max_raid Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Howdy folks. I just rebuilt my machine using your 10.5.4 guide, Weaksauce. Thanks a ton for making it so comprehensive to a newbie hackintosh guy like me. Without reading the fifty or so proceeding pages, can I utilize the Boot123/Retail Leopard method in some manner after having installed OS X 10.5.4 using Kalyway? If not, is there a way to perform a Time Machine backup and then install OS X retail using Boot123 and save all my applications/installation configurations? Basically, if I wanted to use the new installation method, do I need to reformat and start over? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Howdy folks. I just rebuilt my machine using your 10.5.4 guide, Weaksauce. Thanks a ton for making it so comprehensive to a newbie hackintosh guy like me. Without reading the fifty or so proceeding pages, can I utilize the Boot123/Retail Leopard method in some manner after having installed OS X 10.5.4 using Kalyway? If not, is there a way to perform a Time Machine backup and then install OS X retail using Boot123 and save all my applications/installation configurations? Basically, if I wanted to use the new installation method, do I need to reformat and start over? Thanks in advance! You will need to reformat and start over. You cannot upgrade from a Kalyway installation to a BOOT-132 installation because the BOOT-132 installation uses a Retail Leopard Disc, not a Kalyway disc. You cannot restore a Time Machine backup because it will copy all of the Kalyway stuff over, mix with your Retail install, and screw things up. ETA on new guide is Saturday, November 29th, 2008 - Thanksgiving weekend. So about a week and a half away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threepwood Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 AppleDecrypt.kext - I suppose this is a replacement for dsmos.kext? Is it meant to co-exist with Dont Steal Mac OS.kext (which I suspect is part of a retail install)? To update my Kalyway install to 10.5.5, can I just install the CPU management disabler kext from your package and go for it? I use the EFI method and not an injector for video, could my system still be bricked by new video kexts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Hot Deal: $34.99 MIGLIA TECH HA02 HarmonyAudio Firewire Sound Card http://www.amazon.com/Miglia-HA02-MIGLIA-T.../dp/B0009F217Q/ $35 bucks for an awesome Firewire sound card. This card sells for $325 at MacMall: http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail...urce=mwbfroogle It will be here next week and I'll do a mini-review. Great if you need an inexpensive yet powerful sound card! Just be sure to get a Firewire card for your DS3L! You can also buy these on eBay from seller "cotoblue" for $35 shipped, which is useful if you don't want to pay tax and if you want to use that Microsoft Live Cashback promotion for 25% off. Manufacturer Page Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 AppleDecrypt.kext - I suppose this is a replacement for dsmos.kext? Is it meant to co-exist with Dont Steal Mac OS.kext (which I suspect is part of a retail install)? To update my Kalyway install to 10.5.5, can I just install the CPU management disabler kext from your package and go for it? I use the EFI method and not an injector for video, could my system still be bricked by new video kexts? Yes, correct. This is where the magic happens - it decrypts the encryption on the fly. It's simply the latest version in a line of decryption tools. You could certainly try upgrading your Kalyway install (as always, have a backup), but you may find your effort better invested in simply doing a full re-installation. The guide is scheduled for released Thanksgiving weekend and will be pretty dang easy to follow (much more so than Kalyway), so I'd suggestion backing up your data, finding your software discs, and getting ready for a re-install Again I won't be supporting Kalyway after 10.5.5 (just need to update the guide here when I have some time), so if you want 10.5.6 with the "easy button" method, you'll want to switch over to BOOT-132. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threepwood Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Yes, correct. This is where the magic happens - it decrypts the encryption on the fly. It's simply the latest version in a line of decryption tools. You could certainly try upgrading your Kalyway install (as always, have a backup), but you may find your effort better invested in simply doing a full re-installation. The guide is scheduled for released Thanksgiving weekend and will be pretty dang easy to follow (much more so than Kalyway), so I'd suggestion backing up your data, finding your software discs, and getting ready for a re-install Again I won't be supporting Kalyway after 10.5.5 (just need to update the guide here when I have some time), so if you want 10.5.6 with the "easy button" method, you'll want to switch over to BOOT-132. My system works really well, so I'm hesitant about re-installing. Not because I don't think it's a better solution, it's just that I have everything installed and set up. If it's just a matter of installing new kexts (and removing the shutdown script) I think I'll try that first. But I'll definitely give this method a shot on a seperate drive, just to see how it works! I have a 256MB USB stick ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Hey guys, I'm programming a custom 1 click installer for weaksauce based on the powerful OSx86 Tools installation engine. It will be able to install kexts, kernel, DSDT, you name it plus it can patch com.apple.Boot.plist with resolution, time out, EFI strings, and more. And the coolest part is that you can add your own kext packages and motherboards, EFI strings, and all that to the app! Just make a folder for your motherboard with the files in it, drop it into the tool's Motherboards folder and then watch it fly I am going to start the work on this as soon as weaksauce12 gets back to me with some sample files. Programming shouldn't take too long because I basically copy and paste code from OSx86 Tools for the most part, but the hardest part is getting the motherboard selector in place and functional. ETA maybe 2-3 weeks, possibly sooner. Will keep everyone updated ~pcwiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 My system works really well, so I'm hesitant about re-installing. Not because I don't think it's a better solution, it's just that I have everything installed and set up. If it's just a matter of installing new kexts (and removing the shutdown script) I think I'll try that first. But I'll definitely give this method a shot on a seperate drive, just to see how it works! I have a 256MB USB stick ready. Yeah, definitely if you have a separate hard drive to test it on, give it a shot! USB stick no longer required! The most effort on your part is simply burning a BootCD from an ISO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenkenc Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Quick question, will this matter if I have the DS3R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdWrench Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Weaksauce12... Thank you both for your guide and help. My first foray into 10.5 installs used netkas's boot132 method. Works, but I spent a lot of time patching manually. I tried the method you posted to your new blog. Much better - thank you! I am having a problem with sleeping, though. When I try to sleep, the screen goes blank immediately, the hard drives stop, but the machine stays on. (unlike shutdown) The DVD access LED blinks every few seconds. After about one or two minutes, the machine finally powers down. Pressing the power button while this happens does nothing. UPDATE: Removing the DVD makes no difference. I have the problem even with no SATA device other than the hard drive. After the fans stop, pressing the power button brings everything back in an instant. The mouse moves; you can move windows, but if you try to do anything serious (maybe anything that requires disk access?), the beach ball shows up. Eventually Finder locks. All you can see is a periodic blip of the hard disk LED. The only way out at this point is to power off & restart. Hardware: Mobo: EP35-DS3L, F5 BIOS CPU: E7200 @ 2.53GHz RAM: 2GB PC2-6400 (800MHz) Video: EVGA 8600GT 256MB HD: Seagate 500GB 7200.11 SATA II DVD: LG Super Multi DVD Rewriter (GH20NS15) SATA Any help or ideas. if the guide everyone's talking about is not the one you've posted to your blog site, could you please send me a copy? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 Quick question, will this matter if I have the DS3R? Yes it does matter, the DS3L system won't work on it. However, you can easily modify it. You will need 2 things: 1. Custom DSDT dump (dsdt.aml) 2. Drivers specific to your board (kext files) Then you can follow the guide from there. I may add optional support for that board if you want to get together sometime and hash out the dsdt and kext files. Weaksauce12... Thank you both for your guide and help. My first foray into 10.5 installs used netkas's boot132 method. Works, but I spent a lot of time patching manually. I tried the method you posted to your new blog. Much better - thank you! I am having a problem with sleeping, though. When I try to sleep, the screen goes blank immediately, the hard drives stop, but the machine stays on. (unlike shutdown) Yup I have this too (I'm running the same guide revision you are). I believe this is because of the IDE driver. I've updated the IDE driver with a newer one and it seems to be working. Download this: http://darwin-ata.googlecode.com/files/JMicronATA.kext.zip Remove the legacyjmicron.kext (Extensions folder), delete extensions.mkext (Library folder), and try this one using Kext Helper (reboot after installation). See if it works for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdWrench Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Yup I have this too (I'm running the same guide revision you are). I believe this is because of the IDE driver. I've updated the IDE driver with a newer one and it seems to be working. Download this: http://darwin-ata.googlecode.com/files/JMicronATA.kext.zip Remove the legacyjmicron.kext (Extensions folder), delete extensions.mkext (Library folder), and try this one using Kext Helper (reboot after installation). See if it works for you. Thanks, I'll try this when I get home tonight. And while we're on the topic of installing kexts, have you tried installing these into the /Extra/Extensions folder instead of putting them in the /System/Library/Extensions? That seems to be one of the big plusses of using Chameleon - avoiding conflicts with Apple updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 Thanks, I'll try this when I get home tonight. And while we're on the topic of installing kexts, have you tried installing these into the /Extra/Extensions folder instead of putting them in the /System/Library/Extensions? That seems to be one of the big plusses of using Chameleon - avoiding conflicts with Apple updates. The kexts I use are either non-standard or tagged with "legacy", so none of them get overwritten during Apple updates. I'm still debating several areas of the final release, however...for example, if you wanted to migrate your Hackintosh installation to a real Mac, it would be worthwhile to have the kexts in Extras because they wouldn't be used in the migration because Chameleon doesn't get copied over. Still tinkering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdWrench Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I'm still debating several areas of the final release, however... Still tinkering... I'll throw my two cents in: one benefit I've found of using the Extra folder is that you can experiment rather easily with adding & removing kexts. You could do that with OSX tools, but it's so clear just by being in the /Extra folder. It also makes it easier to change motherboards, again because you can readily clearly identify what you've changed. (OK, at least the non-audio kexts.) I really like the organization of the changes needed for this system. I've got a Kalyway 10.5.2 installation on a Dell Inspiron 530 and I'm thinking how to put a similar toolkit together. Or how to organize this kit's directory structure to add other platforms. A reinstall looks more sensible than getting over the 10.5.3 hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdWrench Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Yup I have this too (I'm running the same guide revision you are). I believe this is because of the IDE driver. I've updated the IDE driver with a newer one and it seems to be working. Download this: http://darwin-ata.googlecode.com/files/JMicronATA.kext.zip Remove the legacyjmicron.kext (Extensions folder), delete extensions.mkext (Library folder), and try this one using Kext Helper (reboot after installation). See if it works for you. Oh such hopes... I removed the LegacyJMicron.kext, removed extensions.mkext and installed the new jmicron.kext using kext helper. Alas, no difference. When I sleep, the DVD LED blinks 5 times, pauses 5-8 seconds, blinks another 5 times. This repeats several times. After 3 mins the disks stopped & the fans went off. ((Last time, I recall that the drives stopped immediately. (The disks attached to the motherboard shut off immediately. I have another disk powered, but not connected and that didn't power off until sleep killed all power. The OSX disk, however, did power down immediately.) When starting, I got a screen, but couldn't start anything. I'll try playing around some more & do the usual permissions repair, but these didn't help before. Update: I reinstalled all the kexts and repaired permissions, but that didn't fix the problem. I was able to return from sleep once, but on all subsequent tries, it failed, requiring a reboot. At this point, I just don't have any reliable sleep. Any other ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzTambo Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I believe it's a per-application setting, like if you use VLC you have to tell it to use 5.1. I just use headphones and crappy Logitech speakers hehe. I'll dig up some more info on this for you... Thanks! That's odd, you shouldn't have any sleeping problems. If you can, get your machine prepped to upgrade to my BOOT-132 guide coming out this month. Sleep/Restart/Boot works even better on it! You will need a geniune Leopard DVD. This is a full Retail install - basically you can go down to an Apple Store, buy a copy of Leopard, and install it on your machine straight up Also, it looks like I am dropping IDE support. People are getting kernel panics and all the other weird bugs again. I'll include it as an experimental kext if people want to try it, however. **************************************** Hot Deal: 1.5TB Seagate for $139 shipped http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148337 Hey weaksauce12 Your guide is amazing... I built one machine based on ya guide months ago thing is flawless and way better than the iBook G4 ... and it was super cheap.. I can not wait for your New Boot 123 guide... Just one question.. I have a P35 DS3L waiting for the guide .. Do you know if anybody has installed over ESXi... I am currently running a Vista and XP in virtual machines and was wondering if you thought I could load 10.5 on a separate instance... Just an idea... or would it be better just throwing it on a seperate drive.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0bs Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Hi, Is Radeon 3850 supported with the Boot 132 install method OTB? This card has the annoying white menu problem with some drivers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0bs Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Hi,Is Radeon 3850 supported with the Boot 132 install method OTB? This card has the annoying white menu problem with some drivers... I guess it's not... I just installed Leopard following the guide, and chose the Gfx String for the closest card in the list, ATI 3850 512MB. After reboot, the OS doesn't start normally, but enters into a reboot cycle. My video card is Asus EAH3850/G/HTDI/512M. Any help will be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes123 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi, Weaksauce... can i use your pack on a GA-P35-DS3? I use the latest Bios .f14 Kext - all the same? Boot123 ? DSDT - useless? Thx ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 I guess it's not... I just installed Leopard following the guide, and chose the Gfx String for the closest card in the list, ATI 3850 512MB. After reboot, the OS doesn't start normally, but enters into a reboot cycle. My video card is Asus EAH3850/G/HTDI/512M. Any help will be appreciated. The strings I include in the package are there for convenience and do not encompass ALL cards. You just need to find a 10.5.5 driver for your card. This thread has one: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...aded&start= Hi, Weaksauce... can i use your pack on a GA-P35-DS3? I use the latest Bios .f14 Kext - all the same? Boot123 ? DSDT - useless? Thx ;-) You'll have to test the kexts. Most boards have minor variations (ICH9 or ICH10, different audio, different network, etc.) that require one or two different kexts. You'll also need to make your own DSDT file, yes. If you get the kexts working, shoot me a PM along with your DSDT dump and I'll include it in the 1-Click package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahdrage Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi! I have a GA-EP35-DS3L, which i want OSX on. I read in your guide that some people have used the guide for that mobo aswell, and that there were more info in this thread. Tried reading through some pages, but hard to browse all 44 of them I see some mentioning of "boot123" guide, is that a guide I could use for that mobo? If so, could i get a link? Thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hey weaksauce12 Your guide is amazing... I built one machine based on ya guide months ago thing is flawless and way better than the iBook G4 ... and it was super cheap.. I can not wait for your New Boot 123 guide... Just one question.. I have a P35 DS3L waiting for the guide .. Do you know if anybody has installed over ESXi... I am currently running a Vista and XP in virtual machines and was wondering if you thought I could load 10.5 on a separate instance... Just an idea... or would it be better just throwing it on a seperate drive.. Well, then you'd need virtual machine drivers. I know PCWiz has done some work with virtualizing OS X, but it's never 100% perfect because there just aren't the proper drivers or hardware acceleration for it. Dual drives would be the best way to go. Remember you can use VMware Fusion inside OS X! Hi!I have a GA-EP35-DS3L, which i want OSX on. I read in your guide that some people have used the guide for that mobo aswell, and that there were more info in this thread. Tried reading through some pages, but hard to browse all 44 of them I see some mentioning of "boot123" guide, is that a guide I could use for that mobo? If so, could i get a link? Thanks for your help! It will be out next Saturday. I'll put a link here in the thread as well as in the first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straightener Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 OK, first off, many thanks for this guide. Now for my frustration. I have followed the guide to the letter, and am spinning my wheels. First, these are the details for my hardware (if anything else should be disclosed, just let me know): The Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Rev 2 mobo with Bios 7 Intel C2Duo E6750 4 GB G-Skill RAM PNY Geforce 8800GT (512 RAM) Lite On DVDRW on IDE channel Generic DVDRW SATA drive 1 Sata HD with Vista installed (and running rock solid) and partitioned to dual boot to XP if necessary 1 Sata HD for storage 1 Sata HD purchased for the install of OS X I also have a Trend NIC and a Linksys wireless adapter Back to my issue: I get everything set up, adjust the BIOS as described, and the install goes great. Upon the system restarting itself, well, thats as far as I get. Darwin reports the only bootable drive is the install DVD. Once the system starts up from the DVD again, I am back at my install options and that is that. I tried a couple tricks I looked up on these forums in terminal with no luck. Apple system profiler sees the HD. The startup disk program does not see the HD. I am scratching my head here. I also spent the time to read through all 55 pages here. If I missed something, my bad! Thanks in advance for any guidance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes123 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Ok, thanks weaksauce, i have a new hd left and so i´m going to make a clean, new install, try things out and post the result(system pref/changed kext/etc.) At the moment i´m glad to have my old system (10.5.5 without DSDT) running on raid-0 (with chameleon-boot). Was a lot of fun (2 DAYS!) to get this working. ;-) -> learning by doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdWrench Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Yup I have this too (I'm running the same guide revision you are). I believe this is because of the IDE driver. I've updated the IDE driver with a newer one and it seems to be working. Download this: http://darwin-ata.googlecode.com/files/JMicronATA.kext.zip Remove the legacyjmicron.kext (Extensions folder), delete extensions.mkext (Library folder), and try this one using Kext Helper (reboot after installation). See if it works for you. Still not working. The DVD drive is accessed randomly and, in particular, when trying to sleep. I built this with my retail family pack 10.5.1 disk. Have you been using a different disk in your build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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