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I installed leopard retail and for some reason I have no auto boot.

Drive is setup as MBR.

 

Also is it possible to get rid of drives that are not bootable. I have 7 hds and all show up on

list looks cluttered.

 

Thanks

 

Anyone help on this site? No one run in to this?

The Finale of Seem
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Let's add to that:

 

Chameleon should play nice with multiple drives. Right now I'm having an utterly maddening time trying to get a dual drive Hackie to work properly. It looks like the only way to do that might be Windows 7, but all that's doing is saving me the trouble of mucking with XP and AHCI. It still wont work no matter which drive or partition Chameleon is on. Can Chameleon PLEASE work fine in multi-drive systems no matter which drive it's on?

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I have 5 drives on my system and Chameleon sees them all. No problem booting Windows 7rc1, Vista x64sp1, OSX, or linux. Not sure what your problem is from what little you posted, but yes, it does work.

I'd love to know what you're doing differently. My list of {censored} that has been done...

 

Get Gigabyte EP45-DS3P board and build system. Check BIOS several times to make sure everything is kosher for a Hackie.

Install Windows on one drive. No problem, runs fine.

Install OS X on the other. Runs well enough. Install Chameleon. Boots OS X fine, but Chameleon is text-only and will not work if I use any modifiers, ie, -f or -v. Wont boot Windows at all. Hangs a half second after you select it and doesn't even change the screen.

According to advice found after the fact (Oh, by the way, Chameleon doesn't always like multiple drive systems), partition Windows volume to include a small HFS+ partition. Boot from Windows drive. Nope, doesn't even get to Chameleon. Just throws an error.

Repartition Windows drive to put Chameleon at the beginning of the drive rather than the end. It kind of works this time, but putting the board into AHCI mode throws an error before Chameleon even loads. Regardless, Windows is not liking AHCI no matter what I do. Even installing the driver at the installer with F6 still results in a BSOD once the installer loads all drivers and starts the Windows setup.

Erase Windows drive and install Windows 7, partitioning the drive at the installer to include a small partition at the front, then the Windows partitions. Windows 7 installs and runs fine under AHCI. Reboot to OSX, format small partition and install Chameleon. Try to run off of the Windows partition...nope, it hangs after DMI pool data is verified, just sits there with a blinking underscore. Try to boot from the Chameleon installed on the OS X drive and it chucks an error when you select Windows. At least that's more than it did before.

 

The next step is to lob the computer out the damned window and scream curses at the Chameleon team.

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Ok, well first it sounds like your Chameleon install is borked. It should boot up graphically. So first thing I would do is go grab the gui installer for Chameleon 2rc1 and reinstall it on your OSX drive.

 

You don't need to do any of that other stuff to the windows partition...it doesn't need to be guid partitioned, mbr is fine. However, I would make sure your OSX drive is GUID. When you install Windows7/Vista, it has to be to the 1st drive...after it's installed you can move it anywhere and boot it with chameleon.

 

So - if you want to duplicate what I did (we have the similar mb)

 

Unplug all your drives accept the one (this is probably unnecessary, but lets simplify)

 

Partition the drive as GUID (single partition) and Install OSX..

 

Install Chameleon 2rc1 with the GUI installer.

 

At this point you should be able to set the startup drive in the bios and boot with Chameleon coming up in GUI mode. If your not getting to this point, then something else is wrong and thats what you need to work on.

 

Plug in your Windows 7 drive reboot and it should see that one too...and let you select it for boot. I've used GUID disks and MBR disks for the windows drives and Chameleon was able to see and boot both without issues.

 

 

On very rare occasions, I've needed to boot with an Ubuntu CD and use g-parted to re-partition disks to straighten out MBR/GUID issues. For example Vista and W7 won't install to a disk formated with GUID alot of times. Another trick to fix this is to boot with an XP CD and let it format the drive like you were going to install and cancel out after thats done...you shouldn't need to do that though, but if all else fails try that. Oh...and leave AHCI on and turn off the j-micron ports on your board. Make sure your using a good Boot-123 disk specific for your motherboard to boot your OSX install DVD before you try to use disk utility. There are several floating around.

 

Here are my complete notes for my EP45-UD3P install -

 

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php...p;#entry1142477

The Finale of Seem
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Ok, well first it sounds like your Chameleon install is borked. It should boot up graphically. So first thing I would do is go grab the gui installer for Chameleon 2rc1 and reinstall it on your OSX drive.

Done that short of nuking the OS X drive and reinstalling, which may well be my next step. For reference, the thread on Chameleon not always liking multiple drives is here

You don't need to do any of that other stuff to the windows partition...it doesn't need to be guid partitioned, mbr is fine. However, I would make sure your OSX drive is GUID. When you install Windows7/Vista, it has to be to the 1st drive...after it's installed you can move it anywhere and boot it with chameleon.

I only tried a GUID partition once when I was scratching my head and wondering why Chameleon wouldn't work. OS X is GUID, Windows is MBR. Now, by first drive, do you mean on SATA port 0? I do have the SATA DVD-RW plugged into port 0. Windows is in port 1, OS X in port 2. If the drive order is a sticking point, can I just reorder them or do I need to put the Windows drive in port 0, nuke it over again, and then nuke OS X as well and install Chameleon? I don't mind doing so if it has a good chance of working.

So - if you want to duplicate what I did (we have the similar mb)

 

Unplug all your drives accept the one (this is probably unnecessary, but lets simplify)

 

Partition the drive as GUID (single partition) and Install OSX..

 

Install Chameleon 2rc1 with the GUI installer.

 

At this point you should be able to set the startup drive in the bios and boot with Chameleon coming up in GUI mode. If your not getting to this point, then something else is wrong and thats what you need to work on.

Got that far, but Chameleon always booted in text-only mode. I think I neglected to check the boxes for GUI. I've reinstalled Chameleon, but that doesn't change anything. Is there a Chameleon 2rc1 uninstaller? It doesn't seem to have that option short of blasting the OS X partition.

Plug in your Windows 7 drive reboot and it should see that one too...and let you select it for boot. I've used GUID disks and MBR disks for the windows drives and Chameleon was able to see and boot both without issues.

On very rare occasions, I've needed to boot with an Ubuntu CD and use g-parted to re-partition disks to straighten out MBR/GUID issues. For example Vista and W7 won't install to a disk formated with GUID alot of times. Another trick to fix this is to boot with an XP CD and let it format the drive like you were going to install and cancel out after thats done...you shouldn't need to do that though, but if all else fails try that. Oh...and leave AHCI on and turn off the j-micron ports on your board. Make sure your using a good Boot-123 disk specific for your motherboard to boot your OSX install DVD before you try to use disk utility. There are several floating around.

 

Here are my complete notes for my EP45-UD3P install -

 

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php...p;#entry1142477

I think I actually used your tutorial, which worked dandy for getting OS X going. Installation of OS X was a lot easier than I thought it would be. It's getting it to play nice with Windows...

The Finale of Seem
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Something is definitely borked. I've unplugged the Windows drive, put the OS X drive in port 0, and reinstalled OS X fresh. Ran updates to 10.5.6, reinstalled 2rc1 from the package...and I have the EXACT SAME DAMNED PROBLEM! Text only Chameleon, no GUI. Hangs with a white bar at the top of the screen when I try any boot modifiers, even -v. This was from a brand-new, fresh install, no extra kexts or drivers installed either.

 

And now OS X is KPing after I tried running it as -v and it hung up. I can't even run it in -v now to see what the hell the problem is! I know this damn computer is stable as I stress tested the hell out of it in Windows!

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Great. Now, after a 100& clean OS X installation, OS X KPs only after Chameleon has been loaded. If I boot from the 132 CD, it comes up fine. It didn't do this before.

 

Isn't there an alternative to Chameleon out there? Something that isn't a bug-riddled pile of {censored}, perhaps?

 

EDIT: What the HELL? About the third time, I installed 10.5 with a small partition at the front. Well, Chameleon didn't work on the small partition, so I deleted it and installed on Macintosh HD. I NOW HAVE GUI! I have NO clue why. I don't know what the hell I did differently. I got the disabler kext installed and OS X now boots! The thing, Windows 7 STILL IS NOT BOOTING. It throws a bootmgr error of some sort. Chameleon is also showing the tiny partition that I deleted before installing it to the main partition. Huh?

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SUCCESS! FINALLY! Apparently you have to select the little 100MB system partition in Windows 7 instead of the main NTFS partition. I have no bloody clue why that is, but I don't give a damn now. OS X and Windows 7 are both working out of the Chameleon install on the OS X drive after a week of hair pulling, hitting inanimate objects, and cursing the likes of which would make a sailor, Jack Rebney, and Tourettes Guy envious. But whatever, it's working now. All that's left to do is wait for 10.5.7 so my 4830 works and the worst I'll have to worry about are little tweaks and adjustments.

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Well back to post, anyone know why I do not have auto boot. I must select which drive to boot from. It does not count down. Also it lists all of my partitions as bootable leaving a rather cluttered look.

Heh, yeah, sorry for the hijack. It seems that this is default behavior for Chameleon. Perhaps the final Chameleon 2 will be better able to distinguish what is bootable and what is not.

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SUCCESS! FINALLY! Apparently you have to select the little 100MB system partition in Windows 7 instead of the main NTFS partition. I have no bloody clue why that is, but I don't give a damn now. OS X and Windows 7 are both working out of the Chameleon install on the OS X drive after a week of hair pulling, hitting inanimate objects, and cursing the likes of which would make a sailor, Jack Rebney, and Tourettes Guy envious. But whatever, it's working now. All that's left to do is wait for 10.5.7 so my 4830 works and the worst I'll have to worry about are little tweaks and adjustments.

 

Your bad experiences are interesting. I have a similar setup: two installations of OSX on one partitioned drive, a data drive with XP (which I will delete soon) and a third one with XP. When I boot on the OSX drive, I get the nice chameleon and it gives me four choices. Both OSX boot with no problem, none of the windows work from Chameleon. I get a black screen with a blinking "-" in the top left corner. I'll try to put the OSX drive on the Sata 0 to see if it makes any difference.

The XP installs are clean - did them on their own, with the other drives unplugged. Does it make a difference? Also, I'm wondering if cloning the small XP drive on the second partition of my OSX drive would make it work from Chameleon. Any idea?

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