zhell Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 DVD Burner May Be Cause of Insomnia It has been reported by Master Chief that (i) his DVD drive starts to make funny noises when the machine should be going to sleep and (ii) that this madness can be stopped by simply putting DVD into he drive. I found unplugging the drive also did the trick, but that's kind of inconvenient. Since I wanted to get rid of my crappy TSST (Samsung Toshiba Storage Technology) SH-223 drive anyway, I thought what the heck, if DSDT cannot fix it, let hardware to it. So I got myself a nice Optiarc AD-7243 dvd drive and replaced the TSST one. 'Lo and behold, sleep on idle works now However, I cannot spot any difference in System Profiler or IORegistryExplorer between the drives. This leads me to believe it's simply a bug in the drive. Before you run out and get a new DVD drive, please note that with 10a380, sleep on idle also works properly with the TSST drive. Please report what drive you have and whether or not sleep works. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdawg Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 DVD Burner May Be Cause of Insomnia It has been reported by Master Chief that (i) his DVD drive starts to make funny noises when the machine should be going to sleep and (ii) that this madness can be stopped by simply putting DVD into he drive. I found unplugging the drive also did the trick, but that's kind of inconvenient. Since I wanted to get rid of my crappy TSST (Samsung Toshiba Storage Technology) SH-223 drive anyway, I thought what the heck, if DSDT cannot fix it, let hardware to it. So I got myself a nice Optiarc AD-7243 dvd drive and replaced the TSST one. 'Lo and behold, sleep on idle works now However, I cannot spot any difference in System Profiler or IORegistryExplorer between the drives. This leads me to believe it's simply a bug in the drive. Before you run out and get a new DVD drive, please note that with 10a380, sleep on idle also works properly with the TSST drive. Please report what drive you have and whether or not sleep works. I have this drive too! I've been pulling my hair out thinking it was my OS X install. I think I may just get a couple new optical drives and fix it that way. However I have upgraded the firmware to SB03 to see if perhaps that'll fix it. I'll post my results. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1204331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerkex'd Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 You can also "fix" this by disabling sleep for hard drives in the energy saver prefs. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1229515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnzoFX Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 What if I don't even have a DVD Drive? I only have 2 Sata HDD's, and I can't get auto sleep to work =/ Sleep works if I induce it myself, and it wakes fine too, actually no. For some reason it kept launching the Bluetooth Setup Assistant after waking lol. EDIT: I am really surprised that I also have the dvd drive - sleep on idle bug. I didn't think this was possible, seeing as I use a USB/external drive to install (Which does happen to be a Samsung drive!) and I leave it off after the OS is installed. But nevertheless, I tried inserting a DVD (an actual dvd, DVD app pops up telling me it can't find suitable dvd drive), and YES, it did sleep on idle! I'm not sure what I can do to correct this. I mean, the drive is not even connected and it still won't sleep on idle! - I prefer not to have a DVD drive connected to the system through internal SATA, I don't want to dedicate space/power to something I only use for OS installs. EDIT2: Disabling sleep for hard drives in Energy Saver pref pane works! Thanks Beerkex'd! Yet Another Edit: After a reinstall, this time installing from existing install, so no dvd drive was ever used, and I have yet to plug one in for the OS to recognize, Sleep on idle not working. I wonder if connecting the usb one to sort of get it going would work... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1238915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart86 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 @zhell I have the SH-223 drive you have (SATA). 10.6 didn't fix this, at least not with my DSDT. The old solution of leaving a disk in the drive works though. We also noticed that changing to a Pioneer drive fixed the issue. Glad you are confirming that the Sony Optiarchs work also. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1253303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerkex'd Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 It would be nice to have a list of models of drives that Apple use. Anybody seen such a list? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1253424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbox Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Hi all So nice to find at least an answer to this blocking point! I have a Samsun SH203 DVD drive and can't reach sleep on idle neither with OSX 10.5.85, nor with 10.6.1. I already noticed, though, that my 10.5.8 install unexpectedly reached sleep on idle after creating a disk image. I just went away, living the image creation going on, and the PC was 'sleeping' when I came back but I couldn't reproduce it anymore. I will retry this: leaving intentionally a disk in my DVD drive and double check. I will also try 'disabling sleep for hard drives in Energy Saver pref pane' and tell you what the result is. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1274857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdawg Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Hi all So nice to find at least an answer to this blocking point! I have a Samsun SH203 DVD drive and can't reach sleep on idle neither with OSX 10.5.85, nor with 10.6.1. I already noticed, though, that my 10.5.8 install unexpectedly reached sleep on idle after creating a disk image. I just went away, living the image creation going on, and the PC was 'sleeping' when I came back but I couldn't reproduce it anymore. I will retry this: leaving intentionally a disk in my DVD drive and double check. I will also try 'disabling sleep for hard drives in Energy Saver pref pane' and tell you what the result is. Also try unplugging the power from the DVD burner to see if it'll sleep on it own. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1274903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodbox Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 Also try unplugging the power from the DVD burner to see if it'll sleep on it own. Too Bad! I couldn't get the sleep on idle to work even when I unplugged my DVD drive, neither on 10.5.7, nor on 10.6.1. Sleep for hardrive disabled didn't change anything neither Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1277694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinush Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 DVD Burner May Be Cause of Insomnia It has been reported by Master Chief that (i) his DVD drive starts to make funny noises when the machine should be going to sleep and (ii) that this madness can be stopped by simply putting DVD into he drive. I found unplugging the drive also did the trick, but that's kind of inconvenient. Since I wanted to get rid of my crappy TSST (Samsung Toshiba Storage Technology) SH-223 drive anyway, I thought what the heck, if DSDT cannot fix it, let hardware to it. So I got myself a nice Optiarc AD-7243 dvd drive and replaced the TSST one. 'Lo and behold, sleep on idle works now However, I cannot spot any difference in System Profiler or IORegistryExplorer between the drives. This leads me to believe it's simply a bug in the drive. Before you run out and get a new DVD drive, please note that with 10a380, sleep on idle also works properly with the TSST drive. Please report what drive you have and whether or not sleep works. Hi there Zhell the same no auto sleep problem with proper dsdt autosleep works when disconnected or with dvd in the drive Dvd type is TSST SH-S183A already orded the Optiarc AD-7243 drive report back later Thnx T. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1285367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdawg Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Hi there Zhell the same no auto sleep problem with proper dsdt autosleep works when disconnected or with dvd in the drive Dvd type is TSST SH-S183A already orded the Optiarc AD-7243 drive report back later Thnx T. That will, almost assuredly, fix your sleep problem. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1285372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinush Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 That will, almost assuredly, fix your sleep problem. thnx Kdawg, got the dvd burner in today and i can confirm auto sleep is working but one question does your drive also makes a lot of noise when the tray opens without a disc? T. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1286533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnapalm Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Hi. My DVD burner is an LG HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH20NS10. Auto sleep doesn't work and disabling sleep for hard drive doesn't fix it. With this option enabled looks like the DVD drive is accessed every minute or so (makes noise and LED blinks), but disabling it doesn't fix auto sleep. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1290972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart86 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 thnx Kdawg, got the dvd burner in today and i can confirm auto sleep is working but one question does your drive also makes a lot of noise when the tray opens without a disc? T. Yes, mine is crazy loud. Glad you posted. Must be normal Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1291005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerkex'd Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 the same no auto sleep problem with proper dsdt "proper dsdt"? Is there an explicit DSDT fix for this? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1291577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdawg Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 thnx Kdawg, got the dvd burner in today and i can confirm auto sleep is working but one question does your drive also makes a lot of noise when the tray opens without a disc? T. Yeah, unfortunately it is noisier. I'll take the lesser of two evils though. "proper dsdt"? Is there an explicit DSDT fix for this? I don't think so. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1292413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnapalm Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Hi. The guys who have Optiarc AD-7243, what do you see in System Profiler for your drive? Is there an "Async Notification" information? Thank you. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1292924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinush Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Yeah, unfortunately it is noisier. I'll take the lesser of two evils though. Ok, nice to know it's normal...!! thnx T. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1296020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee majors Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Oh, WOW. I've been tearing my hair out over this one. Reinstalled several times, waiting ages between each step and couldn't figure out just when the disc noise started happening!! I'm so glad I know what it is now! i have a LiteOn DVD writer. I know, I never heard of them either, dunno how I ended up with it. One minute I was at the counter next minute I was walking out with the box tucked under my arm. I suspect hypnosis. Anyway other than putting a disc in the drive or disconnecting, anyone got a fix for this yet? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1296952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS8 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Is there a DSDT fix for this? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1334682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common Sense Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Maybe its the "Power off" not being supported that causes this? A real macbook with nvidia chipset has the following (I found it on the internet): MAT{censored}ADVD-R UJ-868: Model: MAT{censored}ADVD-R UJ-868 Revision: KA14 Native Command Queuing: No Detachable Drive: No Power Off: Yes Async Notification: No On my hackintosh with a LG drive I have the following: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS40: Model: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS40 Revision: NL01 Native Command Queuing: No Detachable Drive: No Power Off: No Async Notification: No Bay Name: Bay 3 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1342924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslieking Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I have the same problem GH22NS40. Is there a way to fix this problem in DSDT? 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1357272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo_pepperjack Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Strange ... My TSST (Samsung Toshiba Storage Technology) SH-223 doesn't seem to cause any sleep problems. This is true with or without a disk in it. TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223F: Capacity: 584.1 MB (584,122,368 bytes) Model: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223F Revision: SB03 Serial Number: Native Command Queuing: No Removable Media: Yes Detachable Drive: No BSD Name: disk3 Power Off: No Async Notification: Yes Partition Map Type: APM (Apple Partition Map) S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1375380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zim2dive Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Just to add to the list SAMSUNG TS-H663B/UOAH SATA will not sleep without a disc inserted (I have not tried just disabling HD sleep yet) lite-on DH-20A4H PATA will not properly wake up (goes into an endless loop trying to read the inserted CD) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1379581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmzhuai123 Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I find a way to enabe the autosleep here. http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=182535 It's works for me, My dvd burner: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T50L: Model: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T50L Revision: SR04 Serial Number: K0087PJ1805 Native Command Queuing: No Detachable Drive: No Power Off: No Async Notification: Yes Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/171929-dvd-burner-may-cause-sleep-on-idle-to-fail/#findComment-1385588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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