ID motherboard. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spos86 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 d00m42, in the SL Pack folder you have the How to patch DSDT folder and inside a zip file with How to patch DSDT with LAN and HDEF functions including LegacyHDA which contains How to patch DSDT with LAN and HDEF functions including LegacyHDA.pdf. At the same time you have a How to patch DSDT with LAN and HDEF functions.pdf which donst have the section "Make it simple by copy and paste" after compiling the DSDT. Thats where I am confused. Am I supose to skip that section? is that for AppleHDA.kext in S/L/E or just for the LegacyHDA.kext in E/E? What about the codec dumps and verbs? are we suposed to use that? Thanks Im doing the DSDT from scratch AGAIN just in case the last one had a mistake, Ill post the results UPDATE Working GREAT OCed at 3.5 GHz 500*7 RAM 1333 its as stable as a rock!!! Although, right now, running at 3.2, didnt have the heart to have it full time at 3.5GHz, so I lowered everything to 400*8 DDR 1333Mhz and for heavy rendering Switch back to the 3.5 configuration (TEMPS ARE REAL COOL, @3.2 30c IDLE 55C FULL Throtle. and @ 3.5 also about 30C idle and 59C at full throtle. Tested in windows with prime95 and Intel Burn in 16hs. And renderin in SL with AE and FC) I have a bunch of Benchamarks with the diff ocing configs and LEO VS Snow LEO under same setings. A few facts from my expereience. A. DSDT works awesome. I didnt want to do it but is GREAT and the guide is clear enough to do it even if u're a noob like me. But most likely like d00m42 said in the guide you will have to do it a few time to get it right. B. Kext Utility DOES NOT always work. Some times it does jack. As its also recomended on the thread REBUILD YOUR KEXT CACHE IN SINGLE USER MODE. And I add, TOUCH the extension folders in E/E and S/L/E. Had KPs until i touched the extension folders in single user mode. LAST and I know its not part of this thread but i did my googling (I admit I have to do more) But I treid this concept (The guide but with more kexts) on my HP dv9933CL and had no success. The problem is the DSDT I cant complile it in the laptop. Only force compile but that scares me. I KNOW ITS NOT THE RIGHT THREAD. But if anyone has some knowledge, experience, links, etc to share I apriciate it!!!! I am attaching my Benchmark results just in case anybody wants to look at them. I used Xbench geekbench x32 and x64 and GLVIEW I also have some AJA system benchmarks for my hdds but doubt any one would be interested. Bench.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelf Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Hey everybody! Thanks a lot for this very detailed tutorial. I'm owning a copy of a family license Snow Leopard retail. I followed these steps on the tutorial and installed SL on a blank GUID drive but can't boot. While booting there is a kernel panic: http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6373/dsc00722dv.jpg My system: Leopard 10.5.6 w/ chmeleon bootloader 2, Gigabyte EP45-DS3R, 6GB OZC 1066 RAM, Gainward 8800GTS G92 512. Any other iDeneb, iAtkos distribution or 10.5.6 Retail with boot 132 works flawlessy. I would apreciate if someone owning this system configuration could let me give a word of advice. did you replace the boot file chameleon 2 rc1 and chameleon 2 rc2 are not directly compatible with snow leopard you need to replace the boot file... ...has been running in x64 so far *crosses fingers* and slept all night, waking up fine using my mouse/keyboard this morning....however. d00m42 you never said anything about being able to wake up from keyboard/mouse can you give a quick clue where you've got that fix from ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy1971 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Hello folks! Thank you for this great guide!! I have follow your guide step by step and I have fully working my Snow kitty (32 & 64bit), BUT on Disk Utilities It seems that I can't repair permissions, nor through terminal... I miss something... also I can't repair from the Leopard installation.... Please help! Thanks again! Roy PS: It worked with the "Key Utility" tool when I've drop the Extra/Extension folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spos86 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Hello folks! Thank you for this great guide!! I have follow your guide step by step and I have fully working my Snow kitty (32 & 64bit), BUT on Disk Utilities It seems that I can't repair permissions, nor through terminal... I miss something... also I can't repair from the Leopard installation.... Please help! Thanks again! Roy PS: It worked with the "Key Utility" tool when I've drop the Extra/Extension folder. Did you try single user? (-s on boot) also try sudo touch S/L/E and E/E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFLNYC Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Hello folks! Thank you for this great guide!! I have follow your guide step by step and I have fully working my Snow kitty (32 & 64bit), BUT on Disk Utilities It seems that I can't repair permissions, nor through terminal... I miss something... also I can't repair from the Leopard installation.... Please help! Thanks again! Roy PS: It worked with the "Key Utility" tool when I've drop the Extra/Extension folder. If you installed from within Leo (as opposed to a usb stick install) you need to reinstall the BSD package from within SL. Then the problem will go away. If you use the usb stick install method, you won't have this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFLNYC Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Gotta say I'm starting hate SL. Why can't Apple make this easier for us?! On an EP45-UD3R install, I'm never sure if I'm going to get my sound outputs. And after initially meeting with some success on my EX58 install, now that I'm reinstalling to try to get things right, I get nothing but KP's either during Setup Assistant (if I install from within Leo) or during installation (if I install from a usb stick). Doesn't matter what I try: usb or in Leo, different kexts, different dsdt files, I keep getting a cpu caller panic (usually cpu), type 14 page fault. Sometimes the process name is launchd, sometimes mdworker, sometimes Setup Assistant, but the essential panic is the same. I've even tried my clocking my CPU back to stock. Here's a typical result: I'm starting to think I've got a hardware problem, but there's no evidence of any problem when I run Leo on the same rig. Leo is rock solid. I NEVER get a KP. I tried a new HDD with the same result. Could is be a memory error? Anybody got any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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