thefighter Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Well, I am desperate to get my OSX working, and I thought it might be a good idea to buy and fit a new hard drive, seeing as I have NF4 with a SATA hard drive, so it doesn't work. Do both PATA and IDE work with NF4? And which one is faster (alot slower than SATA?) as I do not fancy the idea of my computer being slow, I love it fast. Also, even if I did manage to get mac installed on another hard drive, would the LAN or Sound work? Considering its onboard? Because the internet and sound both work under vmware (Using Bridged for internet purposes under vmware) Thanks for your help TheFighter Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10389-new-hard-drive/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouch Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 PATA and IDE are the same thing. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10389-new-hard-drive/#findComment-64873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefighter Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 Learn something new everyday Whoopsie Anyways....How much slower is it? If its alot slower, I will just buy a cheap internal off ebay or something. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10389-new-hard-drive/#findComment-64940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbjonas Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 You sound confused. IDE drives are internal. If you have a decent PATA drive (parallel-ATAPI) perhaps running 7200rpm, with the latest IDE (Ultra-IDE or IDE-133) and it's on an 80pin IDE cable (not the older 40 pin) which supports that speed, then your fastest tranfer rate is 133MHz. SATA (Serial-ATAPI) runs at up to 150MHZ, unless it's the newer SATAII, which maxes out at 300MHz... So the answer is you will probably never notice the difference, unless you ran a benchmark, or you routinely deal with lots of large files (like intensive graphics, sound, or video editing for example). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10389-new-hard-drive/#findComment-64995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkW Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I have a similar question. I am considering getting a cheap Intel 915 setup. On OSX and i915, is there a speed improvement on SATA or would I be fine using an old IDE drive I have? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10389-new-hard-drive/#findComment-65197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbjonas Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 If your chipset can use SATA in OS X, I would do it. There is certainly a speed improvement. However, if the budget is a big issue, I wouldn't worry about too much- the improvement is not drastic. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10389-new-hard-drive/#findComment-65262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefighter Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 I will probrably find myself a old hard drive, and install it onto their. Only problem now is how to put it in :-S I've never opened a PC and inserted a new hard drive etc (only some ram sticks) but hard drives are alot more delicate. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10389-new-hard-drive/#findComment-65531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggman Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Here's how to install a hard drive: Decide whether you want it to be a Master or Slave (most modern-day motherboards can boot from both, so Slave would probably be somewhat easier). Look at the diagrams on top of the hard drive. One should be labeled Master and another Slave. Find a jumper (there may already be one in it) and place it in the 10-pin segment of the connectors so it matches the diagram. Find the IDE cable connecting your motherboard and your first hard drive. There should be a third connector on the cable somewhere. If you selected your new hard drive as Slave, connect this one. If you chose Master, reconfigure your old drive as Slave using the same steps and plug its old connector into your new one. Find a free power cable. It's the four-holed thing. Plug it into the appropriate socket on your hard drive. By the way, most modern hard drives aren't really that delicate. I've even used magnetic screwdrivers with mine! SATA doesn't really offer a very big increase in speed over IDE. IDE hard drives get a speed of up to 133 MB/sec, while SATA can get up to 150 MB/sec. Good luck! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/10389-new-hard-drive/#findComment-65541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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