Complete Updates for Newbies and All -- Currently 10.5.5 Combo (Only Intel CPUs)

[muitommy]

Mysticus, my apologies for what is likely a stupid question ... but ... what is the difference between the 9.5 vanilla kernel and the 9.4 stagexnu? The stigma around the vanilla (at least from a relatively new persons point of view) is that it can do updates direct from Apple Update while others cannot. Is this true in this case or can the stagexnu kernel do updates as well? Maybe if you explained the difference people wouldnt be so apt to use the vanilla one:)

 

BTW, the 1.1.3a updates of your worked flawlessly on my test partiiton except one error, startup item /library/startupitems/shutdownfix does not have the proper security settings. I just clicked "Fix" and it worked fine.

 

the compatibility of vanilla kernel in certain mobo, even for intel mobo is not very good. there're issue linking with speedstep, sleep, proper shutdown, various problems may or may not occur. but surely stagexnu have better compatibility of various cpu, have both speedstep and sleep working together, should shutdown properly without replacing acpiplatform ... (hope i i didn't mix things up lol, correct me if i'm wrong)

[ Mysticus C*]

Mysticus, my apologies for what is likely a stupid question ... but ... what is the difference between the 9.5 vanilla kernel and the 9.4 stagexnu? The stigma around the vanilla (at least from a relatively new persons point of view) is that it can do updates direct from Apple Update while others cannot. Is this true in this case or can the stagexnu kernel do updates as well? Maybe if you explained the difference people wouldnt be so apt to use the vanilla one:)

 

BTW, the 1.1.3a updates of your worked flawlessly on my test partiiton except one error, startup item /library/startupitems/shutdownfix does not have the proper security settings. I just clicked "Fix" and it worked fine.

 

What is kernel? in brief: it is the hearth of any operating system. Update is modifying operating systems functions or adding better heart to the system, but to be able to update, you need to have a running system.

 

Think of KERNEL as an engine of a car (PC)... DRIVER as components to get the power from the engine and help the car move or do special actions... like tyres to move the car, steering equipment to turn around, break to stop... UPDATE is more like TUNING a car! getting tyres for specific purposes, or getting a modified engine, or modifying the engine... extend the story as you like, but brief story is like this...

 

You cannot put an X engine into Y brand car always, engine has certain dimensions and connections to other components in the car! But you can always modify/tune it to fit for specific cars and needs

 

stagexnu, or toh sleep kernel, or voodoo, or nforce kernel, are patched/recompiled kernels that are for specific cpus?chipsets? or general use? and these patched kernels has nothing to do with update either!

 

perception of vanilla is usually wrong...

 

it has nothing to do with updating with original updates... vanilla kernel means only it is original non-patched kernel from apple... it has lots of issues on non-apple products... speedstep, shutdown, sleep is some of those, which partly or in full doesnt work in even fully compatible mobos (except real macs) without further patched files or additional software installs...

 

also, noone is really doing major full updates directly from apple without using special booting methods (like boot-132, efix etc...) and/or terminal commands prior to updating and even after update, before restarting, you still need to replace some scripts (if you are on non patched direct boot systems....)

 

i add vanilla option for people who knows what it is/does...

 

but from what i see, there are many noobs around, who doesnt read any single line from first posts, or no hobby of learning a thing or two by searching around guides...

 

I say DONT PM ME Support Questions, PM is only for file/link requests, right in the first paragraph, I still receive 5-10 PMs everyday, just asking me the exact questions i say not to be asked by PM

 

(the reason behind not PMing support questions is that we are community here, and if you ask the question in public, everyone can see the question, maybe someone else had the trouble and found a different workaround to the problem can asnwer... or next time someone has same problem with same specs, can read and dont need to ask the question which is already answered! (which hardly happens that people go search the forum for specific problems and than ask the question if no asnwer around, unlike people jump to last page and ask without reading a single line)

 

I say, install 1 this 2 that 3, that and in 3 do this and that, and people still do it wrong... (not talking about some specific cases with those with some nforce chipsets, and those irrelevant systems to my topic like amd cpu questions...)

 

Someone asks me what to do, i tell him the options, and he still does something else, and ask help again... If you dont want to listen, dont ask help...

 

Last but not least, is if you wanna ask for help, there is a proper structure way of asking help....

 

1) make a hardware profile in your signature, so noone has to go back and forth to find your specs,

2) state what you have done specifically, step by step (not just i have dont the guide it doesnt work) what have you done? which steps have you followed? and what choices have u made if you followed the guide?

3) and finally most crucial is what/when happened? possibly booting with -v will provide some insight into the problems, so get the screen caps and post them...

 

if you dont do above steps, it is extremely hard to figure out what is wrong.... even you stated everything correctly and properly, there is no guarantee to know what might be causing the trouble exactly... there is way too many configs to know, and even configs are fine, bioses has issues! working with certain drivers! like acpicpupowermanagement! or hardwaresensors? or apic? or something else... which is beyond my knowledge...

 

if you dont know something ask first, but make sure you dont ask question like is this gonna work on amd cpu? read the title? or how do i do clone system? read the damn first post! if you dont understand ask for details for where you have doubts....

[Neew]

Hi again mystic.

 

Iam really sorry for not understanding.. I mean to do and try my hardest, I thought I selected theright stuff. I guess I got some problems with the GFX string now, Can I type anycommando to remove it?

 

I just booted up with a kyleway dvd to get terminal, I have the command -bash-3.2# and got tips to write

 

nano /Volumes/OSXPARTITION/System/Library/Extensions/AppleACPIPlatform.kext/Contents/PlugIns/ACPIPS2Nub.kext/Contents/Info.plist

 

Then goto ACPIPlatform version and change the value to 1.2.1

 

and then save and reboot

 

after reboot:

 

boot with -s

mount -uw /

cd /System/Library/Extensions

mkdir backup

mv Ge* backup/

mv NV* backup/

reboot

boot with -f

 

this is what I got,but as I am really new to this I dont know how to make the first thing.

 

Ty a lot for youre understanding.. I will try mybest to get it right!

 

Regards

[ Mysticus C*]

neew: make a clean install of whatever you used before (preferably kalyway 10.5.1 or 10.5.2 or jas 10.5.4 release?)

 

and follow the guide and suggestions!

 

and dont choose 10 drivers for the same device! read my suggestion in post #1336

[da_n0n3]

Ok I used the flat image and dd to the partition so its a clean and working 10.5.0

 

I use the 3 steps as stated in the beggining. After choosing Just the ToH kernel or StageXNU kernel they both send a Kill signal after reboot.

 

I choose - Chipset ICHx ; Graphic Nvinject 640mb ; Audio Just restore ; Network Just restore ; SMBOIS 1333mhz

Is it the flat image 10.5.0 that might be the problem?

 

*edit* when choosing StageXNU, Chipset ICHx, no graphics; Audio Just restore ; Network Just restore ; SMBOIS 1333mhz

It reboots - dsmos send a kill signal it reboots to a blue screen with a cursor.

 

thank you

[ Mysticus C*]

Ok I used the flat image and dd to the partition so its a clean and working 10.5.0

 

I use the 3 steps as stated in the beggining. After choosing Just the ToH kernel or StageXNU kernel they both send a Kill signal after reboot.

 

I choose - Chipset ICHx ; Graphic Nvinject 640mb ; Audio Just restore ; Network Just restore ; SMBOIS 1333mhz

Is it the flat image 10.5.0 that might be the problem?

 

*edit* when choosing StageXNU, Chipset ICHx, no graphics; Audio Just restore ; Network Just restore ; SMBOIS 1333mhz

It reboots - dsmos send a kill signal it reboots to a blue screen with a cursor.

 

thank you

 

 

i dont think you did anything correctly... but before that, learn to report problem...

[iamtheoneneo]

ok here goes, on a dell xps 1530 , kalyway 10.5.1 install on mbr with vinalla kern - all runs fine

do the update steps (have done twice now),

1st try -

vinilla kernel , gpu, sound intel

rebooted failed to load past apple screen

 

2nd try (note wiped the drive with disk util and formatted) -

9.4.0 kernel , ICHx, restore net and sound

rebooted and failed to load past apple screen.

errors: no interface name for airport_brcm43xx

iopublisherdivercallback() failed to initdevicefromservice()

 

what the hell? any ideas? iv successfully managed to upgarde 10.5.1 to 10.5.2 in the past with out all this hassle and presumed it was bc i selected to many options the first time around and the kernel but now its done it again im not quite sure? - do you tihnk it might be bc i selected the ichx option???

 

EDIT: hang on i think im going mad, smbios ? must of missed that! going to try a 3rd time with that selected and no ichx and il report back and tell you waht happens.

[ Mysticus C*]

ok here goes, on a dell xps 1530 , kalyway 10.5.1 install on mbr with vinalla kern - all runs fine

do the update steps (have done twice now),

1st try -

vinilla kernel , gpu, sound intel

rebooted failed to load past apple screen

 

2nd try (note wiped the drive with disk util and formatted) -

9.4.0 kernel , ICHx, restore net and sound

rebooted and failed to load past apple screen.

errors: no interface name for airport_brcm43xx

iopublisherdivercallback() failed to initdevicefromservice()

 

what the hell? any ideas? iv successfully managed to upgarde 10.5.1 to 10.5.2 in the past with out all this hassle and presumed it was bc i selected to many options the first time around and the kernel but now its done it again im not quite sure? - do you tihnk it might be bc i selected the ichx option???

 

EDIT: hang on i think im going mad, smbios ? must of missed that! going to try a 3rd time with that selected and no ichx and il report back and tell you waht happens.

 

 

you sure you are following the steps?

 

1-pre patch 2- official update 3-post patch

 

for post patch dont know your specs so cant say much about options to choose...

[Gaiuh]

hi!

 

sorry everyone... here's one more noob for you....

 

I made a clean install of ideneb 1.5.4 and tried to follow your guide and some suggestions but I cant get it to boot properly... I think its almost getting to the login window (sorry for being so vague). I think I didnt choose the right things in the post-patch... can someone give me some advice ?

 

my specs:

 

Intel Core 2 Duo 6750

Asus nVidia p5n32-e sli plus

sound: ADI 1988B (soundcard that comes with mobo)

GPU: 9600 GT (doesnt matter... there isnt any working driver for it)

network: RTL 8139

HDD: SATA

 

sorry for the trouble... and thanks

[iamtheoneneo]

its the following specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo T7250 2 GHz

Intel PM965 mobo

NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT - 256 MB

SigmaTel STAC9228 sound

Marvell Yukon 88E8040 PCI-E ethernet

 

im just doing a 3rd try now, and yep following all the steps as you said but no luck after the 2nd! heres hpoing 3rd time lucky.

 

ok getting annoyed now! 3rd time and still no luck:

chose 9.4.0 kernel

smbios macbookpro

ps2 fix

battery fix

 

my error this time:

indexsdb in si_consistencycheck

 

seems i also have the previous two errors but happly passes them this time (perhaps bc of the smbios?) it then hangs at:

 

dsmos: initilazing

dsmos: hook and decryption contexts set!

dsmos: starting...

 

 

huh? english please apple! anyone actually got this working on a 1530 and what are your settings on the post update?

Mysticus C* any ideas on settings based on specs posted above? its 800mhz fsb (i tihnk?) which is the same as macpro setting in smbios isnt it?

 

does anyone recognise that error?

thanks

[Rich_Wit_It]

I think I already know the answer to this, but I am running 10.5.2 Kalyway, with this install can I jump to 10.5.5 or should I get the Kalyway 10.5.3 first, then to 10.5.4? Only problem is before when I have went to 10.5.4 I no longer have wireless. Thanks for the help in advance.

[Gaiuh]

Rich you can update to 10.5.5 from kalyway 10.5.2 if you follow Mysticus' guide

[Rich_Wit_It]

Rich you can update to 10.5.5 from kalyway 10.5.2 if you follow Mysticus' guide

 

Are you like 100000% positive lol? The only reason I ask is because I've probably installed Leopard literally at least 30 times haha. Lots and lots of trial and error. So I really dont want to go for 31. I guess I got it backed up though so I'll be alright if it doesn't.

[ Mysticus C*]

seems i also have the previous two errors but happly passes them this time (perhaps bc of the smbios?) it then hangs at:

 

dsmos: initilazing

dsmos: hook and decryption contexts set!

dsmos: starting...

 

 

huh? english please apple! anyone actually got this working on a 1530 and what are your settings on the post update?

Mysticus C* any ideas on settings based on specs posted above? its 800mhz fsb (i tihnk?) which is the same as macpro setting in smbios isnt it?

 

does anyone recognise that error?

thanks

 

 

it is not hanging anywhere, it is normal!

for gods sake read the guide...

 

|||| Install Prepare for Combo Update first -- and DO NOT RESTART YET||||

|||| Install Official 10.5.5 Combo Update next -- DO NOT RESTART YET||||

|||| and finally start the Post Combo Update Patch, and use CUSTOMIZE button to select options that are explained below , and RESTART ONLY AFTER YOU MADE THE CUSTOMIZATED INSTALL--- DO NOT PRESS NEXT NEXT NEXT, CHOOSE CUSTOMIZE AND MAKE APPROPRIATE SELECTIONS||||

Wait for second restart as usual from original update... and note that it will show DSMOS Starting... and this process will take some time (1-5 mins depending on your system performance, because system is copying some files that are not copied during update, and updating system caches... Be Patient until it finishes and restarts!

 

 

rich with it:

tell me your gfx cards, device and vendor ids, i will make a package and you need to download it addition to 3 things (pre patch, official update, post patch)

pre update

official updae

post update with below settings

(another package i will make for you to test for gfx before restarting)

 

 

kernel: 9.4.0

chipset: ichx if your mobo supports ahci

audio and network : restore

video: (this is trickky) officially gma950 is a built in driver, but i dont know if it will work, u need to tell me your device id first! i may make another patched driver for your gfx to work... so dont choose anything at this stage for your gfx card (but before you do anything, check system profiler, for gfx details, and tell me your device/vendor ids...)

sysem func: (you re on laptop?, choose smbios macbook, ps2 fix, acpi, and thats it...) should be fine apart from gfx, which i dont know will work or not, just tell me device vendor id, i ll make one package for teh gfx card...

[escalera]

I think I already know the answer to this, but I am running 10.5.2 Kalyway, with this install can I jump to 10.5.5 or should I get the Kalyway 10.5.3 first, then to 10.5.4? Only problem is before when I have went to 10.5.4 I no longer have wireless. Thanks for the help in advance.

 

The answer to your question is in the very first post of mysticus. Please read it thoroughly and read it well. It is very clear and explained in the most comprehensible manner the answer to your question.

 

To quote a portoion on Mysticus post :

 

"FOR CLEARING OUT SOME DOUBTS

Delta Update means, only a previous version can be updated (for example 10.5.4 delta update can only update 10.5.3)

Combo Update means, any previous version of the same family can be updated to whatever version of combo update is ( for example if you are using 10.5.5 combo update, it will udpate 10.5.x (x=0,1,2,3,4) all of them to 10.5.5"

[Neew]

Hello mystic , I'm inside my 10.5.5 update now after some coding.

 

I got a problem, I need the ps/2 package to get keyboards and trackpad to work

 

Do anyone know where I can get it?

[iamtheoneneo]

not much point in you shouting your mouth off - whether you created the guide or not!

do you not think iv followed your guide? to the tee? do you not think i havent waited about 15 mins for this thing to stop hanging?

answers: yes, yes, yes.

thanks

[Rich_Wit_It]

The answer to your question is in the very first post of mysticus. Please read it thoroughly and read it well. It is very clear and explained in the most comprehensible manner the answer to your question.

 

To quote a portoion on Mysticus post :

 

"FOR CLEARING OUT SOME DOUBTS

Delta Update means, only a previous version can be updated (for example 10.5.4 delta update can only update 10.5.3)

Combo Update means, any previous version of the same family can be updated to whatever version of combo update is ( for example if you are using 10.5.5 combo update, it will udpate 10.5.x (x=0,1,2,3,4) all of them to 10.5.5"

 

My fault, I guess I didn't see it. Thanks for the clarification though.

[ Mysticus C*]

Hello mystic , I'm inside my 10.5.5 update now after some coding.

 

I got a problem, I need the ps/2 package to get keyboards and trackpad to work

 

Do anyone know where I can get it?

 

 

have you tried the system func menu : ps2/ power meter fix at all?

 

or are you still being annoying?

[Gaiuh]

Mysticus.. do you have some advice for me ? post #1361

 

thanks

[Rich_Wit_It]

it is not hanging anywhere, it is normal!

for gods sake read the guide...

 

|||| Install Prepare for Combo Update first -- and DO NOT RESTART YET||||

|||| Install Official 10.5.5 Combo Update next -- DO NOT RESTART YET||||

|||| and finally start the Post Combo Update Patch, and use CUSTOMIZE button to select options that are explained below , and RESTART ONLY AFTER YOU MADE THE CUSTOMIZATED INSTALL--- DO NOT PRESS NEXT NEXT NEXT, CHOOSE CUSTOMIZE AND MAKE APPROPRIATE SELECTIONS||||

Wait for second restart as usual from original update... and note that it will show DSMOS Starting... and this process will take some time (1-5 mins depending on your system performance, because system is copying some files that are not copied during update, and updating system caches... Be Patient until it finishes and restarts!

 

 

rich with it:

tell me your gfx cards, device and vendor ids, i will make a package and you need to download it addition to 3 things (pre patch, official update, post patch)

pre update

official updae

post update with below settings

(another package i will make for you to test for gfx before restarting)

 

 

kernel: 9.4.0

chipset: ichx if your mobo supports ahci

audio and network : restore

video: (this is trickky) officially gma950 is a built in driver, but i dont know if it will work, u need to tell me your device id first! i may make another patched driver for your gfx to work... so dont choose anything at this stage for your gfx card (but before you do anything, check system profiler, for gfx details, and tell me your device/vendor ids...)

sysem func: (you re on laptop?, choose smbios macbook, ps2 fix, acpi, and thats it...) should be fine apart from gfx, which i dont know will work or not, just tell me device vendor id, i ll make one package for teh gfx card...

 

Chipset Model: GMA 950

Type: Display

Bus: Built-In

VRAM (Total): 64 MB of shared system memory

Vendor: Intel (0x8086)

Device ID: 0x27a2

Revision ID: 0x0003

 

Thanks a bunch sir

[Neew]

have you tried the system func menu : ps2/ power meter fix at all?

 

or are you still being annoying?

 

 

Hello Again. Man I wish you woulden't be mad at me because I'm not so good on this, I do my best!

 

I dont know what "the system funk menu : ps2/ power meter fix all" is?

 

can you tell me and I will try!

 

Regards

[ Mysticus C*]

gaiuh:

 

kernel: 9.4.0

chipset: dont bother, bcoz you have nforceata working... so nothing there

audio: network: restore

video : nvidia gfx fix (for nforce chipsets this is needed) dont know about nvinject or nvkush works on that (trial error needed)? also dont know if any driver has its device ids? if u can tell me i can check

system func: smbios mac pro? acpi selected

should be ok i guess?

 

rich with it: i ll make teh additional installer for testing, so be patient ok? and dont update until u get the package, also some gma requires paperclip trick if u dont know it?, if u r lucky u wont need it, but if your system gets stuck at blue screen before going to desktop, means, u ll need the paperclip trick... (i ll do it tomorrow most likely, now i m tired sorry...)

 

neew: you are killing me, how did you do the post patch? in post patch, there is an option named SYSTEM FUNC: in the options there is one option stating PS2 -power meter power management fixes! are you blind?

[Rich_Wit_It]

gaiuh:

 

kernel: 9.4.0

chipset: dont bother, bcoz you have nforceata working... so nothing there

audio: network: restore

video : nvidia gfx fix (for nforce chipsets this is needed) dont know about nvinject or nvkush works on that (trial error needed)? also dont know if any driver has its device ids? if u can tell me i can check

system func: smbios mac pro? acpi selected

should be ok i guess?

 

rich with it: i ll make teh additional installer for testing, so be patient ok? and dont update until u get the package, also some gma requires paperclip trick if u dont know it?, if u r lucky u wont need it, but if your system gets stuck at blue screen before going to desktop, means, u ll need the paperclip trick... (i ll do it tomorrow most likely, now i m tired sorry...)

 

neew: you are killing me, how did you do the post patch? in post patch, there is an option named SYSTEM FUNC: in the options there is one option stating PS2 -power meter power management fixes! are you blind?

 

I guess I will if I have to lol. Uhm I've seen the paperclip thing mentioned in other places but I'm not too familiar with it.

[Neew]

mysticus C..

 

can I run post install now, and make it work?

 

I got a link for the ps2 and that works now.. Now it's just the grafics card I need to work...

 

Do u have any suggestion of what I should choose? I guess I can run Postinstall pack again and choose te right thing there?