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Apple today launched a shot across Microsoft’s bow with Boot Camp, the beta version of its solution to let Mac users boot Windows on their Macintels. While at first I thought I could see Steve Ballmer throwing a chair across the room at the news, I realized that with Apple’s semi-cozy relationship with Microsoft, this news isn’t likely to be a surprise to any of the major players. (There have been rumors in the past of a tacit OS agreement between the two companies) As Apple continues to regain market share against PCs, I doubt they want to risk an all-out war with Windows.

 

But why should there be a conflict anyway? Microsoft ships more units of XP and, at some unforeseen date, Vista. Apple picks up new customers who would love to move a Mac but can’t leave Windows behind for various reasons. It seems like a win-win situation for all.

 

Apple’s move also answers those who continue to ask why anyone would want Windows on their Mac. Why? Because it’s possible. Because, for the corporate environment, it makes business sense. And because now it’s simple.

 

But there are larger implications for the announcement of Boot Camp. The largest is that it marks Apple’s first true strategic use of the switch to Intel. EFI was a smart move and the speed benefits are obviously nice, but the ability to dual boot Windows (and - likely - use it within OS X in Leopard via virtualization) is probably the trump card Apple was waiting to use. If they can get PC users to buy a Mac to use both operating systems, they’re betting that eventually those “switchers” will rely solely on OS X. But even if they don’t, another Mac has been sold.

 

Should Microsoft be concerned? Maybe. But in the mean time, I have the feeling it’ll be a lot more acceptable to be toting a MacBook Pro around Redmond.

 

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But there are larger implications for the announcement of Boot Camp. The largest is that it marks Apple’s first true strategic use of the switch to Intel. EFI was a smart move and the speed benefits are obviously nice, but the ability to dual boot Windows (and - likely - use it within OS X in Leopard via virtualization) is probably the trump card Apple was waiting to use.

 

This is exactly why the OSx86 community needs to get moving on EFI as well. I have been making the case for this in the "drivers" subforum:

 

http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=13493

 

EFI and BIOS
Macs use an ultra-modern industry standard technology called EFI to handle booting. Sadly, Windows XP, and even the upcoming Vista, are stuck in the 1980s with old-fashioned BIOS. But with Boot Camp, the Mac can operate smoothly in both centuries.

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

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Does anybody realise that Windows XP took the *conceptual* place of Classic on MacOS X?

 

This is true, if you get an eye on the pdf depicting the new XP's Startup Disk feature, you'll get the same feeling that I had.

 

THE MACOS X CAN RUN A LEGACY OS AGAIN, and that one, my friends is no less than his handiccaped stepbrother Windows XP!!

 

Ultimately the Backwards Compatibility Feat was won by >ironically< Apple.

 

Who'd want a Game made for Classic if they were all made for Windows?

:gathering::P :P :P :P :P

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They just can't. The Firmware Update already does the Job. The fact that you can make the partition by hand confirms the stuff. A pirated bootloader can be written and rogue drivers can be found.

 

BTW they said it will become de-facto on Leopard.

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you can pirate OS X and make your own drivers for it as well, but you dont see that stopping them from charging you!! haha

 

but the fact that it will be used in leopard i didn't know. thats cool I guess they're just using the public as guinea pigs for now!!

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Now that Apple has done this, I have to wonder if there is anything preventing Microsoft (or Intel, or even a big OEM) from doing the same in the opposite direction. Granted, it would more challenging technically, but would Apple be able to stop them?

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Now that Apple has done this, I have to wonder if there is anything preventing Microsoft (or Intel, or even a big OEM) from doing the same in the opposite direction.

Yes, common sense, as Microsoft has no interest in people running anything but Windows. Apple is in a different situation, whereas it is a Windows "world" and Apple has to adapt to live in it.

 

Granted, it would more challenging technically, but would Apple be able to stop them?

Of course, running OS X on anything but Apple hardware is a violation of Apple's EULA and to make it work one must violate the DMCA. Again, this is a completely different situation.

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hi everyone.

 

sorry for the newbie question but on the pr apple states that boot camp is "preview software licensed for use on a trial basis for a limited time...". i just downloaded it and will order a macbook pro soon to run windows xp pro on it. will the whole install become invalid/expire or the dual-boot option disappear after the trial period set by apple? i just don't wanna buy a macbook pro and install windows and do work on it and then end up not being able to access it is all. love everything about the mac but need the critical windows apps. osx just isn't practical in a business environment (but it sure does turn heads though).

 

thanx!

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Does anyone know if *ALL* of the drivers are supplied? One for the iChat av camera, or whatever it is called, for example?

 

 

iSight, Apple RemoteApple, USB modem, key board backlighting on the MacBook Pro among other things are not supported yet

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This dual booting news is just amazing. Today was the first I heard of Boot Camp, but I have some novice questions. First, has anybody tried it out and if so, have you tried playing Half-life 2? I really don't care if the other games work, just as long as I can play HL2 natively. Second, I've heard people saying VMWare, WINE, or DARWINE works better than trying to dual boot. Are these visualizers, or something else? One person said you can play games with 3D acceleration through these visualizers, or whatever they are. Is this true? Could I play any Windows game using WINE and not have to boot out of osx and into xp? Sorry, I'm sure these questions have been answered before, but please bear with me.

 

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Looks a lot like I was right on March 17 - http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?showtopic=12236&hl=

 

What I think it means now? I'm not an OS programmer, but here's what I think would be the best choice for Apple given where they are now. Providing virtualisation for Windows from within OSX without the need for a windowed system (like the Darwine project). This would really put Windows under pressure in the upscale PC market. But didn't Steve Jobs rightly say that the race for the standard OS is over?

 

Maybe some people are already working on a OSX-implementation with a Windows NT Kernel. This would also put the "yellow box" rumours about a running OSX programmes on Windows in a different context.

 

Oh man, how many bschool case studies will be written about this?

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It is interesting that this came out AFTER someone else created an EFI hack and dual booted windows on to the MAc and hacked drivers started to appear, They probably thought about charging for it, but now since someone can do it for free, they decided to make it easier!! way to go Jobs!

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I think the biggest benefit is not having to buy two computers now. You can buy a Mac and if you absolutely need Windows for something, then no problem. Microsoft isn't in a bad position at all....they will still be selling licences for Windows. It's Dell, HP, Toshiba, etc. that have to worry. Apple's planning has been perfect. There is absolutely no reason to not switch anymore.

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Is there a way to make XP home edition work with dual processors?

As far as I know, no, but the CoreDuo processor is definitely supported by XP Home, just not the "real" dual processors (with two seperate CPUs)

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if they were smart, they would make a sweet knockoff of wine like transgaming does with winex or cedega, then people could run many applications natively from within osx

 

Why?

 

We're talking a pretty hefty project and lots of $$ to get it accomplished here... Its not worth Apple's time and I'd rather have the speed of native compared to any other option.

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This is What i was afraid of !!!

 

Wednesday, 5 April 2006

First Blue Screen of Death on a Mac

Topic: Hardware

 

bluscreenimac.jpg

 

On the DealCatcher forums, Dan Baxter writes: "So I decided to install the new Apple Boot Camp Beta to dual boot Windows XP on my Mac. Everything went great then I got this after using it for about an 30 mins."

 

And here's another one:

 

blue2.jpg

 

Source : Click Here

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