weaksauce12 Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 Sorry my bad... it is running 10.5.5.. I loaded of a retail 10.5.4 disk.. upon rechecking.... I loaded it twice, the one per your instructions is the one that is perfect... If I boot of the first attempt that is where i had the issue... I go back to the issue being ME... thx.. It's okay, didn't mean to come across as angry or anything, just pointing out my fancy Checklist feature Basically there are two kexts that have special requirements: 1. R1000.kext 2. AppleSMBIOSEFI.kext The R1000 driver is Psystar's Realtek kext to fix networking. It's not perfect (takes 10-15 seconds to wake from sleep), but it's better than anything else we have. However, if you try to install it before the Security 2008-007 update (which comes after 10.5.5), you'll get a loading error. Also, if you try to package it with the Extensions.mkext file in the Extras folder, you'll lose AFP/Bonjour. So this kext has to be installed to /System/Library/Extensions (SLE) AFTER updating to the 2008-007 Security Update. The AppleSMBIOSEFI driver is the same way - it won't load properly unless you install it AFTER the 2008-007 update. Also, it won't work unless it's installed to SLE. This driver fixes that memory error (the cosmetic stuff in System Profiler) so that everything shows up properly. Also, we are currently using AppleCPUPMdisabler.kext to disable CPU Power Management. I know that Disabler.kext is newer and better, but it doesn't like our boards very much. Not only does it kill a whole bunch of cosmetic stuff in System Profiler, but it also disables other features on our motherboards, so I'm skipping it for now. Everything else (including the CPU PM disabler) is packaged into the Extensions.mkext file in the Extras directory on the root drive. It's not as clean as I'd like, since there are still a couple drivers floating around in SLE, but I've labeled them with Green highlighting to spot them easily in case you need to work with them in the Extensions folder. This BOOT-132 is flawless with 10.5.5. I love it! I've been using it for a couple months with absolutely rock-solid results. Hope you enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikob Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 It's okay, didn't mean to come across as angry or anything, just pointing out my fancy Checklist feature Basically there are two kexts that have special requirements: 1. R1000.kext 2. AppleSMBIOSEFI.kext The R1000 driver is Psystar's kext to fix networking. It's not perfect (takes 10-15 seconds to wake from sleep), but it's better than anything else we have. However, if you try to install it before the Security 2008-007 update (which comes after 10.5.5), you'll get a loading error. Also, if you try to package it with the Extensions.mkext file in the Extras folder, you'll lose AFP/Bonjour. So this kext has to be installed to /System/Library/Extensions (SLE) AFTER updating to the 2008-007 Security Update. The AppleSMBIOSEFI driver is the same way - it won't load properly unless you install it AFTER the 2008-007 update. Also, it won't work unless it's installed to SLE. This driver fixes that memory error (the cosmetic stuff in System Profiler) so that everything shows up properly. Also, we are currently using AppleCPUPMdisabler.kext to disable CPU Power Management. I know that Decrypt.kext is newer and better, but it doesn't like our boards very much. Not only does it kill a whole bunch of cosmetic stuff in System Profiler, but it also disables other features on our motherboards, so I'm skipping it for now. Everything else (including the CPU PM disabler) is packaged into the Extensions.mkext file in the Extras directory on the root drive. It's not as clean as I'd like, since there are still a couple drivers floating around in SLE, but I've labeled them with Green highlighting to spot them easily in case you need to work with them in the Extensions folder. This BOOT-132 is flawless with 10.5.5. I love it! I've been using it for a couple months with absolutely rock-solid results. Hope you enjoy it All we need now is to get 10.5.6 working. Hopefully now that you have your guide out, others will take the plunge and try getting 10.5.6 working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksamus Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I just finished reading the guide. Nice job!! I'm going to be doing this tomorrow morning. My current setup crash when I shutdown today... just in time to install this retail guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 All we need now is to get 10.5.6 working.Hopefully now that you have your guide out, others will take the plunge and try getting 10.5.6 working. Yeah, it's just a matter of whittling the kexts down to see what's stopping it from working. Apparently my old 'final draft' BOOT-132 package works, but not this latest one. I'm not too worried about it after hearing all of the problems that 10.5.6 is having - 10.5.5 is extremely mature and stable; I'm very happy with it and I'm leaving my main machine on it until Snow Leopard is released and has an update or two behind it. What the 10.5.6 update really boils down to is time. I've spent a lot of time working on the various aspects of the guide, package, and installation procedure and haven't had as much time as I wanted to work on the 10.5.6 update. I spent a long time getting the 10.5.5 guide to where it is now (i.e. perfect) and will need to do the same to make sure everything in 10.5.6 works properly. I've also decided to split the video into 3 or 4 segments, based on which installation procedure you choose (intro video, DVD install video, HDD install video, geeky explanation behind the package video, etc.), so that will need some time too. It's all about time...it's all sitting there, waiting to be created Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzTambo Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I just finished reading the guide. Nice job!! I'm going to be doing this tomorrow morning. My current setup crash when I shutdown today... just in time to install this retail guide. Why wait if you use the heard drive setup it take 15 minutes 20 if you are like me ... In the words of Nike ..... Just Do It! Hey Weaksause --- That was not being angry I do data center support for fortune 500's... I anit working unless i am hearing that my f*&k'in issues are costing hundreds of $k Your guide is pure genius... Now I just need to learn to read.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 Why wait if you use the heard drive setup it take 15 minutes 20 if you are like me ... In the words of Nike ..... Just Do It! Yeah on my fast 7200rpm drives, I've got it down to 8 minutes with all of the Customize options unchecked Makes it super easy to do a quick re-install. My recommendation (if you have a spare drive) is to setup your system as per the guide and tweak the settings as you like them, then use SuperDuper to clone it as a sparseimage file to the secondary drive. You can restore this later using the Leopard DVD (Disc Utility) and then just check the Bootloader box in Uinstaller to make it bootable after installing (you can boot it up the first time using the BootCD). Just in case you want a full fresh install, this is even easier than having to do a full re-install Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksamus Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Why wait if you use the heard drive setup it take 15 minutes 20 if you are like me ... In the words of Nike ..... Just Do It! Its about 1am here in Va and Im dead tired... going to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 Oh there is one thing I left out of the guide...some Video Cards are NOT compatible with Leopard until after 10.5.2, such as the Nvidia 8800 GT. What this means to you depends on which Leopard disc you have. There are 3 Leopard DVDs right now: 1.) 10.5.0 2.) 10.5.1 3.) 10.5.4 You only have to worry about this if (1) you have a video card that isn't compatible until after 10.5.2, and (2) if you have a 10.5.0 or 10.5.1 Leopard disc. If you meet these requirements, the solution is simple: don't check the Video Card driver box in Uinstaller when installing. Wait until after you've updated to 10.5.5, THEN install your Video Card. Simple. I don't have a complete list of what is supported in the 10.5.2 update, but I know it includes the 8800 GS, 8800 GT, and 8800 GTS 512mb video cards by Nvidia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikob Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Okay, I am officially running Retail Leopard 10.5.5 from weaksauce's guide! It worked beautifully!!! Thanks Weaksauce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 Okay, I am officially running Retail Leopard 10.5.5 from weaksauce's guide! It worked beautifully!!! Thanks Weaksauce! Awesome! Which install method did you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikob Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Awesome! Which install method did you use? I ended up using the boot from CD method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 I ended up using the boot from CD method. Ah that was fast It's so dang easy now...the video guide is all you really need, the rest of the guide is just background info. Well put it through the paces and let me know how it turns out tomorrow I'm going to bed! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vis Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Well, I'm d/ling the guide as we speak. I have a question though, and because most of us have ga-p35-ds3l, it might be the place to ask. On my previous iDeneb install, everything works fine, however, I've noticed that when I open apps off the dock, there is a noticeable delay before the app launches up. In Vista (Yes, I know, a totally different system) when I open a browser or anything, it launches pretty snappy. My question is, is this just a "feature" of Mac OSX, or is it due to the fact it's a hackintosh? Does anyone else notice a good delay when launching apps? This is on a 7200 rpm drive using ACHI by the way. Just curious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delicatepc Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I have just sat down and read through the guide. Regardless of what the guide is I would like to say Thank you for *actually doing it*. Too many scenes are plagued with vaporware. Having someone submit something with some sort of organization makes projects better. As for the guide.. Excellent. There is always room for improvement but for an essentially fan made guide it is one of the gems without a doubt. Congrats for a well put together guide. Two things: Current package has misc files from OS X (.DSstore etc.). Is it possible to remove them? Secondly the guide in a way feels like there is a mac somewhere (that user has) as a safety net. Very small but some vibe is still there. I think it would be an improvement from a windows only user perspective. Regardless great work and respect for the amount of time and effort. ~dpc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vis Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Just read the guide. Wow, talk about detail. Excellent work, really is top notch and covers just about everything. A+ I do have a quick question though. Are there any inherit advantages to using the boot 123 method with default leopard disk as opposed to using something like iDeneb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auzigog Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Ah that was fast It's so dang easy now...the video guide is all you really need, the rest of the guide is just background info. Well put it through the paces and let me know how it turns out tomorrow I'm going to bed! haha Thanks so much for getting the guide out weaksauce! You seriously rock. I wish I had more to give than just my praise because this is an amazing piece of work! I know you said the developers guide is next and THEN you'll be releasing a package for the EP45-UD3P. I've spent most of the day trying to get the right Kexts so I can use Chameleon. The boot 132 install works fine, it's just upgrading to 10.5.5 and getting a bootloader that are causing problems. A list of kexts that get me CLOSE to a working setup would be great so I don't have to wait 2 weeks to get this thing setup. I know you're a busy man and you're doing a lot for this community already, so if you don't have time, I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJMclean Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Thanks WeakSauce12 for all your hard work! I'll try to setup a plugin for my EX38-DS4 board and share with everyone...kit is still downloading! Cool Man! John V Looking forward to your plugin as i have the same board. But it seems to me that our board is really compatible, i didnt have to install many of the kext after the 10.5.4 update, ie no smbios, achi, ioachi and any of the bluetooth kext. you? Like you, DLing the guide now as i'm a OCnoob and like to OC my chip to 3.0ghz. See sig for spec.. Thanks weaksauce! If there's anything u need just holla mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rheneas Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Just read through the guide, which is impressive! And, I think I found the reason why I was not able to install Retail 10.5.1 last August - I have my SATA DVR plugged into 2 rather than 0 or 1. I had never come across this instruction before. Gives me something to play with right away! Weaksauce, you're going to get tired of all the kudos and appreciation from this community! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibendum Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Just read the guide. Wow, talk about detail. Excellent work, really is top notch and covers just about everything. A+ I do have a quick question though. Are there any inherit advantages to using the boot 123 method with default leopard disk as opposed to using something like iDeneb? First of all, NICE WORK weaksauce12... I like using retail because A. I can use my retail copy of OSX and am not dependent on a sketchy downloaded system. B. I now only have the things things that are needed to run my system, not a lot of patches for other boards that might lead to incompatibilities. C. By using my purchased copy of Leopard, I'm still supporting Apple's software development and being a former (and still, sometimes) software developer, I think that's only fair. I'm sure there are other reasons as well. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahdrage Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Thanks for your guide weaksauce12! As I understand it's not possible at all to use the guide with IDE dvd-drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmmuk Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Hi weaksauce12, thanks for the great guide, v in depth and thorough. I'm trying this on a rev2 p35-ds3l board and am doing the hard drive installation method, from my 10.5.4 hackintosh to a blank sata hdd. I've got as far as installing os x from my retail disk image, and opening uinstaller. however, I get this error after pressing install: cp: directory /Volumes/Data/[username]/Documents/OSX86ToolsGFX does not exist (1) after which point, I press ok, and the program just sits there with the spinning wheel, saying 'Applying time machine fix in com.apple.Boot.plist. I have all the correct options ticked as per the guide, and the EFI string selected for my video card: Nvidia GeForce 7900GT 256MB any ideas? thanks again for the guide (the image install took less than 7 minutes!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksamus Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I just finished installing it and everything went well with no errors. Re-installed everything using the retail DVD. Shutdown is a lot faster than before. Great job weaksauce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 Hi weaksauce12, thanks for the great guide, v in depth and thorough. I'm trying this on a rev2 p35-ds3l board and am doing the hard drive installation method, from my 10.5.4 hackintosh to a blank sata hdd. I've got as far as installing os x from my retail disk image, and opening uinstaller. however, I get this error after pressing install: cp: directory /Volumes/Data/[username]/Documents/OSX86ToolsGFX does not exist (1) after which point, I press ok, and the program just sits there with the spinning wheel, saying 'Applying time machine fix in com.apple.Boot.plist. I have all the correct options ticked as per the guide, and the EFI string selected for my video card: Nvidia GeForce 7900GT 256MB any ideas? thanks again for the guide (the image install took less than 7 minutes!) Unzip the package to your desktop and run it from there. Thanks for your guide weaksauce12!As I understand it's not possible at all to use the guide with IDE dvd-drive? Correct. IDE, Floppy, Parallel, and Serial ports are NOT supported. PS/2 IS supported. I would advise you to get a USB enclosure for your IDE drive. I just finished installing it and everything went well with no errors. Re-installed everything using the retail DVD. Shutdown is a lot faster than before. Great job weaksauce! You're welcome! It's thanks to Psystar's OpenHaltRestart driver. They may not be good for much, but they do make nice drivers Just read through the guide, which is impressive! And, I think I found the reason why I was not able to install Retail 10.5.1 last August - I have my SATA DVR plugged into 2 rather than 0 or 1. I had never come across this instruction before. Gives me something to play with right away! Weaksauce, you're going to get tired of all the kudos and appreciation from this community! I believe this is due to driver support. Leopard recognizes the first two SATA ports in AHCI mode with IDE Mode disabled in the BIOS, but once you get the OS installed and up and running with the drivers, you can plug it into any of the 4 SATA ports, thanks to the drivers. Thanks so much for getting the guide out weaksauce! You seriously rock. I wish I had more to give than just my praise because this is an amazing piece of work! I know you said the developers guide is next and THEN you'll be releasing a package for the EP45-UD3P. I've spent most of the day trying to get the right Kexts so I can use Chameleon. The boot 132 install works fine, it's just upgrading to 10.5.5 and getting a bootloader that are causing problems. A list of kexts that get me CLOSE to a working setup would be great so I don't have to wait 2 weeks to get this thing setup. I know you're a busy man and you're doing a lot for this community already, so if you don't have time, I understand. Current kext package is buggy, so I won't pass it on just yet to save you the headache I gotta do some reading on this ICH10 stuff and figure out what goes where! Just read the guide. Wow, talk about detail. Excellent work, really is top notch and covers just about everything. A+ I do have a quick question though. Are there any inherit advantages to using the boot 123 method with default leopard disk as opposed to using something like iDeneb? Like Bibendum said: 1. No cooked distro, with who knows what inside 2. Legally-purchase OS copy (you are supporting Apple) 3. 100% retail install - you get everything 4. You know EXACTLY what is going in as far as the drivers & bootloader This is pretty much as close to 1:1 as you can get to a Mac at the present time: you're using a retail install, with a Bootloader that allows Leopard to boot on a PC, with drivers that allow your board to work, and nothing else. This means better performance, fewer quirks and bugs, and easier upgrades in the future. Two things: Current package has misc files from OS X (.DSstore etc.). Is it possible to remove them?Secondly the guide in a way feels like there is a mac somewhere (that user has) as a safety net. Very small but some vibe is still there. I think it would be an improvement from a windows only user perspective. Those are just default system files from OS X, which are invisible within Leopard. It is possible to remove them, but I have a separate download package for PC users that I'll be posting with the final thread that doesn't contain any Mac files (the Windows zip file that contains BootCD.iso & ImgBurn). If you don't have a Mac, all you really need is the BootCD image, and the ImgBurn app lets you burn it as an ISO, so you just fire that up and then put the DS3L Kit zip file on a USB stick or blank CD or whatever and copy it over to your desktop once you've installed Leopard. What exactly gives off this 'safety net' vibe? The guide is written with two install methods in mind - DVD install and Hard Drive install. The DVD install can be started from any OS capable of burning CDs, while the Hard Drive method must be done from a Mac. The Mac-only method is much faster and easier, if you already have access to a Mac (as many Hackintosh users do on this thread - i.e. their Hackintoshes!). After installation (either way) you don't need any sort of Mac at all. All I really recommend is a backup hard drive for Time Machine and/or SuperDuper in case you run into problems - that's your real safety net. It's so easy to screw things up on a Hackintosh with the wrong update that I feel a backup drive is 100% necessary, especially given how inexpensive hard drives are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmmuk Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 @weaksauce12 Thanks for the prompt reply. I gave up in the end, and did a cd-install instead of an image install - worked first time! (btw - I had already tried re-downloading the zip, running it from the desktop and also my documents folder, to no avail. I was able to do the whole patching procedure successfully, except for the last 2 checkboxes : time machine fix and gfx driver, both of which produced the above error) anyway got it working now with the cd-method, so thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaksauce12 Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 Well, I'm d/ling the guide as we speak. I have a question though, and because most of us have ga-p35-ds3l, it might be the place to ask. On my previous iDeneb install, everything works fine, however, I've noticed that when I open apps off the dock, there is a noticeable delay before the app launches up. In Vista (Yes, I know, a totally different system) when I open a browser or anything, it launches pretty snappy. My question is, is this just a "feature" of Mac OSX, or is it due to the fact it's a hackintosh? Does anyone else notice a good delay when launching apps? This is on a 7200 rpm drive using ACHI by the way. Just curious.... How much of a delay? A lot of it depends on the app. Like Photoshop can bounce 5-10 times while Safari only bounces once. Depends on CPU/RAM/HDD/App. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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