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Thank you weaksauce12 you are a star. After trashing my system with what few guides were available at the time it has just been sitting there and I have been using Windows (Yuck).

I will dedicate Monday to a clean install with the new guide and then give Boot 123 a shot when it comes out as I am not afflicted by any legacy ports.

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Thank you weaksauce12 you are a star. After trashing my system with what few guides were available at the time it has just been sitting there and I have been using Windows (Yuck).

I will dedicate Monday to a clean install with the new guide and then give Boot 123 a shot when it comes out as I am not afflicted by any legacy ports.

 

Bleh, re-doing the Kalyway install? Sent you a PM with BOOT132 info. I'll try to get the BOOT132 stuff out ASAP. I don't want people using Kalway anymore, it's too messy. The BOOT132 method is lightyears better. Maybe I'll just put up the basic BOOT132 guide on Monday and add the rest of the sections later.

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Bleh, re-doing the Kalyway install? Sent you a PM with BOOT132 info. I'll try to get the BOOT132 stuff out ASAP. I don't want people using Kalway anymore, it's too messy. The BOOT132 method is lightyears better. Maybe I'll just put up the basic BOOT132 guide on Monday and add the rest of the sections later.

That would be great weaksauce if you could. Or if possible PM me links about your boot-132 guide? is it much different than cyberbuddhhah's guide? I am going away for 2 weeks (to the whitsundays (islands in the coral sea) :D if anyone knows much bout australia) and I will have all the final parts for my build when I get back, I was hoping to use the boot-132 method, have a retail disc etc. ready. Don't want too be left to far behind when I get home

 

My final build will be:

 

E7200 (ditched the Q6600 idea, as the Australian dollar is worth $%^# all at the moment, so they are about $300+ in Aus)

4gb 800 hyperX

px7600GT - 256mb

Obviously a GA-P35-DS3L

picked up a 24" LCD :(

and got a 120gb sata for backup + will get a 500gb sata

 

 

I know people have said not to partition your install drive, but I am wondering as most the people who have had issues were bootin windows on the other partition can I safely partition a 500gb in two - 1 for osx install and the other partition in hfs still for storage, would that be safe? I want to store all my important data onto a seperate partition than the osx install incase something goes sour one day.

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All i can say is thank you weaksauce12 for not leaving us and taking this evolutionary step of making the boot132 guide. Been waiting for a long time for a guide to boot132 for dummies, and I'm thankfull its you who is doing it. You write good guides!!!

 

Good luck and thanks!

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Sent you a PM with some info. The BOOT132 guide isn't completely done yet, but the package is. More info next week :P

 

 

Hi weaksauce12,

 

Thanks for all your efforts I too would like very much to get started on installing a Boot132 system since I have a retail Leopard disc and my system based also on a GA-P35-DS3L Rev 2.0. Not to rush you but if possible can you PM the info too? I could wait for Monday but may have more free time in the weekend since weekdays can a busy time for me with work and such. And I'd like to drop Kalyway for a boot 132 sounds like a easier process for doing software updates.

 

Have a great weekend and Happy Halloween!

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That would be great weaksauce if you could. Or if possible PM me links about your boot-132 guide? is it much different than cyberbuddhhah's guide? I am going away for 2 weeks (to the whitsundays (islands in the coral sea) :D if anyone knows much bout australia) and I will have all the final parts for my build when I get back, I was hoping to use the boot-132 method, have a retail disc etc. ready. Don't want too be left to far behind when I get home

 

My final build will be:

 

E7200 (ditched the Q6600 idea, as the Australian dollar is worth $%^# all at the moment, so they are about $300+ in Aus)

4gb 800 hyperX

px7600GT - 256mb

Obviously a GA-P35-DS3L

picked up a 24" LCD :)

and got a 120gb sata for backup + will get a 500gb sata

I know people have said not to partition your install drive, but I am wondering as most the people who have had issues were bootin windows on the other partition can I safely partition a 500gb in two - 1 for osx install and the other partition in hfs still for storage, would that be safe? I want to store all my important data onto a seperate partition than the osx install incase something goes sour one day.

 

Sent you a link. The only reason I'm not posting it now is that the full guide isn't ready and it's not formatted yet. Gotta clean up this guide first and then finish up the BOOT132 stuff :(

 

You're free to partition the drive however you want. The only thing you DON'T want to do is use the second partition for Time Machine backup - if your boot drive fails and your Time Machine backup is on a partition on that drive, you lose everything lol. Also, the guide will cover multi-booting if you need a second OS available.

 

 

All i can say is thank you weaksauce12 for not leaving us and taking this evolutionary step of making the boot132 guide. Been waiting for a long time for a guide to boot132 for dummies, and I'm thankfull its you who is doing it. You write good guides!!!

 

Good luck and thanks!

 

Hey, you're welcome! This is a really easy method for doing BOOT132 for the P35-DS3L - all you do is format the USB stick in Windows with included tools (30 seconds), burn a Boot CD if you want to use the Retail DVD to install or partition the Hard Drive if you want to copy the Retail DVD to a partition for faster installation, install Leopard, install my toolkit (Video Card driver, etc.), and download updates. You can take additional steps to copy the USB stick to a hard drive partition if you'd like, but I prefer to keep the USB stick attached permanently because it makes a nice bootloader and still works even if your hard drive dies and you need to re-install.

 

Hi weaksauce12,

 

Thanks for all your efforts I too would like very much to get started on installing a Boot132 system since I have a retail Leopard disc and my system based also on a GA-P35-DS3L Rev 2.0. Not to rush you but if possible can you PM the info too? I could wait for Monday but may have more free time in the weekend since weekdays can a busy time for me with work and such. And I'd like to drop Kalyway for a boot 132 sounds like a easier process for doing software updates.

 

Have a great weekend and Happy Halloween!

 

Sent! Happy Halloween to you too!

 

Again I've got the core BOOT132 guide completed, but I'm still writing the additional sections and then I have to format everything nicely, so that will take a week or so. Going to be a very exciting week next week :D

 

Very nice guide. Does this still work?

 

Absolutely. The 10.5.5 Kalyway guide will be release Monday, then I'm stopping support of this version of the guide in favor of the BOOT132 method (more stable and easier to install).

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Weaksauce,

 

Three questions.

 

1) For the Boot132 method, are the BIOS settings the same as this one?

 

2) Could you kindly send me your Boot132 guide?

 

3) Does one still need a bootloader image for this version?

 

Hi, sent!

 

The package includes a complete list of BIOS settings; you'll need F7 or newer. F8 is out of beta now and works fine as far as I can tell.

 

You need two bootloaders, both of which are included in my package. The first bootloader is for the USB stick, which requires Windows to install (it's a special version of Linux designed to be run in DOS on a Windows machine). The second bootloader is essentially the same as the USB stick, but is in ISO format and needs to be burned to a CD. You only need to use the Boot CD if you are installing from a Retail Leopard DVD. I prefer ripping the Leopard DVD to an image file and restoring it to a partition - then you only have to use the USB stick to install Leopard and it cuts the install time in half. But, you need a Mac (or Hack) to restore the image to a partition because the drive has to be Mac-formatted. So at the very least you'll need Windows, and if you want the faster/easier install, access to a Mac with a SATA port so you can partition the drive and restore the image to a partition. Complete details are in my BOOT132 tutorial ;)

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Hey WeakSauce,

 

Damn excited to hear that you are almost done with boot 132. God Bless you buddy, and give you lots good children and lotsa money. :) Can't wait to try it man.

 

Now Few questions:

 

1) I have got a Mac OSX 10.5.4 9E25 retail.dmg (is this the correct retails dvd version?) or do we need to get another version. Since it's weekend, so perhaps we can try to get it as most of us don't have to work so we can be ready for boot 132 method on monday. :(

 

Then I converted this image to .iso on windows and burnt it to dual layer disk (as it is 7+ GB), i was hoping to follow this guide, http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=113288 but this guide and many others are so confusing.

 

2) I also tried to use this guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0tmkFOzPI4 to make my old usb harddrive to become bootable (using the above Mac OSX 10.5.4 retail image) but once mac starts the writing process, the harddisk just freezes and does not let mac write anything to it. Anyway, this one not important..

 

3) Thirdly, as mentioned the above Image I burnt using imgburn, but it does not get recognized in both vista and kalyway mac. KalyMac says it's empty and vista says I don't have permission to even see what's on it, (and when I restart both of these systems with this dual layer disk on it (booting from cdrom), both of the PC's can't pick up anything from cd rom eventhough I burnt it on vista. The disk itself looks to have been burnt successfully, guessing from the surface. Do we need special software to see if the disk has been burnt successfully? The image that I have seems to be correct and in fine version.

 

But Let's assume if not, then how can I make sure that we have successfully burnt a dual layer dvd that I will be able to use when using boot 132 method. Hope you will put some instructions on doing this step, as DL disks here are one time use only and each one costs like a 2USdollars. So don't want to be burning too much money on burning disks. :)

 

Well, I am guessing your guide would already have addressed the above mentioned issues, so my questions are not very serious. Meanwhile, if you have time, please also PM me the 99% finished version of your boot132 guide :) Thank you. Maybe I can start working on it tonight or tomorrow morning.

 

 

MAC OSX (KALYWAY 10.5.5, Using WeakSauce Installation Guide +Netkas Method)

Bios F6beta for MotherBoard GA-EP35-DS3L. E6550 Intel.

4gb RAM. 160Gb HardDisk and cheap 256MB Nividia Card.

Everything working perfectly and fine (Sound, Graphics, Lan, Mouse, Keyboard, Shutdown, restart, I don't use sleep)

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The Boot 123 guide you are making uses the USB stick / partition method, definitely a move in the right direction i think.

 

Are you keeping an eye on the method that boots from a EFI partition (it is coming to Chameleon soon) as this looks to be the best retail install e.g. all hacks are kept seperate to the install and discs can be used on real macs and hacks?:

 

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=127330

 

 

I hope you are because that method is looking great and combined with the guides you write......

 

:D

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Hi, sent!

 

The package includes a complete list of BIOS settings; you'll need F7 or newer. F8 is out of beta now and works fine as far as I can tell.

 

You need two bootloaders, both of which are included in my package. The first bootloader is for the USB stick, which requires Windows to install (it's a special version of Linux designed to be run in DOS on a Windows machine). The second bootloader is essentially the same as the USB stick, but is in ISO format and needs to be burned to a CD. You only need to use the Boot CD if you are installing from a Retail Leopard DVD. I prefer ripping the Leopard DVD to an image file and restoring it to a partition - then you only have to use the USB stick to install Leopard and it cuts the install time in half. But, you need a Mac (or Hack) to restore the image to a partition because the drive has to be Mac-formatted. So at the very least you'll need Windows, and if you want the faster/easier install, access to a Mac with a SATA port so you can partition the drive and restore the image to a partition. Complete details are in my BOOT132 tutorial ;)

 

Thank you, Weaksauce. By the way, I'd like to ask you what your name means.

 

Is it difficult to transition from a Kalyway install to a Vanilla Retail install at some point? I think I may go the Kalyway way now but graduate to the Vanilla Retail install when Snow Leopard 10.6 comes out. Will this still work if I am backing up my system with Time machine?

 

Weaksauce, how can one update the BIOS? Do P35s automatically come with Bios v7 or higher?

 

Weaksauce, I see your from sig that you're a video editor. Meh too! :)

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But Let's assume if not, then how can I make sure that we have successfully burnt a dual layer dvd that I will be able to use when using boot 132 method. Hope you will put some instructions on doing this step, as DL disks here are one time use only and each one costs like a 2USdollars. So don't want to be burning too much money on burning disks. :P

 

Sent you a PM. Has been successfully tested on the EP35 with the F5 BIOS. Follow the HDD method I outline rather than the DVD method. It's faster and easier.

 

 

The Boot 123 guide you are making uses the USB stick / partition method, definitely a move in the right direction i think.

 

Are you keeping an eye on the method that boots from a EFI partition (it is coming to Chameleon soon) as this looks to be the best retail install e.g. all hacks are kept seperate to the install and discs can be used on real macs and hacks?:

 

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=127330

I hope you are because that method is looking great and combined with the guides you write......

 

:D

 

I'm not combining the EFI partition trick with my guide. It will be in the Appendix as an optional method, but I prefer the USB stick for the following reasons (among others):

 

1. It acts as a nice bootloader

2. No risk to boot system if Hard Drive fails

3. Can use SuperDuper to clone normally, no need to install Chameleon to the cloned drive

4. Easier to upgrade the software on the stick

 

I prefer it mainly because it's external and is 100% separate from the Hard Drive. It acts as an indepedent system like a BIOS rather than a dependent system installed to the hard drive. Having the USB stick plugged in means I can install Leopard whenever I want (from a partition with a restored DVD image), I can upgrade my hard drive whenever I want, I can use SuperDuper to clone whenever I want, and it's all very easy and painless to do so. It's $9 for a 1GB USB stick and only takes up one port, so it's not out of anyone reach to do it. The EFI partition trick is a tad complicated and requires a boot more footwork if you ever need to reconfigure your system, whereas the USB stick is purely plug-and-play. Personally I prefer the USB stick, but the EFI partition trick definitely works and if you're content with leaving it on your hard drive, then by all means do it. Detailed instructions will be provided either way :)

 

 

Thank you, Weaksauce. By the way, I'd like to ask you what your name means.

 

Is it difficult to transition from a Kalyway install to a Vanilla Retail install at some point? I think I may go the Kalyway way now but graduate to the Vanilla Retail install when Snow Leopard 10.6 comes out. Will this still work if I am backing up my system with Time machine?

 

Weaksauce, how can one update the BIOS? Do P35s automatically come with Bios v7 or higher?

 

Weaksauce, I see your from sig that you're a video editor. Meh too! :)

 

Name doesn't mean anything, just a random screenname :) Only really useful for being unique on Google along with the "Leopard Soup" title :)

 

You will have to manually transition your machine from Kalyway to Retail. You cannot use Time Machine or Migration Assistant because both methods copy the entire Hackintosh sub-system to the Retail installation. It would be the equivalent of installing Kalyway on an iMac - things get seriously messed up! So just plan on re-installing your apps and copying over your files manually via drag-and-drop.

 

Updating the BIOS is very simple, you don't even need a floppy anymore. Just hop on Gigabyte's website and download the F7 or F8 BIOS executable, extract the file in Windows (self-executing extraction EXE), and pop the resulting BIOS file onto a FAT-formatted USB stick. Plug it in and boot up; at BIOS hit the QFlash key (don't remember it off the top of my head), backup your existing BIOS, and install the new one. Most newer P35's come with the F7 BIOS; you can check when it boots up because it tells you the BIOS version you're running. The EP35-DS3L works with this guide too and is a bit easier to find, although it looks like it's out of stock on Newegg.

 

I dabble with video - it's super nice to have a machine that can actually handle real-time editing! I priced out the same system I have at the Apple Store Online for $6,000 more than what I built it for, comparing the exact same specs. I'm actually running a Smoothcam filter at the moment...it's making me think about trying a Supermicro Quad-Processor Hackintosh haha. 42 minutes for a 2-minute clip @ 1080p. Not only that, but my 2-minute M2T file came in at 500mb (250mb/minute) @ 1080p. Oye! I actually just finished the hardware setup today, got my ShuttleXpress and other goodies all rigged up to start slicing and dicing :)

 

I've also got an interesting hard drive setup. My first drive is for Capture/Compression and is a Samsung F1 1TB drive (around $109 shipped now). My second drive is for Editing and consists of dual 500gb 7200rpm drives in RAID 0 using a Rosewill card ($25 RAID card + $60 per 500gb drive now = $145). The 1TB drive clocked in at 100mb/s while the dual 500's in striping came in at 123mb/s. Not bad either way, and killer speed for the price! I use a dual-drive setup so that I can Capture on the first drive, then read it for editing to the second drive, then flip it back for storage/compression when I'm done. That way instead of doing a read/write to the same drive, it's reading from the first one and writing to the second one, the vice versa when I'm done. That's the theory, anyway! I also started using this approach for my VM's; I keep them on a smaller, separate hard drive as well. That way OS X gets the boot drive, I have a pair for video editing, and a spare for virtual machines.

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Hi, sorry for the latency, I have a rev1 board .. .i think. I have 4 USB in the back and 2 USB in front.

 

Glad to help if I can. what should I do? Email me at blueriotriver yahoo com

 

Thank you,

Pavel

 

Will do, just need a Rev1.0 tester for the updated Kalyway method as well as for the (now completed) BOOT132 method. Thank you sir!

 

waiting for this boot132 method is like waiting for Christmas morning. It can't come soon enough.... :unsure:

 

Oh boy, it's gorgeous, it really is. I've been using Final Cut Pro hardcore for the past 3 days and it hasn't skipped a beat. Onboard Ethernet, Sleep, Shutdown, everything works 100%. I just finished filming my first sample clip for the HD video tutorial and it came out wonderful with my new digital microphone, nice and clean audio. Working on a concise script so I can teach the new method in just a few minutes. It's so ridiculously easy now, it's not even funny. It will have a nicely-formatted PDF plus a detailed checklist to go along with it. I have Thanksgiving off and will probably wrap it up around then and release it for the holiday :D

 

I meant to get the Kalyway 10.5.5 update out on Monday, but it still needs some additional testing. Probably a weekend release now. It's just the Netkas method of doing the rm -rf deal in Terminal, so for all of you waiting just go ahead and do that (as always, make sure you have a full system clone or backup first!).

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Thank you Weaksauce for you clear and concise instructions. I am all set now with a new flash drive and a shiny retail OSX disk (which perversely the shop did not want to sell me without a new MAC). The only thing stopping me now is I only have one hard drive. I know if I order another one I will end up buying three (or worse switch to Raptors). Another identical one for a Raid 0 XP setup, one for OSX and a 1TB one for backup, overkill and unnecessary for me I realise but it's just too tempting even through I know I will regret it when the credit card bill comes ;) . (Probably all the more so if I start looking into the gadgets you mention in the guide which will lead to even more hardware purchases in addition to the gadgets.)

 

To avoid my bankruptcy please could your 'final grand unified guide' cover duel booting OSX/XP off one disk like your Kalyway guide.

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Thank you Weaksauce for you clear and concise instructions. I am all set now with a new flash drive and a shiny retail OSX disk (which perversely the shop did not want to sell me without a new MAC). The only thing stopping me now is I only have one hard drive. I know if I order another one I will end up buying three (or worse switch to Raptors). Another identical one for a Raid 0 XP setup, one for OSX and a 1TB one for backup, overkill and unnecessary for me I realise but it's just too tempting even through I know I will regret it when the credit card bill comes :thumbsup_anim: . (Probably all the more so if I start looking into the gadgets you mention in the guide which will lead to even more hardware purchases in addition to the gadgets.)

 

To avoid my bankruptcy please could your 'final grand unified guide' cover duel booting OSX/XP off one disk like your Kalyway guide.

 

To avoid problems, I've only tested dual-booting on 2 separate drives, but I'll see how it works on BOOT132.

 

However, you need to get a secondary drive regardless. Running without a backup drive is flat out insane man! Leopard's #1 feature is Time Machine. What boot drive do you have now? Newegg sells a 160gb hard drive for a very reasonable $42, and Mwave has a 1TB for $109 shipped. Hackintoshes are very touchy beasts and even something as simple as an Apple Update can crash your whole system, making backup drives a solid priority on the hardware list. Do yourself a favor and pick up a small one, even a used one if you have to, but get a backup drive! You never know when your boot drive will die, leaving you with a complete data loss, or if you install an update that breaks the whole system, leaving you with no way to restore your data. I've been bitten twice for not having backups and I will never, ever, ever run without a backup again. In addition, you can just install XP on the secondary drive and save yourself the headache of setting up a dual-boot partition system. But please take my advice and get even a small used drive at the very least for backup, I can't stress that enough!!!

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To avoid problems, I've only tested dual-booting on 2 separate drives, but I'll see how it works on BOOT132.

 

However, you need to get a secondary drive regardless. Running without a backup drive is flat out insane man! Leopard's #1 feature is Time Machine. What boot drive do you have now? Newegg sells a 160gb hard drive for a very reasonable $42, and Mwave has a 1TB for $109 shipped. Hackintoshes are very touchy beasts and even something as simple as an Apple Update can crash your whole system, making backup drives a solid priority on the hardware list. Do yourself a favor and pick up a small one, even a used one if you have to, but get a backup drive! You never know when your boot drive will die, leaving you with a complete data loss, or if you install an update that breaks the whole system, leaving you with no way to restore your data. I've been bitten twice for not having backups and I will never, ever, ever run without a backup again. In addition, you can just install XP on the secondary drive and save yourself the headache of setting up a dual-boot partition system. But please take my advice and get even a small used drive at the very least for backup, I can't stress that enough!!!

It's a good idea to have two system partitions and use the second one for testing updates (or for fixing/messing around with your primary install).

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It's a good idea to have two system partitions and use the second one for testing updates (or for fixing/messing around with your primary install).

 

I'd even take that a step further and say get a second drive for cloning to and testing updates...I picked up a used 250gb SATA for cheap and use that for testing updates and whatnot, comes in very handy! If you test on a different partition on the same drive, you always run that risk of messing up the boot system or somehow accidentally overwriting your main installation (not that I've, uh, ever had that happen...) :rolleyes:

 

I updated the original post - I formatted the 10.5.4 guide into PDF and added it to the download package. I've been trying out some software from my BOOT132 system and I think it will work nicely for those of you who choose to stick with the Kalyway system. Again, I am done updating the Kalyway guide after the 10.5.5 update - all of my attention will be spent focusing on the BOOT132 system from then on.

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I ended up purchasing a 500GB hd for $66 and trying the Boot 132 method on it. I originally intended it to just be a test, but it worked so well that I migrated my user (not settings) and re-installed Final Cut Studio/Adobe Creative Suite, etc...

 

Now the vanilla install is my main drive..

 

Patrick

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