ATI Moblity Radeon HD 3650 on iDeneb 1.3

[Samjung]

Dont want it to be USB..thats is just plain..well ugly. Want it put in my ExpressCard slot

[ridgeline]

If you could determine which is a broadcom chipset you should be able to get it to work in the express slot

 

 

Woot 300th post

[l3bed]

For sake of ease I'm changing some naming in natit stuff, so should someone get things loaded with any particular test, I'll be able to tell which ones worked in the system profiler.

 

All of my tests will not include the frameworks that go with them, its too hard for me to throw that stuff together at work with limited time - so for now, for all of these tests, install lastexile's package, and then, before you click restart, install these "test" kexts with the osx aplication 'kexthelper' as it will eliminate permission issues, then restart.

 

1) --> Lastexile's complied package of my november test 2 <--

2) --> fuji1 kexts <--

 

In this test, I added 3400 series and 3670 to the plist, so natit should control your cards now. I know I dont have it listed as M80etc series in the plist, but for the sake of testing I feel this is best right now, since our success with the current ones is the non mobility setup also.

 

There is something extremely screwed up that I did in this test, since someone expressed to us that the edid changes I made may have helped thier internal lcd show up, I decided to remove all the entries that I could see pointing to DVI / LCD displays and change th em -ALL- to LVDS the best I could, I have no idea what I'm doing with that stuff, so its sort of just me scewing around and hoping something works.

 

IDK, lots of screwed up stuff, give it a shot.

 

I install only fuji 1 kexts and i have this result:

AtiX2000 is not load. When I put my id in X2000 plist i have garbage screen

Any solution?

[chopped]

external or internal screen?

[l3bed]

external or internal screen?

Internal screen.

[chopped]

ok, another test result that i i think makes a little more sense. as i said before, my laptop has a fn key + f7 that changes the screen image displayed on screen to a more native resolution for example if i press the key when im in osx in 1024*786 mode(which i cant seem to change withe graphics mode prompt), they screen goes in to 4:3 mode with black bars on the side and the graphics look much clearer.

with that said, i installed the fujilives test1 kexts and restarted.

 

well on boot i pressed the key and bios showed up in 3:4 format, i was in verbose mode so allthe text scrolled past and the blue screen came on. when the blue screen came on my monitor went back to native resolution mode meaning that the blue screen i can get is in 1280*800 resolution hopefully meaning that the card is enabled.

 

i dont know how this helps or if it helps but i think when we get to the blue screen (in my native resolution i specified in boot.plist) its much closer to out goal than getting the image distortion in just 1024*768

[Boombeng]

I install only fuji 1 kexts and i have this result:

AtiX2000 is not load. When I put my id in X2000 plist i have garbage screen

Any solution?

 

Good morning all

 

That is very interesting for 95c4 cards aka HD3450M or HD3470M who both are M82 chips, kind of RV620 chip ported for mobility.

That means ATIRadeonX2000.kext does not support yet M82 chips (I think it's the same for HD34X0 desktop models 95C0 95C5 95C6 95C7 and 95C9 all based on RV620 chips). BUT that also means that chips fit well to Megalodon framebuffer, as far as it can send a DVI/VGA signal to @0 and @1, and not LVDS or HDMI signal.

 

So here are the status :

 

HD36X0M aka M86 (RV635 ported for mobility) ID 9591 and 9593

 

> supported by ATIRadeonX2000.kext = QE/CI

> supported by Megalodon Framebuffer if you have DVI/VGA to @0 or @1

 

 

HD34X0M aka M82 (RV620 ported for mobility) ID 95C4 and 95C2

 

> Not supported by ATIRadeonX2000.kext = NO QE/CI

> supported by Megalodon Framebuffer if you have DVI/VGA to @0 or @1

 

 

Some of the laptops have good signal on internal (and external ?) because they can both receive DVI/VGA signal (special internal display connection in Toshiba A300), some can only have good signal to external because the internal connection @0 is LVDS and external @1 is DVI/VGA, and some laptops (as Dell studio) can not have good signal neither on internal or external because internal @0 is LVDS and we guess external @1 is hdmi and the vga must be a third line out that meagalodon can not see (no @2...) [EDIT] because of special internal connections that megalodon doesn't support (HDMI is not the problem, it works on some HD Radeon, it's just the same signal as DVI plus sound)

 

That's what I understood (reading this thread and so many others and talking to IRC, thx Paranoïd ), may be there are some errors...

 

Cheers

[jarodsix]

HD36X0M aka M86 (RV635 ported for mobility) ID 9591 and 9593

 

> supported by ATIRadeonX2000.kext = QE/CI

> supported by Megalodon Framebuffer if you have DVI/VGA to @0 or @1

... some can only have good signal to external because the internal connection @0 is LVDS and external @1 is DVI/VGA,....

This is precisely the behaviour in my HP 8530p. Fully working on external, nothing on internal (or garbage with another kexts). So I suppose I indeed have LVDS @0. So you are saying we just need a new/modified Megalodon framebuffer, or maybe could we use some other framebuffer that would support LVDS on internal screen?

Just for a note, this HP 8530p has three connections: 1 internal (LCD), 2 external - VGA and HDMI.

[Boombeng]

This is precisely the behaviour in my HP 8530p. Fully working on external, nothing on internal (or garbage with another kexts). So I suppose I indeed have LVDS @0. So you are saying we just need a new/modified Megalodon framebuffer, or maybe could we use some other framebuffer that would support LVDS on internal screen?

Just for a note, this HP 8530p has three connections: 1 internal (LCD), 2 external - VGA and HDMI.

 

Hi

 

For the moment all my/and-others trials with other framebuffers did not work...

 

EDIT : I wonder if and how is it possible to send signal to VGA line out for those laptops who have one and don't receive signals... your HP 8530p have signal on VGA even with an HDMI line out! Is it a mapping issue or something like that ?

 

EDIT2 : I mean because others laptops (dell studio 17) with same gfx and same external connections (vga and hdmi) don't even have signal on vga

[mairhons]

I read this discussion since a few days, and i will try your kexts.

but I am not sure if they work with my Ati Mobility 2600.

 

So before I do this, i ask you, which kexts and what should i change for my 2600?

[makepies]

... and some laptops (as Dell studio) can not have good signal neither on internal or external because internal @0 is LVDS and we guess external @1 is hdmi and the vga must be a third line out that meagalodon can not see (no @2...).

 

Why does it always seem that I choose the configurations that no-one can get to work?!??!

 

Does anyone know roughly how many cards are working 100% and how many projects are on the go to get others to work?

[applehacker]

how close are we to getting qe/ci on the mobility 3470? I happen to have a toshiba p305 (what i call the tank series), so do we use the special lvds connector? Does megadelon framebuffer + injection into ati x2000 work?

[Boombeng]

how close are we to getting qe/ci on the mobility 3470?

? but not yet

I happen to have a toshiba p305 (what i call the tank series), so do we use the special lvds connector?

You have 2 options to know that, you can open your laptop and find the connector and the chip interface or

just try the kexts...

Does megadelon framebuffer + injection into ati x2000 work?

Depens on question 1 and 2's answers...

[Fujilives]

This will probably be my last post on this topic for a long time again.

 

For those of you with other model video cards that use a different internal display connector (i.e. the toshiba 300~ series laptops) you can add your card's id to the kext files and stand a chance at having things work - odds are looking in your favor. However, for the majority of people, the connector inside laptops with these cards seems to not work with megalodon framebuffer.

 

Last night I was up til 5 am (I have to be to work at 8, so I'm @ work right now and tired as hell), with the help of dark, sg, ridgeline, and most importantly Joe (thank you so much for the guidance) I was able to install snow-leopard's newest release to see if the video-drivers would be of any use. You should note that with 0 changes to the kexts, my id (3650 mobility) was in the x2000 kext and it tried to load with no injectors or anything as a result. However, snow kernal panicked with a message about not being able to find something it needed "@0" with the framebuffer it was using - so presumably we have the same problem we have had in 10.5 leapard, where it cant find the proper display to output to. I dont know enough about these things to take this any further, and when I ask questions to the people who I think might know, I feel like I am violating thier space and wasting thier time (I'm pretty sure they feel like that), which I do not want to do. I was going to make a small blog and put a step by step guide and if needed, a video tutorial on how to get QE/CI going from scratch if I could get things to work - but no such luck

 

I will mess with things a bit more and give you guys a zip of (presumably useless) ati files from the newest snow leo before I stop so you can mess with them if you want, but I'd wager the video kexts will not be backwards compatable at all - but it'll at least be something for people to play with.

[karim76]

congratulations for your work, everyone should help the other to move forward! Can not you save your files zip line? Thank you very much.

 

You must all work together ...

[ridgeline]

Fuji, thank you for all you have done as well as LastExile. The good news is that the sytem recognized your card Fuji even if it did not work. This is only the third beta release of SL that I am aware of so keep the faith.... With a newly designed video driver layout in snow it is unlikely that the drivers will even bee seen in Leopard. Working together is what this forum and the osx86 irc channels are for please if you understand more than another please share and help this community continue to grow I have been a memeber for a long time and just started to be confident in helping others with there setup. We are all here to learn and try new things until we get it right. I am thankful for all who have helped me and I plan on helping others that are in the same situation I once was. And those of you that don't know much now please remember as you get better and I am sure you all will, don't forget you did not know it all when you started.

Thanks,

[dbmb]

Hello everybody. I've got an ASUS F8SP laptop, with a HD mobility 3650 too (1024MB version). I was hoping to make it work with the help of this thread, but I had no luck, as most of us. However, I have got a little additional problem.

I followed exactly the path of YannickD (ie remove ATI*, first trial 1, then trial 2). Trial 1 failed, in the sense I got some screen displaying a buggy mozaic with weird colors. Then I rebooted with -x, and gave trial 2 a chance. This time, the screen just went black, as if it was switched off (I'm talking about my laptop screen, I've got no external screen). But when I rebooted with -x, strangely, I still had the same problem of black screen. I booted in -s and removed all ATI* kext, still the same problem... I booted again in single user and restored all the previous expensions I backed up before the test, but still... the screen just switches to black after the apple logo and moving circle, no matter what. Actually I am able to see the blue desktop about a tenth of a second before the screen justs switched off (or is on but black).

Am I missing something obvious? (I also removed the Extension.mkext*). And also I wanted to mention that LastExile's last package, which is supposed to be roughly equivalent to Fujilives' second trial if I have followed correctly actually gives different results on my laptop. LastExile's ones is similar to trial 1 (ie strage mozaic, and rebooting with -x works), while trial 2 just causes that black screen problem, that remains even after removing the kexts... If anyone knows a way to fix this without reinstalling everything, I would really appreciate.

Thanks,

DBMB

[chopped]

Hello everybody. I've got an ASUS F8SP laptop, with a HD mobility 3650 too (1024MB version). I was hoping to make it work with the help of this thread, but I had no luck, as most of us. However, I have got a little additional problem.

I followed exactly the path of YannickD (ie remove ATI*, first trial 1, then trial 2). Trial 1 failed, in the sense I got some screen displaying a buggy mozaic with weird colors. Then I rebooted with -x, and gave trial 2 a chance. This time, the screen just went black, as if it was switched off (I'm talking about my laptop screen, I've got no external screen). But when I rebooted with -x, strangely, I still had the same problem of black screen. I booted in -s and removed all ATI* kext, still the same problem... I booted again in single user and restored all the previous expensions I backed up before the test, but still... the screen just switches to black after the apple logo and moving circle, no matter what. Actually I am able to see the blue desktop about a tenth of a second before the screen justs switched off (or is on but black).

Am I missing something obvious? (I also removed the Extension.mkext*). And also I wanted to mention that LastExile's last package, which is supposed to be roughly equivalent to Fujilives' second trial if I have followed correctly actually gives different results on my laptop. LastExile's ones is similar to trial 1 (ie strage mozaic, and rebooting with -x works), while trial 2 just causes that black screen problem, that remains even after removing the kexts... If anyone knows a way to fix this without reinstalling everything, I would really appreciate.

Thanks,

DBMB

remove natit.kext and every kext with ati in the file name. that helped me.

[ridgeline]

In addition to those files you should remove the /s/l/Extensions.mkext

and the s/l/e/Caches

[makepies]

... However, for the majority of people, the connector inside laptops with these cards seems to not work with megalodon framebuffer. ...

 

So anyone know what the next step is? Are we dead in the water with the megalodon framebuffer? Does anyone know of any ongoing projects that figure this one out or is that pretty much it?

 

I'm happy to help on any ongoing projects, but unless someone much, much smarter than me is on-board, I think we're probably all just S-O-L with these ATI mobility cards ... Toshiba's excepted.

 

Regards,

[dbmb]

In addition to those files you should remove the /s/l/Extensions.mkext

and the s/l/e/Caches

 

That fixed it! The fact it was failing despite the -x boot sounds like magic to me but anyway, thanks a lot!

[Sign_90]

I have tried all the one which you have proposed but it does not work.

my mobility 3650 not work

[flyduffer]

So, what's the final result?! Is it any progress at mobility driver for HD2600 (not pro, not xt, but 512MB DDR2)?

Also is it any working driver for mobility x1250/x1270, which is my integrated chip at my fu***** Asus F3ka, where I have installed all the releases for AMD CPUS, and always have problems.

Will be driver or will be not

Thanks a lot.

 

PS: You can see that I have only a two posts, but I had read maybe 20-40 topics with fast all the pages, and tried everything so...I'm not a new, please don't shout at me :angry2:

[Fraist]

Hello I have a SONY VGN-FW21Z with ATI HD 3650 ID=9591. (resolution 1920x1080)

I install the iDeneb 1.4 and test the second package of drivers without any result.

In console I remove the Natit.kext and after I boot I install the fist package with ATI control panel and also the second package again as yankee did. I get a black screen with purple white and yellow lines.

Do you believe that could be found a solution or we have cards.

I am ready to install and test any driver available.

[makepies]

No, for now there isn't much in the way of 'results' on getting these cards to work.

 

That means that, in the short term, you're probably stuck like the rest of us unless you have one of these Toshibas previously mentioned.

 

Apparently there is some hard work going on in the background by 'mac gods' but I don't think you'll see postings from them until they have something worth testing. So sit tight and check back in the future.