mitch_de Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Thanks a lot. Checking sourcecode now.. If you have time to test, please come on IRC. This is the last remaining issue before we go into beta so want to fix this soon. Speedstep Problem with A11 kernel (vanillakernel + 1.3.2.kext speedstep ok) and C2D E4400. IntelEnhancedSpeedStep: INFO Initializing version 1.3.2 © Prashant Vaibhav IntelEnhancedSpeedStep: INFO Loaded 4 PStates from Info.plist IntelEnhancedSpeedStep: INFO On your processor, voltages can be changed in 16 mV steps ..kern.cputhrottle_curfreq: 2400 kern.cputhrottle_curvolt: 1340 kern.cputhrottle_freqs: 1440 1680 2160 2400 kern.cputhrottle_factoryvolts: 940 1020 1164 1324 kern.cputhrottle_ctl: 2600 Thats ALL OK (of the 1.3.2 .kext + A11 kernel) But: 1. The speedstep app only shows one,= 2400=highest MHZ, not all 4 Pstates. So no throttling available(only one PSTATE) in the app. 2. The sysctl - a gives: hw.cpufrequency_max: 2400000000 hw.cpufrequency_min: 2400000000 // is that the problem, min=max ? hw.cpufrequency: 2400000000 hw.busfrequency_max: 960000000 hw.busfrequency_min: 960000000 hw.busfrequency: 960000000 Question (because vanilla + 1.3.2 works): What information does speedstep.app use, the from the .kext (kern.cputhottle,...) or some other ? " Who/What generates this hw.cpufrqauenzy.... infos, kernel or EFI/AppleSMBIOSEFI.kext(i use Chuans) or other .kext ? Thanks for getting educated in osx backgrounds ! Thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-903659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurysquad Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 SpeedStep apps are broken, don't rely on them. The kext is correct. Try changing pstate using sudo sysctl -w kern.cputhrottle_curfreq=2160 or similar. The hw.maxfrequency and minfrequency will the same, that's not a problem. It's not used for anything so I have not bothered to fix it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-903677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch_de Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 SpeedStep apps are broken, don't rely on them. The kext is correct. Try changing pstate using sudo sysctl -w kern.cputhrottle_curfreq=2160 or similar. The hw.maxfrequency and minfrequency will the same, that's not a problem. It's not used for anything so I have not bothered to fix it. OK, thanks. I am a desktop user and switch manual to slow MHZ and back to full is the only thing i want. The autotrotthling or using speedstep is , my opinion, not really the thing (at least for desktops) because of using CPU% for that autotrottling 8wakes of CPu from IDLE). I will use that sysctl mode and will make an app which switches (manual) to the pstates and shows pstates info. (app Takes 1-2 days) bash-3.2# sysctl -w kern.cputhrottle_curfreq=1440 kern.cputhrottle_curfreq: 2400 -> 1440 WORKED! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-903700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurysquad Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 After the kernel is done, I'll add auto-throttle to my speed step kext. (also amd support later). AMD Athlon users -- can you please confirm alpha 11 works perfectly on your system without any bootflags? I need to make sure before I proceed to fix Phenom issues. Thanks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-903717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar4er Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Without the Boot flags, slowing GUI and sound like with -Athlon From the bootflag -athlon: sometimes stutter sound and slowing GUI. On the bootflag fsb = 200: no load and writes: rtc_init: Taking bus ratio path (Boot-time argument) TSC: Fregency = 17841.388946MHz bus fregency = 0.0200 MHz multiplier = 89221944.5 Local APIC version non 0x14 expected With the bootflag busratio = 10.5 - the system slows down. With the bootflag fsb = 200000000 - much faster. L2 cache is displayed correctly (1Mb). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-903934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
furkanmustafa Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 my cpu is t2330 1.6ghz i am using it, but its able to boot random (1/2 times i try). when it boots, its ok and faster (than toh 9.2.0). crashing. but i havent used fsb/busratio yet. because i dont know what to set? my fsb is 533 mhz? then my ratio should be 3. But 533 ? It is the fsb that which we are talking about ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick14 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I installedf JaS 10.5.4 and i choosed a StageXNU kernel when i booted in to the partition and added the voodoo_beta1 to the HDD and rebooted i got a Kernel Panic i got an Pentium M 1.6ghz Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris928cn Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 alpha 11 works better now on my athlon sse2 system without any bootflags,DVD PLayer also cause the system freeze up Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastowl Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 alpha 9 didn't load on my nforce 780i board just waiting for root device but vodoo 9.4 did work but crashed but will try 11 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauℓzurrr. Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Just tested alpha11 on my system and everything works great, no need to use busratio=13 anymore Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamsalac Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Well I Could test it! iDeneb v1.3 10.5.5 AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz 512MB RAM DDR-400 ATI X700 PRO 256MB RAM OEM HP MSI mainboard with SB450 chipset Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurysquad Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 i am using it, but its able to boot random (1/2 times i try). when it boots, its ok and faster (than toh 9.2.0). crashing. Your FSB is 133000000. Thanks for testing but it doesn't help us to just hear 'it boots 1/2 times i try'. What happens in the other half? You get a message? Kernel panic? If yes, post a screenshot or a log or at least the last few lines of the log when it crashes. <rant snipped> I installedf JaS 10.5.4 and i choosed a StageXNU kernel when i booted in to the partition and added the voodoo_beta1 to the HDD and rebooted i got a Kernel Panic i got an Pentium M 1.6ghz Hi, we are testing alpha 11 and later now, we're not looking for bug reports with the old 9.4 beta. Well I Could test it! iDeneb v1.3 10.5.5 AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz 512MB RAM DDR-400 ATI X700 PRO 256MB RAM OEM HP MSI mainboard with SB450 chipset Great, so grab the latest alpha and start! alpha 11 works better now on my athlon sse2 system without any bootflags,DVD PLayer also cause the system freeze up DVD player uses a lot of SSE3 instructions, and we have done extensive inhouse testing. It's mostly stable now but there can still be certain systems where it's unstable. We have some solutions to this and the fixes will be available in the final kernel. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick14 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Hi, we are testing alpha 11 and later now, we're not looking for bug reports with the old 9.4 beta. I tried the Alpha 2 and i got Kernel panic but is there a way to fix it ?? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurysquad Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 Without the Boot flags, slowing GUI and sound like with -AthlonFrom the bootflag -athlon: sometimes stutter sound and slowing GUI. On the bootflag fsb = 200: no load and writes: rtc_init: Taking bus ratio path (Boot-time argument) TSC: Fregency = 17841.388946MHz bus fregency = 0.0200 MHz multiplier = 89221944.5 Local APIC version non 0x14 expected With the bootflag busratio = 10.5 - the system slows down. With the bootflag fsb = 200000000 - much faster. L2 cache is displayed correctly (1Mb). Hi could you please post your cpu MSR value (check 9.5 project page for link/info - there is a kext download on google code). There was a silly mistake in fsb= option, so it takes values in Hz not MHz. Can you also please boot with only -v and note which path it takes and the tsc freq etc.? You should be able to find the log report either by typing sudo dmesg just after booting or look in Console utility. Also the log for -athlon option will be useful. Thanks. I tried the Alpha 2 and i got Kernel panic but is there a way to fix it ?? Um there is no alpha 2, the alphas were numbered starting from 7, current one is 11. Can you please post what the kernel panic says? A screenshot would be ideal. A little more info about the CPU you are running it on is also helpful. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauℓzurrr. Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 http://www.infinitemac.com/f36/mercurysqua...ure-help-t1370/ Well if that doesn't help the project, then i dont know what will... ~p-J Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick14 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Hi could you please post your cpu MSR value (check 9.5 project page for link/info - there is a kext download on google code). There was a silly mistake in fsb= option, so it takes values in Hz not MHz. Can you also please boot with only -v and note which path it takes and the tsc freq etc.? You should be able to find the log report either by typing sudo dmesg just after booting or look in Console utility. Also the log for -athlon option will be useful. Thanks. Um there is no alpha 2, the alphas were numbered starting from 7, current one is 11. Can you please post what the kernel panic says? A screenshot would be ideal. A little more info about the CPU you are running it on is also helpful. well the one you released On the first realese but why does it make StageXNU kernel to panic ?? even when i dont pick the kernel Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurysquad Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 http://www.infinitemac.com/f36/mercurysqua...ure-help-t1370/ Well if that doesn't help the project, then i dont know what will... ~p-J Hey thanks a lot. Hopefully that prompts more AMD people to report success or failure, and proper logs/system info, symptoms etc. in case of failure. AMD timing problem is the last remaining issue before we can go into public beta. well the one you released On the first realese but why does it make StageXNU kernel to panic ?? even when i dont pick the kernel Because you probably accidentally overwrote your stagexnu kernel. When you get the kernel panic, look at the LAST line. Does it say "StageXNU" or does it say "Voodoo" ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar4er Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 ---------- CPUID START ---------- CPUID: Basic Leaves: CPUID: 00000000: eax = 00000001, ebx = 68747541, ecx = 444d4163, edx = 69746e65 CPUID: 00000001: eax = 00060fb1, ebx = 00020800, ecx = 00002001, edx = 178bfbff CPUID: 00000002: eax = 00000000, ebx = 00000000, ecx = 00000000, edx = 00000000 CPUID: 00000003: eax = 00000000, ebx = 00000000, ecx = 00000000, edx = 00000000 CPUID: 00000004: eax = 00000000, ebx = 00000000, ecx = 00000000, edx = 00000000 CPUID: Extended leaves: CPUID: 80000000: eax = 80000018, ebx = 68747541, ecx = 444d4163, edx = 69746e65 CPUID: 80000001: eax = 00060fb1, ebx = 000008cf, ecx = 0000011f, edx = ebd3fbff CPUID: 80000002: eax = 20444d41, ebx = 6c687441, ecx = 74286e6f, edx = 3620296d CPUID: 80000003: eax = 32582034, ebx = 61754420, ecx = 6f43206c, edx = 50206572 CPUID: 80000004: eax = 65636f72, ebx = 726f7373, ecx = 30303420, edx = 00002b30 CPUID: MSR : 0x80d020d ----------- CPUID END ----------- Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick14 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 XNU with both boot Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurysquad Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 ---------- CPUID START ---------- CPUID: MSR : 0x80d020d ----------- CPUID END ----------- Thanks! But I'll also need to know your real cpu freq and fsb freq. For anyone else who wants to understand what this msr value is -- It contains your cpu's fsb multiplier encoded in it. This is how the kernel calculates your cpu speed, and initializes the system clock. What I want to do is to verify that the cpu is reporting the proper multiplier and that there are no bugs in the kernel code - because the docs are not always right. And so I also need your real cpu freq and fsb freq to compare against. If they match then there should be no audio stutter or slowdown, and that is why I also ask everyone to report whether they are experiencing problems or not. Note that you can run this kext on ANY kernel and report your msr/cpufreq/fsbfreq! But report timing/gui/audio problem only when on voodoo kernel. I will shortly put up a version for AMD Phenoms too. The current one is for Athlons. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
viiddee Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe CPU: ATHLON X2 4600+ (2400 Mhz) FSB: 200 Mhz boot flag: -athlon CPUID: MSR : 0xc100210 -------------------------------------------- Asus A8N-E CPU: ATHLON 64 3200+ (2000 Mhz) FSB: 200 Mhz boot flag: - CPUID: MSR : 0x40c0c0c Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar4er Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 My real FSB = 200MGz, multiplier = 10.5, processor = 2100MGz Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercurysquad Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 Thanks a lot guys. Above 2 posts show exactly the kind of concise info I need Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAIBA Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 So what will be noticeable differences between the alpha 11 kernel and the beta 1 kernel? Also what will be incorporated/improved on in future kernels? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipo Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Great job on alpha11 released kernel. No more need bootflag option for me... installed 10.5.5 system kexts too. I didn't tested dvd player but all the rest works great. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/126896-private-alpha-test-of-voodoo-95-kernel/page/4/#findComment-904646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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