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I havent gotten around to updating to 10.5.7 yet

 

Still on the 4/22 script.

 

But i did run the terminal command to make 'hibernatemode 2'

and updated bios to f8b

 

now i can wake from sleep with no issues so far... 5 days and no weird stuff yet.

 

before with hibernatemode 0 and bios f6

i got funky mouse and display problems waking up.

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That review is a bit over-exaggerated. We had some report about this PSU squeal, but that was resolved by simply turning off the power-saving feature in the BIOS, unlike what was claimed. Power-saving techniques will invariably introduce noise (squeals or chirps of various frequencies) in the PSU as the PWM circuits change frequencies or pulse widths to control supply power. That's just a natural (although irritating) byproduct of this feature. But, I think this is dependent on the type of PSU one uses and the load it must supply.

That's why I asked because sometimes it's a disgruntled person. So just disable the bios power saving option, that's easy so its a non issue for me now.

 

Am I right that this is the most fully supported i7 mobo? I'm looking to replace my G5 Power Mac video editing station but I'm having a hard time stomaching the price of this board. I can wait until the price comes down or go with less expensive mobo if its supported enough to edit video with Final Cut Pro. I've seen a few using the UD3 but looks like more ppl are writing for this board. This forum is nice but for a casual observer its hard to keep up with what's the best hardware to use.

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That review is a bit over-exaggerated. We had some report about this PSU squeal, but that was resolved by simply turning off the power-saving feature in the BIOS, unlike what was claimed. Power-saving techniques will invariably introduce noise (squeals or chirps of various frequencies) in the PSU as the PWM circuits change frequencies or pulse widths to control supply power. That's just a natural (although irritating) byproduct of this feature. But, I think this is dependent on the type of PSU one uses and the load it must supply.

What option is this? I hear these squeals when using the front high-def audio port and figured they were unavoidable.

 

Am I right that this is the most fully supported i7 mobo? I'm looking to replace my G5 Power Mac video editing station but I'm having a hard time stomaching the price of this board. I can wait until the price comes down or go with less expensive mobo if its supported enough to edit video with Final Cut Pro. I've seen a few using the UD3 but looks like more ppl are writing for this board. This forum is nice but for a casual observer its hard to keep up with what's the best hardware to use.

I think the UD4 is just fine (correct me if I'm wrong) to use here. This is def. the i7 board to get, and DD's script reduces it down to a science...well, almost. 10.5.7 helps a lot, too. It took me about 3 or 4 installs to get it right, but I got a very usable system very quickly.

 

After using this uber thick motherboard, everything else seems fragile. I'm pretty pleased with the UD5, even with the $300 price tag. In 6 months (assuming the price falls), it will be a great deal for everything you get on it. Ten USB ports, Firewire port (only one, though; TI chipset I believe), 7.1 channel audio, ten SATA ports, (6 of them RAID I think), 2 GigE ports, 6 RAM slots, SLI support, and a really powerful BIOS. I'm an ASUS fanboy but I've been pretty impressed with this board.

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After using this uber thick motherboard, everything else seems fragile. I'm pretty pleased with the UD5, even with the $300 price tag. In 6 months (assuming the price falls), it will be a great deal for everything you get on it. Ten USB ports, Firewire port (only one, though; TI chipset I believe), 7.1 channel audio, ten SATA ports, (6 of them RAID I think), 2 GigE ports, 6 RAM slots, SLI support, and a really powerful BIOS. I'm an ASUS fanboy but I've been pretty impressed with this board.

 

Both the UD4 and UD5 have 12 usb ports (8 rear and 4 internal via headers). Also, although they both only have 1 rear firewire port, both have two internal headers bringing the total number of firewire ports to 3.

 

You can find a list of brackets here.

 

For $9 you can get this bracket which has two of each ports.

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What option is this? I hear these squeals when using the front high-def audio port and figured they were unavoidable.

Now I'm confused. I thought the squeal was an external noise like the whine of a fan coming from the psu, but from what you're saying its an electric noise that gets picked up by the audio chip on and is broadcast to the speakers? And by power save mode is this like sleep mode that after 15 minutes it reduces the power like to a hard drive but only the psu?

 

I think the UD4 is just fine (correct me if I'm wrong) to use here.

Current prices are: UD3 $185, UD4 $240, UD5 $289 with shipping is almost $300 and with a cpu its $600 which is just obscene. For me I don't see any features worth paying an extra $100 over the base model. But like I said the only reason makes me consider the UD5 is its OSX favored.

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New legacyJMicronATASATAIDE.kext (5/16/2009 v3.6 X58 Mobo Patch Installer) usb and firewire in system profiler, but does not appear on desktop. :(

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I just plugged in my LaCie Quadra (button) hard drive via FW400 and it mounted just fine. Since you have a issue with USB, too, I'm curious if you have the proper System.kext in S/L/E. You can use System Profiler to see what version your System.kext is: System/Software/Extentions/System. You may have installed the Voodoo version at some time.

 

Does the drive show up in Disk Utility, or do they mount at boot time?

 

What option is this? I hear these squeals when using the front high-def audio port and figured they were unavoidable.

I think the UD4 is just fine (correct me if I'm wrong) to use here. This is def. the i7 board to get, and DD's script reduces it down to a science...well, almost. 10.5.7 helps a lot, too. It took me about 3 or 4 installs to get it right, but I got a very usable system very quickly.

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IIRC, the option is CPU Enhanced Halt (CIE) under Advanced CPU Features. But, the squeals I'm referring to are externally created. Although it's possible for them to be introduced internally, I'm not sure that's the case in this board.

I also agree the other less expensive X58 boards from Gigabyte are good options.

 

regards,

MAJ

 

Now I'm confused. I thought the squeal was an external noise like the whine of a fan coming from the psu, but from what you're saying its an electric noise that gets picked up by the audio chip on and is broadcast to the speakers? And by power save mode is this like sleep mode that after 15 minutes it reduces the power like to a hard drive but only the psu?

Current prices are: UD3 $185, UD4 $240, UD5 $289 with shipping is almost $300 and with a cpu its $600 which is just obscene. For me I don't see any features worth paying an extra $100 over the base model. But like I said the only reason makes me consider the UD5 is its OSX favored.

The power saving mode I was referring only affects power being delivered to the CPU itself. This is a board feature that is controlled by the CPU and BIOS. And, you're correct that it is generally noted for creating an external noise.

 

IIRC, the UD5 was among the first X58 released from Gigabyte, so this is the board many of us early-adopters got started with. The other less expensive boards were released later. As far as OS X compatibility (having just looked at the specifications of all the boards), I don't see any having an advantage over the other. The ALC889A audio chip is only on the UD5, Extreme, and UD4P. The others have the ALC888, which from a chip POV, is well supported, but the pin layout has just been recently ironed out (again, IIRC).

 

regards,

MAJ

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I thought everything was fine with my system after updating to 10.5.7 but I noticed the CPU cores seem to be running hot, anywhere from 72 - 76 degrees Celsius. Could this be because sleep isn't working properly? I can't tell; the monitor seems to go to sleep and wakes up properly but I don't think the hard drive and CPU are going to sleep since the fans seem to be running all the time. Also, I'm running the f6 bios. Would I get any benefits by updating to a newer bios? Thanks.

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I thought everything was fine with my system after updating to 10.5.7 but I noticed the CPU cores seem to be running hot, anywhere from 72 - 76 degrees Celsius. Could this be because sleep isn't working properly? I can't tell; the monitor seems to go to sleep and wakes up properly but I don't think the hard drive and CPU are going to sleep since the fans seem to be running all the time. Also, I'm running the f6 bios. Would I get any benefits by updating to a newer bios? Thanks.

 

probably your bios is set for S1 sleep instead of S3. if you are talking about 100% load temperatures, those temps are fine. if those are idle temps you have serious problems. what kind of heatsink/fan do you have? cpu temps are not connected with sleep working or not working.

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I'd just like to chime in with another success story using D_D's script (v3.6) :P

 

Bought my first "PC" this week. First time non-Apple, and have to say I was a bit jittery putting all the parts together.

 

I first tried to install striping my two 1 TB drives, but that turned out to be a little too complicated for my liking (this is my first foray into the world of hackintoshes after all). So instead I reformated the drives (which took me a while, since Chameleon still tried to boot from the incomplete install on those drives, forcing me to first unplug them, start from my external usb hdd and then plug them back in).

 

I then just installed 10.5 and the 10.5.7 combo update from the external drive (running Kalyway), removed the Natit.kext from the install folder and ran D_D's script (all the necessary steps). I then ran OSX86Tools and generated an efi string for my 9800 gtx+ and inserted this in the boot.plist, and corrected permissions.

 

One restart later I was filling in my account info, put the network cable in, got my PPPoE up and running and started downloading all available software updates. Totally seamless and no hickups! Graphics card works like a charm.

 

Sound works, though I can hear some chirping when I plug headphones into the front jack, and I don't have a microphone to test the mic jack with.

 

I have had a few KP:s, all of which happened due to CoreRAIDServer, which I've searched for but not exactly found anything useful on. I'm going to see if I can narrow down what I'm doing when it happens before I start asking about it here though. I had it running for two days straight before the first one occured. Will try setting manual bios settings (which I read could be a good thing), and try hibernatemode 2. (Also, I haven't actually checked what version of the bios I'm running...)

 

My parts:

 

EX58-UD5

920 D0 stepping

3x2GB A-Data 1333 MHz CL8

Geforce 9800 GTX+ 512MB Kuroutoshikou (Japanese brand)

2x1TB HDD Western Digital Caviar Green

LG GH22NS30B-B "Superdrive"

Case: Gigabyte GZ-X1 (silver)

PSU: Keian Gaia KEP-470W (not planning very high OC or SLI/Crossfire)

 

Thanks a bunch to MAJ and everyone else contributing in this thread! I've read every page (been following for a while) and I wouldn't even have attempted this without you.

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I have the basic intel heatsink. Those temps were yesterday night; i had been doing video conversion the whole day. Today I've had the computer on an hour and been doing only light web surfing and the temps are between 58 - 62 degrees. So like you implied it might have been the cores were hot after working all day yesterday. I'll check to see if I have S3 sleep enabled, thanks.

 

 

 

probably your bios is set for S1 sleep instead of S3. if you are talking about 100% load temperatures, those temps are fine. if those are idle temps you have serious problems. what kind of heatsink/fan do you have? cpu temps are not connected with sleep working or not working.
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I'd just like to chime in with another success story using D_D's script (v3.6) :happymac:

 

(Also, I haven't actually checked what version of the bios I'm running...)

 

My parts:

 

EX58-UD5

920 D0 stepping

3x2GB A-Data 1333 MHz CL8

Geforce 9800 GTX+ 512MB Kuroutoshikou (Japanese brand)

2x1TB HDD Western Digital Caviar Green

LG GH22NS30B-B "Superdrive"

Case: Gigabyte GZ-X1 (silver)

PSU: Keian Gaia KEP-470W (not planning very high OC or SLI/Crossfire)

 

Thanks a bunch to MAJ and everyone else contributing in this thread! I've read every page (been following for a while) and I wouldn't even have attempted this without you.

 

Congratulations ! :( Welcome to the EX58-UD5 Mobo band !

 

Since you have the latest stepping D0 Core i7 920, it would be good to update if necessary to at least F5 bios (latest stable = F7) Gigabyte D-0 stepping support is garantied from F5 and higher !

 

Have a good day

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I have the basic intel heatsink. Those temps were yesterday night; i had been doing video conversion the whole day. Today I've had the computer on an hour and been doing only light web surfing and the temps are between 58 - 62 degrees. So like you implied it might have been the cores were hot after working all day yesterday. I'll check to see if I have S3 sleep enabled, thanks.

 

the thermal mass of the heatsink/cpu system is such that it should be able to return to idle temperatures after about 30-60s at idle. those temps must have been while you were doing the video encoding...

 

anyway the stock cooler is pretty poor - i've gotten a 20C reduction by using a cooler master N520, and its not a particularly great heatsink...

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I havent gotten around to updating to 10.5.7 yet

 

Still on the 4/22 script.

 

But i did run the terminal command to make 'hibernatemode 2'

and updated bios to f8b

 

now i can wake from sleep with no issues so far... 5 days and no weird stuff yet.

 

before with hibernatemode 0 and bios f6

i got funky mouse and display problems waking up.

 

For mangopeach

 

Me too. I have deep sleep issues on 10.5.6 and script V3.5. Especially when it's done manualy selecting "Suspend activity" from the Apple menu. I figured that out when everyone start talking about sleep problems on 10.5.7. The funny (?) thing is that it's a common issue for MBP new series owners. Like described here or here.

I also think that it's related to how BIOS handels power management (despite the options "full-on/off/memory" preset you can choose for "AC power loss") and the way that the system behave on sleep (the options on hibernate mode).

 

Anyway, I don't use sleep on a desktop computer what so ever.

 

 

For MAJ.

 

You were wondering why the guy with a 4,2Ghz OC was able to keep is Temp so low (like 69C or something I remember) when you experience Temp such as 89C in full load mode (prime95 stress test) ?

 

Answer is that there is 2 different mesures of Temp. One is Cpu Temp (call "Tcase"), the other is core temp. And the difference between the tow of them is big, and gets bigger when you overclock you CPU and voltage.

 

"The core i7, like all cpus, is calibrated on average such that at 130W TDP load, core temp reaches 100C when Tcase max of 69C is reached, in other words a gradient of 31C exists between core temp and Tcase at 130W TDP. So if you are using core temps, you are out of spec when core temp is over 100C. When you start overclocking, and raise Vcore and mhz, TDP will exceed 130W, and the gradient will be even higher. Also if you are running at stock, the TDP is going to be lower than 130W at prime load, so you will be out of spec prior to reaching 100C tjmax or Tcase 69C."

source

 

Using Temperature Monitor from OSX, you mesure Core Temp (unless most of soft on windows). Regarding to Intel Spec you are juste fine with 89C for Core Temp in Prime95 stress test conditions. My Temps are the same @ 3,8Ghz with a Noctua.

 

 

Have a good day.

 

 

 

For WilliamsEph97

 

I have the basic intel heatsink. Those temps were yesterday night; i had been doing video conversion the whole day. Today I've had the computer on an hour and been doing only light web surfing and the temps are between 58 - 62 degrees. So like you implied it might have been the cores were hot after working all day yesterday. I'll check to see if I have S3 sleep enabled, thanks.

 

How are you mesuring ? What are you mesuring (see last post) ? have you done some OC ? What is room Temp ? What is your case ?

 

You understand me, Temp are a sensitive matter and you need to be precise in order to be well informed.

 

Your temps seems normal tough, even when idle and even if not overclocked. I7 is a pretty hot CPU, and Intel heatsink is a pretty bad one. When your CPU stop processing, the temps stay high for a long time with this sh$t.

You may want to have a real heatsink (Noctua 1366, Thermalright Ultra-120) to feel more comfortable or to be able to OC your CPU to a 900$ CPU... :whistle:

 

...whatever... read guide or OC website man !

 

ps: new i7920 D0 are very much cooler. And they can function with very low voltage (like 1Volt for Vcore for stock Clock Speed !). Why didn't they sold it when I bought mine. Damn ! :wacko:

 

 

nicos

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First of all I'd like to say thanks for the script and all the work you've put into it. It worked outright the first time although I wasn't aware that it had.

 

First problems I had was completely unrelated to OSX86 just a faulty mobo that resulted in me putting my computer together 3 times.

 

I didn't want to download kalyway if I could avoid it so I tried to use the script from my non-intel 1.8 GHz G5 tower. My 10.5 Leopard DVD wouldn't let me install onto a GUID partition map since I was running non-intel hardware so I did some reading I discovered intel computers were able to boot from APM partition maps. When I tried the install from the APM map though I didn't even reach the boot screen.

 

Eventually after doing some thinking I decided to clone (using Carbon Copy Cloner) my Mac OS X from the G5 hard drive onto a GUID partition map hard drive. That worked like a charm and I got the apple boot screen coming up. It failed to boot though so I went back into the script and set it to -v. Did heaps more reading trying heaps more things playing around with kexts when I accidently stumbled onto a solution. Because this was my first time I had no idea that my bios needed to be set to AHCI for it to boot but that fixed the problem and got everything booting great.

 

So now I was booting from my old 2nd G5 hard drive and ready to install onto my new HDs in my hackintosh or so I thought. Because CCC was taking so long to do the clone I'd thought I'd save time by only cloning the bare minimum necessary but I'd left out applications like terminal and disk utility so I had to swap my old 2nd hard drive back into the G5 a few times till i'd got all the applications I needed.

 

Now I tried to use a raid setup but had heaps of trouble trying to figure out how to get it to work. First thing I tried was raid using ICH10 controller but it wasn't recognisable on my hackintosh running 10.5.7. I even tried the LegacyAppleAHCIPort.kext from the Ex58-UD5 kext download but couldn't get it to work. So then I tried setting up a software raid through disk utility but the script was unable to mount the drive and I couldn't install anything onto the raid. I solved the problem by using the Gigabyte controller for my hardware raid (white sata ports). I actually created my raid using the ICH10 system since that allowed me to set my block size which was a bit nicer then moved it across to the correct ports. OS X recognised it fine and I was able to install everything onto my raid without any hitches. I did make sure to format the raid as HFS+ with a GUID partition map.

 

I've now added a 2nd NTFS partition to my Raid but have been unable to complete a windows xp install on it. I got past the blue screen part but after that my Raid won't boot so I'm unable to undertake the second part of the windows installation. I can make the Raid bootable again by using the script to set the drive as the active boot drive in the bios but I still can't get it to complete the installation. If set quiet boot mode to "No" (which by the way took me some time to work out) and then select the windows partition I just end up with a flashing text cursor and am still unable to finish the windows installation.

 

Btw for anyone interested when I was playing around with overclock settings on windows I was getting 3.8GHz (181x21 with Turbo Boost) with 65°C max temperature on my hottest core under full load. Initially I was getting 85°C but then I noticed my Vcore was around 1.35V from the auto setting in the bios so I changed to a manual setting of 1.20V and that worked fine with a blended prime95 stress test for about 1 hour. Haven't finished setting up my overclock settings yet but I'll report back when I find what I settle with.

 

For anyone interested my hardware is

Gigabyte Ex58-UD5 with F7 bios update

Core i7 920 D0

Scythe Mugen 2 with default fan (1 only)

1600MHz Corsair RAM with C8 timings (not the dominator stuff but good enough)

HIS 4890 ATI Graphics Card

2x Raid0 WD Caviar Black Hard Drives

Corsair 850W PSU (Originally had Zalman ZM850 which I thought was better but mistakenly got a refund when Mobo was to blame)

ASUS WL-138G-V2 Wireless Card

Pioneer DVD Burner

Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570S Case

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Does this also happen with other drives?
I just plugged in my LaCie Quadra (button) hard drive via FW400 and it mounted just fine. Since you have a issue with USB, too, I'm curious if you have the proper System.kext in S/L/E. You can use System Profiler to see what version your System.kext is: System/Software/Extentions/System. You may have installed the Voodoo version at some time.
solved the problem since it detects everything. thanks :thumbsup_anim:

 

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Hi, fairly new at all this and am having some problems, everything seems to be working well, followed all the instructions and installed OSX on a second disc then updated to 10.5.7 and applied netkas' package for ATI 4850package for ATI 4850

 

when I boot into the new install the chameleon logo shows up it says loading darwin then the apple logo appears and then the screen goes blank after about 20 seconds and then loses signal. The computer is still on and key presses produce OSX sounds. I can only assume it has loaded but the video drivers are wrong. is there a way to correct this? or have I done something wrong? is there a way to load in verbose mode so i can se at what point it is failing?

 

Thanks

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I did the install outlined in this post and had everything working great on my EX58-UD3R with an i7 920 (Chameleon 2.0 RC1). However, when I did the 10.5.7 update, now I'm getting a kernel panic when I boot (even in safe mode). I'm sure it's a kernel issue. I did have the vanilla 9.5.7 kernel loaded before doing the update and everything was working great.

 

Any quick ideas? I'll keep digging on the forum, but thought this was a good place to start.

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I did the install outlined in this post and had everything working great on my EX58-UD3R with an i7 920 (Chameleon 2.0 RC1). However, when I did the 10.5.7 update, now I'm getting a kernel panic when I boot (even in safe mode). I'm sure it's a kernel issue. I did have the vanilla 9.5.7 kernel loaded before doing the update and everything was working great.

 

Any quick ideas? I'll keep digging on the forum, but thought this was a good place to start.

 

Reload the kexts but leave out the three for audio (audio doesn't work in any event).

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I did the install outlined in this post and had everything working great on my EX58-UD3R with an i7 920 (Chameleon 2.0 RC1). However, when I did the 10.5.7 update, now I'm getting a kernel panic when I boot (even in safe mode). I'm sure it's a kernel issue. I did have the vanilla 9.5.7 kernel loaded before doing the update and everything was working great.

 

Any quick ideas? I'll keep digging on the forum, but thought this was a good place to start.

 

While your machine is started from another drive, remove System.kext from the /Extra/Stored_kexts folder. Then use the DD script to update your boot cache.

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I have had a hackintosh machine that I built myself using the efix dongle for about 6 months. Right now I am using a EP45-DS3R with a 2.5 Quad-core processor.

 

I have been looking into building a core i7 machine (started a cart on newegg already), and since I will not be able to use the efix dongle on this new board, will I be able to use my present hard drive which is running a retail version of 10.5.7? or must I do the installation from scratch?

 

I went to the beginning of this topic and read some of the instructions, and honestly to god ... it was a bit confusing. I didnt know where to even begin considerring where am starting. Maybe I will get some better clarification as time goes.

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I have had a hackintosh machine that I built myself using the efix dongle for about 6 months. Right now I am using a EP45-DS3R with a 2.5 Quad-core processor.

 

I have been looking into building a core i7 machine (started a cart on newegg already), and since I will not be able to use the efix dongle on this new board, will I be able to use my present hard drive which is running a retail version of 10.5.7? or must I do the installation from scratch?

 

You can use DD's v3.6 installer script to update your drive to boot an core i7 machine although once you do so you will not be able boot you old machine with it. I'm not sure if that was a requirement or not.

 

Anyway, that being said, it is my recommendation that you do a clean install following my instructions on page 69 which outlines all the steps necessary including how to use the migration assistant to move your data from the old drive to the the new. It's more work but it's going to be a lot safer plus you'll learn a few things in the process.

 

Good luck.

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