Complete Updates for Newbies and All -- Currently 10.5.5 Combo (Only Intel CPUs)

[mwjster]

I just want to say i appreciate what your doing Mysticus like you wouldn't believe, but like most people here i am new to this, I was raised and trained on windows. This is complete greek to me at some points while other points are real easy to understand. I know it gets frustrating when you put yourself out to the public and have a solution for something that most other places cant figure out, i know it can get ya angry when people keep sending ya pm's when your post clearly says not to, but calling people noobs and getting upset because someone asks questions that may have been covered on post #1253 just makes yourself look bad and deters others from posting when they have a actual problem for fear of ridicule. If most the people here are like me; i feel like a deer in headlights while im staring at the frozen blue screen after i update or the kernel panics and have no idea why its happening.

 

Now before i PMed you for the files i actually did read over your post multiple times and most of the 60-somthin pages and this is what your post says about kernels.

 

Kernels: Kernel choice is a must for majority of you. 9.4.0 kernel will work for most of the systems, so it is a safe choice (dont ask me about AMD, i dont have any)

 

This doesn't explain the difference at all it just says that you prefer for people to use 9.4.0 kernel. Now most other sites i have been to looking for information since i started doing this basically lead me to believe that if possible you should use the vanilla kernels, and i heard the same rumors about the updating problems with hacked kernels and stuff. I admit i know what a kernel does for a system and how the system depends on it but i do not know what is the difference between most of them and which hacked one would work best for me. So i will try the one you suggested and see if it corrects the problems. Again i thank you for your amazing work and i hope you keep it up and dont let people frustrate you into not doing it anymore... Stay cool man.

[Gaiuh]

gaiuh:

 

kernel: 9.4.0

chipset: dont bother, bcoz you have nforceata working... so nothing there

audio: network: restore

video : nvidia gfx fix (for nforce chipsets this is needed) dont know about nvinject or nvkush works on that (trial error needed)? also dont know if any driver has its device ids? if u can tell me i can check

system func: smbios mac pro? acpi selected

should be ok i guess?

 

I usually dont put nothing for gfx so maybe my error its there... i looked everywhere for a way to put my 9600 gt to work but found nothing! many people have the same problem.. they say maybe in snow leopard version...

 

"also dont know if any driver has its device ids? if u can tell me i can check" ...sorry I didnt understand this part :S what do you need ?

 

yes I always select "mac pro" and it works... never tried acpi though..

 

Im trying tomorrow because its late now.. and then Ill tell you how it worked

 

thanks for everything! keep up the good work

[ Mysticus C*]

I just want to say i appreciate what your doing Mysticus like you wouldn't believe, but like most people here i am new to this, I was raised and trained on windows. This is complete greek to me at some points while other points are real easy to understand. I know it gets frustrating when you put yourself out to the public and have a solution for something that most other places cant figure out, i know it can get ya angry when people keep sending ya pm's when your post clearly says not to, but calling people noobs and getting upset because someone asks questions that may have been covered on post #1253 just makes yourself look bad and deters others from posting when they have a actual problem for fear of ridicule. If most the people here are like me; i feel like a deer in headlights while im staring at the frozen blue screen after i update or the kernel panics and have no idea why its happening.

 

Now before i PMed you for the files i actually did read over your post multiple times and most of the 60-somthin pages and this is what your post says about kernels.

 

Kernels: Kernel choice is a must for majority of you. 9.4.0 kernel will work for most of the systems, so it is a safe choice (dont ask me about AMD, i dont have any)

 

This doesn't explain the difference at all it just says that you prefer for people to use 9.4.0 kernel. Now most other sites i have been to looking for information since i started doing this basically lead me to believe that if possible you should use the vanilla kernels, and i heard the same rumors about the updating problems with hacked kernels and stuff. I admit i know what a kernel does for a system and how the system depends on it but i do not know what is the difference between most of them and which hacked one would work best for me. So i will try the one you suggested and see if it corrects the problems. Again i thank you for your amazing work and i hope you keep it up and dont let people frustrate you into not doing it anymore... Stay cool man.

 

read post# 1354 for some surface info... i cant give you more details or insight for the kernel versions bcoz i dont make any kernel, and from the experience and from other people's experience, you get a picture of what works for which systems, and how well it works... if used/installed correctly...

 

i can tell this much... rest depends on your own trial and errors of kernels to see what works better for what system? bcoz there is way too many configs and factors for hardwares... no way of knowing how it would act... same chipset can act different on different people... only the owner of that system can figure out more insights... i only provide the most basic things that are required, and before i finish the patch work, i already ask people to send me their working drivers so i can add them into the package... i m not gonna do search work for people, bcoz i dont have time for all that... plus no way of knowing it would work or not, unless i have that particular hardware....

 

enough?

 

neew: you are seriously annoying... i answered your question about gfx as well as ps2 and everything, and you are so frigging annoying, i dont know how you read? read the damn answer in post#1336

[mwjster]

Well just to update i tryed the 9.4 stagexnu and the 9.2.0 sleep and speedstep kernels and no change between any of them, sometimes my laptop will shutdown other times it will just sit at Mach_Reboot (when i boot with -v) but it never actualy reboots and when i use sleep in will go to sleep and then pop right back out and will do a repeated beep like a key is stuck down.

 

So ill stay with vanilla 9.5.0 for now and ill try new kernels as i come across them and maybe ill find the right one.

[Gaiuh]

gaiuh:

 

kernel: 9.4.0

chipset: dont bother, bcoz you have nforceata working... so nothing there

audio: network: restore

video : nvidia gfx fix (for nforce chipsets this is needed) dont know about nvinject or nvkush works on that (trial error needed)? also dont know if any driver has its device ids? if u can tell me i can check

system func: smbios mac pro? acpi selected

should be ok i guess?

 

ok Mysticus I tried what you suggested but didnt work... got stucked in the same placed =\ I think my mobo really doesnt like 10.5.5 because iDeneb released a 10.5.5 DVD and I cant get it to boot ...I get stucked in the same place! grr its really annoying... iDeneb 10.5.4 works though!

[sweatyfish]

Thanks, the update worked!

 

Only issue was my video didn't have CI/QE. And I messed up my system trying to fix it. (Good thing I did a time machine before hand). I tried reinstalling the NVinject (0.2.1) but that didn't work. I'll work on it later.

 

Poster Above: Don't worry, I couldn't get the iDeneb 10.5.5 to finish booting the DVD either. And I have a Bad Axe 2 Mobo....

[Beerkex'd]

Thanks Mysticus C!

 

I was updating a JaS 10.5.4 Client installation, so I used the Delta Update instead of the Combo.

 

I could only reboot with -x after updating but after restoring these from my previous installation:

 

AppleACPIPlatform.kext

AppleAHCIPort.kext

AppleAPIC.kext

IOAHCIFamily.kext

IOATAFamily.kext

 

Installing NVDarwin and inserting my previous NVCAP and hardware ID into it -

 

Extracting

 

NVDANV40Hal.kext

NVDAResman.kext

Geforce.kext

 

from the 10.5.5 update package using Pacifist and adding my hardware ID to them, I've got 10.5.5 booting with CI/QE working.

 

Thanks again!

[rheneas]

Third time is a charm! I'm running 10.5.5 on my test partition.

 

This time I selected the 9.4XNU kernel instead of 9.5, and was more careful with SMBIOS selection which I believe I checked incorrectly on attempt 2.

 

The odd thing is my XBENCH score dropped sharply from about 130 to 80! Will check again after restart.

 

GA P35C

Kaly 10.5.4-Mysticus 10.5.5

Q6600 2.4 ghz

GeForce 7300GS 256 MB

Kingston 4 GB 800 mhz RAM

Trendnet Wireless-N

SATA - Leopard/Leopard Test

SATA - XP Pro SP3

[ Mysticus C*]

Well just to update i tryed the 9.4 stagexnu and the 9.2.0 sleep and speedstep kernels and no change between any of them, sometimes my laptop will shutdown other times it will just sit at Mach_Reboot (when i boot with -v) but it never actualy reboots and when i use sleep in will go to sleep and then pop right back out and will do a repeated beep like a key is stuck down.

 

So ill stay with vanilla 9.5.0 for now and ill try new kernels as i come across them and maybe ill find the right one.

 

 

my test laptop with gma 900 also has issues with shutdown/restart/sleep at times...but these things are expected on some laptops, bcoz they use different mobos, with different powermanagement functions...

 

the only thing i can suggest is to try voodoo 9.4.0 beta1 with speedstep (it also installs speedstep applications, which i dont know what they do as i didnt test yet... )

 

for the gfx card, i will do it after work when i get back home... so patience is needed :censored2:

 

 

sweatyfish: provide gfx card details (preferably your hardware profile in your signature)

Some News: I will revise the update package to add couple more options for restoring previous chipset drivers (for ichx, ioatafamily, ioahcifamily, ahciport, jmicron...), adding gma 950 and x3100 drivers for both desktop and laptops (which will require trial/error and knowledge of paperclip trick for latpop users...) and maybe some additional options to address some of the problems...

[firstcolle]

yes, i restored the iofirewireserialbusprotocoltransport.kext as well.

 

afer the update i have this 2 kext thet with 10.5.3 i haven't:

AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext

IntelCPUPowerManagementDisabler.kext

i have to delete it?

 

Ok, my problem is caused by appleSmbios.kext. I've selected the 1066mhz during post update and the firewire don't work. if i uncheck all smbios the fire wire work but i can't see the correct frequency of RAM.

What can i try?

[ Mysticus C*]

Ok, my problem is caused by appleSmbios.kext. I've selected the 1066mhz during post update and the firewire don't work. if i uncheck all smbios the fire wire work but i can't see the correct frequency of RAM.

What can i try?

 

 

have you tried just using mac pro instead of 1066?or u can use smbios resolver with the original (vanilla) smbios

[Beerkex'd]

Some News: I will revise the update package to add couple more options for restoring previous chipset drivers (for ichx, ioatafamily, ioahcifamily, ahciport, jmicron...)

 

That's great news. I found that your patch replaced some of those and/or plugins inside them with older versions than I was using with JaS 10.5.4.

 

Some feedback:

 

I updated with the delta update which only replaces or updates umm not sure maybe 15-20 kernel extensions or so, but after doing the whole thing and using your patches, a backup folder was created that had nearly all of my extensions inside it!

Is it possible to change something so that only the kexts that are actually modified or replaced show up in the backup folder?

That would make it a lot easier to quickly identify which kexts have been modified.

 

JaS doesn't use DSMOS, it uses AppleDecrypt.kext. would it be possible for your patch to detect that and skip what it does with dsmos.kext?

 

The CPUManagement extension. On startup it loads and then it's killed immediately by something your patch has installed.

I've never seen this before. There has to be a more elegant way to do that...I don't know how JaS 10.5.4 handled this before, but I know that it didn't have any CPUManagement kext in the extensions folder.

 

I don't suppose I can just delete them both? I'll try that and see what happens.

[ Mysticus C*]

That's great news. I found that your patch replaced some of those and/or plugins inside them with older versions than I was using with JaS 10.5.4.

 

Some feedback:

 

I updated with the delta update which only replaces or updates umm not sure maybe 15-20 kernel extensions or so, but after doing the whole thing and using your patches, a backup folder was created that had nearly all of my extensions inside it!

Is it possible to change something so that only the kexts that are actually modified or replaced show up in the backup folder?

That would make it a lot easier to quickly identify which kexts have been modified.

 

JaS doesn't use DSMOS, it uses AppleDecrypt.kext. would it be possible for your patch to detect that and skip what it does with dsmos.kext?

 

The CPUManagement extension. On startup it loads and then it's killed immediately by something your patch has installed.

I've never seen this before. There has to be a more elegant way to do that...I don't know how JaS 10.5.4 handled this before, but I know that it didn't have any CPUManagement kext in the extensions folder.

 

I don't suppose I can just delete them both? I'll try that and see what happens.

 

i ll lookinto what you said, about dsmos/appledecyrpt, which is quite easy to do

 

 

for the cpupowermanagement, and the disabler, it is necessary though, in any case that the original cpupowermanagement loads, system most likely will freeze, and/or KP... best way to do it is not worrying about it using the disabler (intelcpupowermanagementdisabler.kext)... u dont see it in jas, bcoz it has to be deleted, and now there is a disabler, so no need to delete it or worry about it... if you see all update guides, including netkas, requires deleting the cpupowermanagement...

 

for the backup part, it is tricky, and it is better to backup all rather than miss something... only 150-200 mb i think?

[Beerkex'd]

for the cpupowermanagement, and the disabler, it is necessary though, in any case that the original cpupowermanagement loads, system most likely will freeze, and/or KP... best way to do it is not worrying about it using the disabler (intelcpupowermanagementdisabler.kext)... u dont see it in jas, bcoz it has to be deleted, and now there is a disabler, so no need to delete it or worry about it... if you see all update guides, including netkas, requires deleting the cpupowermanagement...

 

Yeah I know, I had to do that last time when I trashed everything while trying to update using Netkas' method!

 

I moved the disabler out of the extensions folder and deleted cpupm.kext. I'm keeping the disabler in case I need it some other time. It's very convenient for updates but I don't want to see that yellow message everytime I boot with -v

 

So - for the other guy who asked somewhere in this thread - yes you can delete it (and gain 0.5 seconds of boot time) but you might want to keep the disabler.kext for later use.

 

for the backup part, it is tricky, and it is better to backup all rather than miss something... only 150-200 mb i think?

 

I don't disagree! It just confused me at first when I saw everything in the backup folder. It would be easier for the end user if only the extensions that were modifed or replaced were backed up - it would make it a lot easier to troubleshoot any post-update issues because you can immediately identify what was replaced by the update.

 

Maybe you could make the patch write a text file in the backup folder with a list of replaced and updated extensions. Then you could refer to this file when users come here and ask for help. Everyone wins.

 

Anyway I'm just glad it works and that I came across NVDarwin so that I could get video acceleration going as well. I couldn't get it going with my old EFI GFX string or with any of the other injectors I'd used before.

 

Thanks again, and thanks for responding to my ramblings.

[iamtheoneneo]

ok still rediculous problems installing this over kalyway 10.5.1. it just doesnt work - hangs on restart of the update at the apple gear.

dont no what to do , just did smbios , 9.4.0 kernel and still nothing.

 

has anyone got this working on a 1530 or similiar specced machine??

[Beerkex'd]

has anyone got this working on a 1530 or similiar specced machine??

 

Maybe you can find something here:

 

http://######.com/osx86search/resul...FORID%3A11#1110

[iamtheoneneo]

seems to work in safe mode (-x on boot) but not normally??? what could be causing the problem?

[Beerkex'd]

Hard to tell without any information. Maybe video.

 

What where you using before updating, to get QE/CI? Injector or EFI string?

 

If you have any injector present in the extensions folder, delete it, delete extensions.mkext and reboot with -f -x.

Then try installing NVDarwin. You can find it in the drivers section under graphics here on InsanelyMac.

[iamtheoneneo]

it is a fresh install of kalys 10.5.1. with vinalla kerns and not alot else. cant understand why it isnt working in norm mode.

[Beerkex'd]

You said that already. There is no valuable information in your post.

 

If you want my help, give me the information I'm asking for and, if it applies to your situation, follow my advice.

 

If you don't understand what I'm talking about, just ask.

 

If I was using Kalyway 10.5.1 I would use the "official" Kalyway updates to update it to 10.5.3 first before trying Mysticus' update.

 

Search for "Kalyway Combo Update" and you should find something to easily get you to 10.5.3. Those updates were written specifically for the Kalyway distribution and are very very easy to apply. Don't forget to get Kalyway's Kernel update package as well.

 

There's a lot less that can go wrong if you do it that way.

[ Mysticus C*]

You said that already. There is no valuable information in your post.

 

If you want my help, give me the information I'm asking for and, if it applies to your situation, follow my advice.

 

If you don't understand what I'm talking about, just ask.

 

you are wasting your time i wasted my time before as well...

[Beerkex'd]

I was trying to help someone on another hackintosh forum. Every time I gave him instructions and advice he posted that he had done something completely different from what I had said and made everything worse for himself.

 

Noobs:

Don't be so proud. The first thing you have to admit to yourself is that you don't know what you are doing. It's nothing to be ashamed of. You have to start somewhere.

If you want help from someone who seems to know more than you, pay attention to what they say, answer the questions they ask you, and if you don't understand some of the words they use, look them up! use google! Or just ask.

 

If you don't want to read or if you're too lazy to read, go away! Don't use a text based medium to get your help if you don't know how to express yourself in writing or look up information and read.

[ Mysticus C*]

lol, wish it was that simple to solve problems with noobs

 

the problem with noobs is they dont realy like to read at all... they dont like to search... they just want their meal cooked and served in front of them... i said for example not to be PMed right in the first post!, and in my PM when they ask for links as well (which i said only should be used for links), and they keep PMing me for help, and some are desperate and asking me to help them ASAP! lol

 

i tell one of them post it in the topic when he uses pm, and he still pm me...

 

when i swear at him after third pm, i am the one being rude , oh they like to argue at the end when they cant get a nicer answer one time, guy kept on coming on my thread and keep swearing at me why?

 

he asked me why nforceata driver doesnt work on his sata dvdrom, i said i dont know, but i forwarded him to the guy (medevil) to ask for help, again he kept on pm ing me (at least 5 times, and i explained it 5 times to him that the fix is not with me, ask the guy who did it) asking me to find a cure for his dvdrom read issues.... i called him stupid for being dumb and keep asking me to fix something that i dont have no knowledge about, and than been F ed all the time at the end he got banned...

 

another one, i tell him to do A and B, and he kept on doing B and C, and asking for help, i ask him why u keep doing what you wanna do? he says he doesnt feel comfortable with what i say, and he wants to do something else, he does it 3 times, and things dont work, and after every single trial he ask help but doesnt do what i say... some people are really funny...

 

well there are times that things still dont work out, but because of very poor problem description and lack of other necessary information, you cant really help any better...

 

well after 3-4 experience in a row, u get pissed off, and blow up to an innocent noob

 

i m off to bed, so tired already, will do the patches in the weekend...

[exman]

I followed this guide and it worked, 100% all good. I used the 9.4 kernel, however it that doesn't support 64bit so I went back to the 9.2.2 modbin kernel.

 

Thank you Mysticus C.

[Beerkex'd]

The 9.4.0 StageXNU kernel supports 64-bit just fine - and it does it without needing an additional kernel flag in the boot.plist.

 

It also does 64-bit better than the modbin kernel - unlike the modbin kernel chess.app doesn't crash and works great in 64-bit mode.

 

You can use pacifist to extract the StageXNU kernel from Mysticus' update package and PCWiz' OSX86 tool to install it. Don't forget to install the matching system.kext as well or you will crash and burn..

 

Or you can download it (it's been renamed to Voodoo Kernel) + its system kext from here:

http://groups.google.com/group/xnu-dev/web...oo-9-4-0-kernel