seppa Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 OKi ! here you'll find a benchmark to download, look at firechild post. http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-compu...w-mac-pros.html You can also see attachement Result:[/b][/u] I can run 16 tracks no prob. with 17 tracks is stable but It might stop the first time. from the18th and so on it runs out of processing power that's with the latency set at 256 My setup: leo4allv3- vanilla9.2.2 mobo: badaxe2 cpu:Q6600(quad) Fsb:1066HZ Ram: 2GB 800MHZ DDR2 Audio: Rme Fireface 400 According to Firechild listing I run as well as a Macbook Pro: its a Core2duo and I have a quad. How many can you run? Post your result here with your rig so we can all compare Hackintosh Vs Mac. I hope many people will participate so we get interesting results. Happy benchmarking Ps: geekbench 64bit score: 5403 EvanLogicMultiCoreBenchmark.logic.zip Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
starobrno1 Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 I can run 19-21 traks depending on well I just don´t know it just varies from time to time but 19 tracks seems to bee totally stable. GA P35DS3R mobo Q6600 cpu 8 gig memory IDE 7300 rpm HD Exsys EX-6450 Pci -> FW (Ti chipset) Focusrite Saffire Pro 10 i/o Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-732010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jul_k Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 buffersize 256 I had to delete tracks until I was left with only 10 to get it working! unmuting caused at the 4th track the first stop, but I also could run all tracks for a while! deleting another 5 tracks makes my cpus not to get into red! toshiba laptop dual core 1.7 ghz fsb 522mhz 2 gb ram usb soundcard mbox2 HDD 5700 rpm Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-733372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
penarol Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Hi I can´t Download the Test Track, The link say Page not found. Thanks Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-733395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonk13 Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 It would also be interesting to see if you can increase the track count with a higher latency setting. Say 23ms (1024) as opposed to 6ms (256). Low latency isn't really necessary when mixing and a higher latency setting will not use as much CPU power. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-733640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jul_k Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 @penarol, the link is not functioning, but do a google search gearslutz_logic_benchmark or smth. @bonk13, yes a comparisson between 256 and 1024 would be cool! will do and edit my first post! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-733691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
seppa Posted May 3, 2008 Author Share Posted May 3, 2008 Nice to see some interest : ok, for those having trouble downloding it, see attached file. It would also be interesting to see if you can increase the track count with a higher latency setting. Say 23ms (1024) as opposed to 6ms (256). Low latency isn't really necessary when mixing and a higher latency setting will not use as much CPU power. Actually I tried at different latency but it seems to make litlle or no difference. 256 seem to be the optimal latency setting for my system... The Rme seems to get on really well with my rig. I can run 19-21 traks depending on well I just don´t know it just varies from time to time but 19 tracks seems to bee totally stable. Not bad ! We have similar specs.... still at least 2 extra track comparing to me. I wonder did you tweak anything on osx ? Regarding my original post:I did make sure all program were close to ensure no processing power was waisted. It did allow me to have an extra track during testing. EvanLogicMultiCoreBenchmark.logic.zip Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-733741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
starobrno1 Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 No I did no tweaks, maby 8 gigs for some reason makes a difference but I doubt it. First time I run this test (found it over on a Scandinavian Logic forum a couple of weeks ago) it run 21 tracks pretty stable, cores on red but still working. From then it´s been varying like I say above here, beats me why though? People with real macs such as G5s and Imacs could run somewhere round 12 - 17 tracks or so hehe. Some guys with real mac pros say the can double the track count though and even more (40- 60) depending on specs on their macs. There´s another guy there also (secretly like me) running a hack getting the same performance as I do.This is a pretty heavy test and compared to a real 2*4 core 2-3 ( or what ever) Ghz 24 (or more) Gig memory Mac Pro a quad core hacks performance is pretty outstanding thinking about how little you pay for it.I´ve run my Mac mini as a Logic node and I can add round 11 tracks to those 19-21 I get on my qaudcore hack. Funny though cause it seemed to be somewhat upside down cause for some reason I ended up having to run moast of the tracks on the Mini (Logic node). I don´t know maby I messed up in some way but I believe I ended up with 11 tracks remaining on the quad and 20 or so shipped over to be processed on the node! But in short words if you add nodes to your system it seems you can trust you get the same amount of tracks extra that they can handle themselves so this is really promising for sure.Oh I forgot to say it works best if you mute tracks by rightclicking on the tracks in the arrange and select mute unmute from the menu. Probably you can get a few more tracks if you also delete tracks in the arrange and channelstrips in the mixer that you can´t run anyway, I believe I read somewhere that this might take of some of the load from the cpu. It would also be interesting to see if you can increase the track count with a higher latency setting. Say 23ms (1024) as opposed to 6ms (256). Low latency isn't really necessary when mixing and a higher latency setting will not use as much CPU power.Seems there´s no difference between 256 - 1024 the guys over there tested that to. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-733876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
seppa Posted May 3, 2008 Author Share Posted May 3, 2008 I managed to run 22 tracks for a period longer than 2 minutes today(in the same conditions).... but since then its between 17-19 tracks.... By looking at the meters It looks as if the core manager did a constant good job my rig would handle 22 tracks every single time. It seems that it s the bad core usage balance that cause logic to stop.... not all cpu power is used. Maybe logic is not as efficient as ableton live at handling multicore. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-734010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
starobrno1 Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Probably that´s the case but still we´d be able to run some pretty heavy projects. I´m guessing when it comes to audio tracks with channelstrips on every track like the presets that comes with Logic and rewired to a bunch of synts in Reason and a few VST and /or softsynts loaded I don´t think I´ll ever hit the roof for my needs. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-734032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabriciom Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I got 16 tracks at 128 buffer. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-737218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
starobrno1 Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Man it´s so strange we get such a big difference between rigs that should get about the same trackcount. I don´t know maby it ´s still so that how much memory you have installed also counts in for some reason. It should´nt but what´s happening then, beats me? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-737397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khan_Man Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Hi, this probably isn't a valid test on my part as I'm using Logic Express 8 but.... I got 14 tracks on the P4 3.0 gig I got 35 tracks on the E6600 2.4 gig I didn't try it on the Opteron There is something funny with the tracks starting at 17. I deleted all the rest (18-74...) and copied and pasted the 17 to get the above numbers. Also when I was duplicating tracks Logic Express 8 complained that it didn't have the plugin "SpacesDsn" which probably explains my high numbers. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-737473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabriciom Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Hi, this probably isn't a valid test on my part as I'm using Logic Express 8 but.... I got 14 tracks on the P4 3.0 gig I got 35 tracks on the E6600 2.4 gig I didn't try it on the Opteron There is something funny with the tracks starting at 17. I deleted all the rest (18-74...) and copied and pasted the 17 to get the above numbers. Also when I was duplicating tracks Logic Express 8 complained that it didn't have the plugin "SpacesDsn" which probably explains my high numbers. Did the same, erased track 17 on and now I was able to run upto 18 tracks but after a while it just stops. I will try to install Uphucks new iAtkos 2.0 release which is specially made for Intel CoreDuo setups. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-737547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
starobrno1 Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Yeah I believe the combination of the other heavy plugins involved and Spacedesigner is an important part of this test. On my P4 3 Ghz running Logic Pro 8 I get 4 tracks in other words pretty ok for an old cpu like that. I also believe it´s important to realize that the track count for ordinary Wav/Audio tracks will be a completely different story. I don´t know about you guys but I can run over 20 tracks an a whole bunch of plugins in Logic Platinum 5.5.1 (legal version to) in PC mode on my P4. I´m expecting about the same when I run it in Mac mode and Logic Pro 8. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-737827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabriciom Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Yeah I believe the combination of the other heavy plugins involved and Spacedesigner is an important part of this test. On my P4 3 Ghz running Logic Pro 8 I get 4 tracks in other words pretty ok for an old cpu like that. I also believe it´s important to realize that the track count for ordinary Wav/Audio tracks will be a completely different story. I don´t know about you guys but I can run over 20 tracks an a whole bunch of plugins in Logic Platinum 5.5.1 (legal version to) in PC mode on my P4. I´m expecting about the same when I run it in Mac mode and Logic Pro 8. These tracks use the most CPU hungry plug-ins in Logic. What people do is create a couple of buses and share the plug-ins with different tracks. In other words you are not going to have 17 tracks using the convolution reverb. I think if anyone needs more plug-in power you can 1. create a logic node (as long as you only need plug-ins not instruments) 2. shell out the cash and get a real Mac Pro. I which I could do 2, but I've spent all my cash in other gear. I'm a bit busy and my testing has been slim. As soon as Im done with what Im working on (not OSX related) I'll get back with music. I have JP-8080 I have barely used. -Cheers Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-737996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
starobrno1 Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Yes I agree and hacks run good as nodes to but you´ll only get as many tracks out of them as they can run themselves, same with a real mac for that matter. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-738594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
section_14 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 When I first got this I did a few benchmark tests of my own with Logic. I loaded up 6 tracks with 4 space designers and 1 scuplture, played notes on each and let it run. It went to around 40% I believe on the CPU meter. Honestly though, I'm not feeling either one of those plugins(or just can't use 'em right). I just stick to good old platinumverb and averb. The ES2 still owns along with the all the other synths for that matter(ES1, ESP etc). I think the multimeter is my favorite new plugin. Go Logic! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-743964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spol Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I could play 11 tracks with the G5 in my sig. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-748125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabriciom Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 OK I just updated to iAtkos 2.0 and my system is running better than ever. I even got 167 in Xbench which previously i would get at most 162. Will test Logic later. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-748682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikk Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 with edirol fw card 22 tracks on 1024 buffer 21 tracks on 256 buffer with asus onboard card: 30 tracks on 256 buffer Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-749976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach-os Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 27 tracks with 128 or 256 buffer (doesn´t matter) with saffire 26 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-756572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
penarol Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Hi 27 Tracks before overload warning Check My signature for the specs Cheers Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-765829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
starobrno1 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 27 tracks hey that´s good is it cause you´re running leo 10.5.3? I´m still running Kalys 10.5.1. I have the same q6600 cpu and 8 gig memory but I get 19 - 20 tracks. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-765861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach-os Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 27 tracks hey that´s good is it cause you´re running leo 10.5.3? I´m still running Kalys 10.5.1. I have the same q6600 cpu and 8 gig memory but I get 19 - 20 tracks. only 10.5.2 with logic 8.02 will try with 10.5.3 next week Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/102713-logic-8-benchmark/#findComment-765878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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